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  • billdeg@degnanco.com
    ... Hey that s me in some of them!
    Message 1 of 17 , Dec 31, 2007
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      > I was looking at the TCF web site and noticed that when the page is
      > refreshed, a number of the photos on the top of the page
      > appear to be from the MARCH exhibit two years ago. There are several
      > pictures of ADM3s, Commodores, and an overhead view
      > of the PDP8:
      >
      > http://www.tcf-nj.org/web/
      >
      > Bob
      >

      Hey that's me in some of them!
    • Evan Koblentz
      It s kind of funny ... Bill plays in bands and recorded a CD, but he had to join MARCH to be famous! :) ... From: billdeg@degnanco.com
      Message 2 of 17 , Dec 31, 2007
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        It's kind of funny ... Bill plays in bands and recorded a CD, but he had to
        join MARCH to be famous! :)


        -----Original Message-----
        From: billdeg@... [mailto:billdeg@...]
        Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:19 PM
        To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] TCF


        > I was looking at the TCF web site and noticed that when the page is
        > refreshed, a number of the photos on the top of the page appear to be
        > from the MARCH exhibit two years ago. There are several pictures of
        > ADM3s, Commodores, and an overhead view of the PDP8:
        >
        > http://www.tcf-nj.org/web/
        >
        > Bob
        >

        Hey that's me in some of them!




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      • Jim Scheef
        There is a third picture from above showing more of the room. Keep refreshing the page to see them all. Jim ... From: billdeg@degnanco.com
        Message 3 of 17 , Dec 31, 2007
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          There is a third picture from above showing more of the room. Keep refreshing the page to see them all.

          Jim

          ----- Original Message ----
          From: "billdeg@..." <billdeg@...>
          To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:19:27 PM
          Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] TCF

          > I was looking at the TCF web site and noticed that when the page is
          > refreshed, a number of the photos on the top of the page
          > appear to be from the MARCH exhibit two years ago.  There are several
          > pictures of ADM3s, Commodores, and an overhead view
          > of the PDP8:
          >
            http://www.tcf-nj.org/web/
          >
          > Bob
          >

          Hey that's me in some of them!




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        • Bill Degnan
          We were talking about doing a more formal presentation this year, as a group. Also having an exhibit room like 2005. You are correct that we should decide
          Message 4 of 17 , Feb 1, 2010
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            We were talking about doing a more formal presentation this year, as a
            group. Also having an exhibit room like 2005. You are correct that we
            should decide what to do. I did not go last year either.
            Bill

            -------- Original Message --------
            > From: "Christian Liendo" <christian_liendo@...>
            > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 2:10 PM
            > To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: [midatlanticretro] TCF
            >
            > It's Feb and that means TCF http://www.tcf-nj.org is coming in a few
            months and I didn't go last year and from what I was told, thats OK.
            >
            > Is there any reason to go this year?
            > Is anyone going this year?
            >
            > I am more looking forward to Spring March party than TCF, but might as
            well get it out there.
          • Christian Liendo
            Given what Bill stated, then yea we should at least go to support the group. Thanks for the reminder.
            Message 5 of 17 , Feb 1, 2010
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              Given what Bill stated, then yea we should at least go to support the group.

              Thanks for the reminder.

            • Evan Koblentz
              ... Bill has it part right, part wrong. We re only planning to do a simple table at Trenton on the first day, just like last year. Reason: that show is
              Message 6 of 17 , Feb 1, 2010
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                > We were talking about doing a more formal presentation this year, as a group. Also having an exhibit room like 2005. You are correct that we should decide what to do. I did not go last year either.
                > Bill

                Bill has it part right, part wrong.

                We're only planning to do a simple table at Trenton on the first day,
                just like last year. Reason: that show is shrinking every year, and
                Sunday is always totally dead.

                Bill and/or I may also do a presentation on the history of computing in
                the local area, probably in addition to my usual talk on "Vintage
                Computing for Newbs."

                What Bill was thinking of re: doing a bigger thing is re: Maker Faire
                NYC. Unfortunately the people at Make chose the same weekend we were
                targeting for VCF East 7.0. So we have to decide what to do.

                One option, which I favor if we can make it work, is to delay VCF East
                7.0 until spring 2011. That would allow MARCH to do bigger showings at
                Trenton, HOPE, and Maker Faire, while also giving us time to do more
                tech weekends, work on the museum, etc. .... skipping a half-year
                wouldn't be a big deal, as all editions of VCF have skipped years in the
                past, with no adverse impact. Another reason to do this is to give
                InfoAge more time to get H-building space ready for an event like ours
                -- we can't grow the current VCF any if we're confined to currently
                available space. If our attendance grows any more than on Day 1 of last
                year's VCF, then we'd have a real problem.

