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  • Evan Koblentz
    Hi MARCHins. Remember a couple of months ago I sorted through a large rescue collection down in south Jersey, via the VC Forum? The owner is bringing it all to
    Message 1 of 17 , Jul 26 1:01 PM
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      Hi MARCHins. Remember a couple of months ago I sorted through a large
      rescue collection down in south Jersey, via the VC Forum? The owner is
      bringing it all to our workshop and everything's up for grabs. She needs
      the money, so please don't lowball her. (Nor should anyone make offers
      here on the list. "Be there," or be square...)

      Following is the list of what's available. There may be a few
      inaccuracies. Standard disclaimers: nothing's been tested; nothing's
      going to be shipped; only one of each unless stated otherwise.

      Amstrad PPC640


      Apple II+ (x2)
      Apple IIc (several...)
      Apple IIe (x4)
      Apple IIgs (x4)
      Apple Lisa II (possibly XL; not sure)
      Mac Classic
      Mac SE
      Mac 512
      Mac Plus 1MB
      Mac IIcx
      Mac IIci (x4)
      Mac II
      Mac II Plus
      Mac Powerbook 170
      Mac LC
      Mac LC3
      Mac Quadra 605
      Mac Quadra 950
      Mac Quadra 800
      Mac Quadra 700
      Mac Quadra 800
      Mac Quadra 700
      Mac Portable
      Disk II (x4)
      misc. Apple kb+drives


      AT&T Unix PC


      C-64
      VIC-20 (x2)


      Compaq 286
      Compaq 386 in nice case
      Compaq Portable 3
      Compaq SLT 286
      Compaq portable 286
      Compaq portable 386
      Compaq portable 486C (x2)


      DEC Rainbow
      DEC Rainbow 100


      Epson HX-20


      Franklin ACE 500 (x2)
      Franklin ACE 1000
      Franklin ACE 1200
      Franklin ACE 2100


      box of Model M keyboards
      IBM 5155
      IBM 5140 (x3) -- one has a nice case
      IBM Power Station 340
      IBM Power Server 32xx
      IBM 8573/121 portable with case (x2)


      Osborne


      "random box of laptops"


      TRS-80 Model 1
      Tandy 4D
      Tandy 4P
      Tandy CoCo 3
      Tandy Model 2
      Tandy 8MB HD (x2)
      Tandy 6000HD (x2)
      Tandy 12
      Tandy CoCo
      Tandy Model 100
      Tandy Model 3
      Tandy CoCo2 (boxed) (x2)


      Kaypro II (x2)
      Kaypro 4
      Kaypro 2000


      Spark Server 1000
      Spark storage array
      Spark Voyager


      TI Professional Computer
      TI Silent 700


      Toshiba T1600
      Toshiba 3200 SCX
      Toshiba 4700CS


      Zorba luggable
    • Kelly D. Leavitt
      ... I will warn you that if the 8meg external drives have been moved much without the spindle lock in place they are probably non functioning. Then again, they
      Message 2 of 17 , Jul 26 1:22 PM
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        > Tandy 8MB HD (x2)

        I will warn you that if the 8meg external drives have been moved much without the spindle lock in place they are probably non functioning.

        Then again, they are 30+ year old Shugart SA1004 drives. They're probably already dead without being moved.

        Kelly
      • joshbensadon
        ... I wish I could be there.. just too far for me to travel. I would like that Silent 700
        Message 3 of 17 , Jul 26 1:26 PM
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          --- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, Evan Koblentz <evan@...> wrote:
          > the money, so please don't lowball her. (Nor should anyone make offers
          > here on the list. "Be there," or be square...)
          >

          I wish I could be there.. just too far for me to travel.

          I would like that Silent 700

          :)
        • B. Degnan
          Evan, Is there a way that we can submit bids in advance, privately, to try to establish some order to the process? Bill ... workshop
          Message 4 of 17 , Jul 26 2:10 PM
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            Evan,
            Is there a way that we can submit "bids" in advance, privately, to try to
            establish some order to the process?
            Bill

            -------- Original Message --------
            > From: "Evan Koblentz" <evan@...>
            > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:30 PM
            > To: "midatlanticretro" <midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com>
            > Subject: [midatlanticretro] Huge lot(s) of stuff for sale @ Aug. 3-4
            workshop
            >
            > Hi MARCHins. Remember a couple of months ago I sorted through a large
            > rescue collection down in south Jersey, via the VC Forum? The owner is
            > bringing it all to our workshop and everything's up for grabs. She needs

            > the money, so please don't lowball her. (Nor should anyone make offers
            > here on the list. "Be there," or be square...)
            >
            > Following is the list of what's available. There may be a few
            > inaccuracies. Standard disclaimers: nothing's been tested; nothing's
            > going to be shipped; only one of each unless stated otherwise.
            >
            > Amstrad PPC640
            >
            >
            > Apple II+ (x2)
            > Apple IIc (several...)
            > Apple IIe (x4)
            > Apple IIgs (x4)
            > Apple Lisa II (possibly XL; not sure)
            > Mac Classic
            > Mac SE
            > Mac 512
            > Mac Plus 1MB
            > Mac IIcx
            > Mac IIci (x4)
            > Mac II
            > Mac II Plus
            > Mac Powerbook 170
            > Mac LC
            > Mac LC3
            > Mac Quadra 605
            > Mac Quadra 950
            > Mac Quadra 800
            > Mac Quadra 700
            > Mac Quadra 800
            > Mac Quadra 700
            > Mac Portable
            > Disk II (x4)
            > misc. Apple kb+drives
            