                The downside of delay VCF East 7.0 by a few months is very simple:
                money. We could squeeze in the event a week or two before our 2011-2012
                insurance bill is due, so our largest expense wouldn't be a problem,
                BUT, we'd have to stretch our existing operations budget, and that could
                get scary.

                It's impossible to have VCF East in any other September weekends this
                year -- because of Labor Day, 9/11, and Rosh Hoshanah. We don't want to
                have the event in summertime, because of excessive heat, tourist hotel
                prices / traffic, etc. -- nor can we have the event in October because
                InfoAge is planning to expand its Halloween event to all weekends that
                month, which would mean our attendees have no place to park and a
                million other logistical details.

                November, etc. are not options because of the risk of bad weather and
                being too close time-wise to VCF West.

                So, if MARCH wants to have a big showing at Maker Faire NYC (I already
                spoke with them and they're stoked about the idea -- they're willing to
                give us a big space for free!), then we'll probably have to delay VCF
                East 7.0 to next spring.

                Which, as I said, is totally cool * IF * our money can stretch far enough.
              • Christian Liendo
                Thats not a bad idea.. Mainly because I think Maker Faire is going to be huge and it s a nice target audience. The question is, what do you predict the
                Message 7 of 17 , Feb 2, 2010
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                  Thats not a bad idea..

                  Mainly because I think Maker Faire is going to be huge and it's a nice target audience.

                  The question is, what do you predict the shortfall will be and how can we make it up?



                  --- On Mon, 2/1/10, Evan Koblentz <evan@...> wrote:

                  From: Evan Koblentz <evan@...>
                  Subject: [midatlanticretro] Important: TCF / VCF / etc. this year
                  To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 6:29 PM

                   


                  > We were talking about doing a more formal presentation this year, as a group. Also having an exhibit room like 2005. You are correct that we should decide what to do. I did not go last year either.
                  > Bill

                  Bill has it part right, part wrong.

                  We're only planning to do a simple table at Trenton on the first day,
                  just like last year. Reason: that show is shrinking every year, and
                  Sunday is always totally dead.

                  Bill and/or I may also do a presentation on the history of computing in
                  the local area, probably in addition to my usual talk on "Vintage
                  Computing for Newbs."

                  What Bill was thinking of re: doing a bigger thing is re: Maker Faire
                  NYC. Unfortunately the people at Make chose the same weekend we were
                  targeting for VCF East 7.0. So we have to decide what to do.

                  One option, which I favor if we can make it work, is to delay VCF East
                  7.0 until spring 2011. That would allow MARCH to do bigger showings at
                  Trenton, HOPE, and Maker Faire, while also giving us time to do more
                  tech weekends, work on the museum, etc. .... skipping a half-year
                  wouldn't be a big deal, as all editions of VCF have skipped years in the
                  past, with no adverse impact. Another reason to do this is to give
                  InfoAge more time to get H-building space ready for an event like ours
                  -- we can't grow the current VCF any if we're confined to currently
                  available space. If our attendance grows any more than on Day 1 of last
                  year's VCF, then we'd have a real problem.

                  The downside of delay VCF East 7.0 by a few months is very simple:
                  money. We could squeeze in the event a week or two before our 2011-2012
                  insurance bill is due, so our largest expense wouldn't be a problem,
                  BUT, we'd have to stretch our existing operations budget, and that could
                  get scary.

                  It's impossible to have VCF East in any other September weekends this
                  year -- because of Labor Day, 9/11, and Rosh Hoshanah. We don't want to
                  have the event in summertime, because of excessive heat, tourist hotel
                  prices / traffic, etc. -- nor can we have the event in October because
                  InfoAge is planning to expand its Halloween event to all weekends that
                  month, which would mean our attendees have no place to park and a
                  million other logistical details.

                  November, etc. are not options because of the risk of bad weather and
                  being too close time-wise to VCF West.

                  So, if MARCH wants to have a big showing at Maker Faire NYC (I already
                  spoke with them and they're stoked about the idea -- they're willing to
                  give us a big space for free!), then we'll probably have to delay VCF
                  East 7.0 to next spring.

                  Which, as I said, is totally cool * IF * our money can stretch far enough.


                • B Degnan
                  This discussion is active in the MARCH BOD Yahoo Group at the moment. We ll work it out. I don t think money is going to be an issue the way I see it. Bill
                  Message 8 of 17 , Feb 2, 2010
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                    This discussion is active in the MARCH BOD Yahoo Group at the moment.  We'll work it out.  I don't think money is going to be an issue the way I see it. 

                    Bill

                    Christian Liendo wrote:
                    Thats not a bad idea..

                    Mainly because I think Maker Faire is going to be huge and it's a nice target audience.

                    The question is, what do you predict the shortfall will be and how can we make it up?


                  • Dan Roganti
                    In general, you might want to think about small ways to raise funds during any event--even for the visitors at the museum. I think I mentioned this a while
                    Message 9 of 17 , Feb 2, 2010
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                      In general, you might want to think about small ways to raise funds during any event--even for the visitors at the museum.
                      I think I mentioned this a while back - a little cash flow coming in never hurts.
                      Something as simple as buttons, mousepads, posters, etc, or even T-shirts.
                      And with a generic logo/design and/or caption to portray the March Computer Museum to the public.
                      The wholesale prices are very cheap for buttons, etc - you saw how cheap the T-shirts are wholesale.
                      I know the T-shirts designs I made for VCF wouldn't fit on a button :)
                      But I'd be glad to help whip up something which could go any of these small items.

                      =Dan
                      --
                      http://www.vintagecomputer.net/ragooman/

                      ----- B Degnan wrote:

                      > This discussion is active in the MARCH BOD Yahoo Group at the moment. 
                      > We'll work it out.  I don't think money is going to be an issue the way
                      > I see it. 
                      > Bill

                      >
                      > Christian Liendo wrote:
                      >


                      Thats not a bad idea..

                      >

                      > Mainly because I think Maker Faire is going to be huge and it's a nice
                      > target audience.

                      >

                      > The question is, what do you predict the shortfall will be and how can
                      > we make it up?


                    • Evan Koblentz
                      ... Yes, have some! It s still my plan to make kick-ass posters (instead of our current dull ones) and sell copies to whoever wants them. But that plan will
                      Message 10 of 17 , Feb 2, 2010
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                        In general, you might want to think about small ways to raise funds during any event--even for the visitors at the museum.
                        I think I mentioned this a while back - a little cash flow coming in never hurts.

                        "Yes, have some!"

                        It's still my plan to make kick-ass posters (instead of our current dull ones) and sell copies to whoever wants them.  But that plan will take * time * which I don't have right now.  So instead, I'll make just one poster that emphasizes a few of our museum highlights, and branch out later from there.

                        Dan: we'll talk offline -- you did such a good job on the t-shirt designs that I'd be a fool not to enlist your help for the poster too.  But don't start designing anything until we talk and bounce ideas off each other.
                      • Dan Roganti
                        ... ok, no problemo =Dan -- http://www.vintagecomputer.net/ragooman/
                        Message 11 of 17 , Feb 2, 2010
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                          ----- Evan Koblentz wrote:


                          > Dan: we'll talk offline -- you did such a good job on the t-shirt
                          > designs that I'd be a fool not to enlist your help for the poster too. 
                          > But don't start designing anything until we talk and bounce ideas off
                          > each other.

                          ok, no problemo

                          =Dan
                          --
                          http://www.vintagecomputer.net/ragooman/
                        • evan@snarc.net
                          Fun times @ TCF yesterday. Our table was in the resort-like lobby of a classroom building where TCF held its lectures, so we had decent traffic most of the
                          Message 12 of 17 , Apr 25 10:06 AM
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                            Fun times @ TCF yesterday. Our table was in the resort-like lobby of a classroom building where TCF held its lectures, so we had decent traffic most of the day. Traffic was dead during the RMS keynote but a professional theremin player entertained us.

                            My lecture, and the other which Bill Deg. and I shared, both went well.

                            Spotted throughout the day were: me, Bill Deg., Andy, Jeff F., Chris, Brian, Barry, Bill Drom., Bob A., Herb, and many "friends-of-MARCH" from other clubs and from the local tech/history scene in general. (Sorry if I forgot anyone.) Unfortunately Sridhar couldn't make it.

                            Bill Deg, Andy, and I had dinner at the ribs place.

                            Funny story: while waiting for my lecture room, I was talking to some co-ed who was also waiting. She said she's a junior at the college and got into computers from her dad, who's "around your age" - 50.

                            I'm 35.
                          • Jeffrey Frady
                            Why don t I have her number???? ... -- See you space cowboy...
                            Message 13 of 17 , Apr 25 10:08 AM
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                              Why don't I have her number????

                              On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 1:06 PM, <evan@...> wrote:
                               

                              Fun times @ TCF yesterday. Our table was in the resort-like lobby of a classroom building where TCF held its lectures, so we had decent traffic most of the day. Traffic was dead during the RMS keynote but a professional theremin player entertained us.

                              My lecture, and the other which Bill Deg. and I shared, both went well.

                              Spotted throughout the day were: me, Bill Deg., Andy, Jeff F., Chris, Brian, Barry, Bill Drom., Bob A., Herb, and many "friends-of-MARCH" from other clubs and from the local tech/history scene in general. (Sorry if I forgot anyone.) Unfortunately Sridhar couldn't make it.

                              Bill Deg, Andy, and I had dinner at the ribs place.

                              Funny story: while waiting for my lecture room, I was talking to some co-ed who was also waiting. She said she's a junior at the college and got into computers from her dad, who's "around your age" - 50.

                              I'm 35.




                              --
                              See you space cowboy...
                            • Bob Applegate
                              ... Ouch! It was nice seeing everyone again! I met up with another old Franklin guy and told him to go talk with you guys; not sure if Frank made his way over
                              Message 14 of 17 , Apr 25 2:39 PM
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                                On Apr 25, 2010, at 1:06 PM, evan@... wrote:

                                 

                                Fun times @ TCF yesterday. Our table was in the resort-like lobby of a classroom building where TCF held its lectures, so we had decent traffic most of the day. Traffic was dead during the RMS keynote but a professional theremin player entertained us.

                                My lecture, and the other which Bill Deg. and I shared, both went well.

                                Spotted throughout the day were: me, Bill Deg., Andy, Jeff F., Chris, Brian, Barry, Bill Drom., Bob A., Herb, and many "friends-of- MARCH" from other clubs and from the local tech/history scene in general. (Sorry if I forgot anyone.) Unfortunately Sridhar couldn't make it.

                                Bill Deg, Andy, and I had dinner at the ribs place.

                                Funny story: while waiting for my lecture room, I was talking to some co-ed who was also waiting. She said she's a junior at the college and got into computers from her dad, who's "around your age" - 50.

                                I'm 35.


                                Ouch!

                                It was nice seeing everyone again!

                                I met up with another old Franklin guy and told him to go talk with you guys; not sure if Frank made his way over or not.  He was one of the hardware guys who is really into restoring older systems and might be very interested in working on some of the non-functioning stuff.

                                Bob

                              • Jeffrey Brace
                                Sounds great. Sorry I missed it ! About your funny story: Butthead would say, huhuhuh, you re old . ... From: evan@snarc.net To: MARCH
                                Message 15 of 17 , Apr 25 5:59 PM
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                                  Sounds great. Sorry I missed it !
                                   
                                  About your funny story: Butthead would say, "huhuhuh, you're old".
                                   
                                  ----- Original Message -----
                                  From: evan@...
                                  Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 12:06 PM
                                  Subject: [midatlanticretro] TCF

                                   

                                  Fun times @ TCF yesterday. Our table was in the resort-like lobby of a classroom building where TCF held its lectures, so we had decent traffic most of the day. Traffic was dead during the RMS keynote but a professional theremin player entertained us.

                                  My lecture, and the other which Bill Deg. and I shared, both went well.

                                  Spotted throughout the day were: me, Bill Deg., Andy, Jeff F., Chris, Brian, Barry, Bill Drom., Bob A., Herb, and many "friends-of- MARCH" from other clubs and from the local tech/history scene in general. (Sorry if I forgot anyone.) Unfortunately Sridhar couldn't make it.

                                  Bill Deg, Andy, and I had dinner at the ribs place.

                                  Funny story: while waiting for my lecture room, I was talking to some co-ed who was also waiting. She said she's a junior at the college and got into computers from her dad, who's "around your age" - 50.

                                  I'm 35.

                                • ysgdhio
                                  ... Yes, nice to see everyone. Thanks for stopping by our table. Seems we were lucky to be in the Social Sciences building. Some friends were working a table
                                  Message 16 of 17 , Apr 26 2:26 PM
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                                    --- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, Bob Applegate <bob@...> wrote:
                                    > It was nice seeing everyone again!

                                    Yes, nice to see everyone.
                                    Thanks for stopping by our table.

                                    Seems we were lucky to be in the Social Sciences building.
                                    Some friends were working a table in the Student Center and they said
                                    that it got pretty hot and uncomfortable over there on Saturday.

                                    That said, we had a good amount of traffic and interest.
                                    And as usual, quite a number of characters, who will be added to our lore. :)

                                    Andy
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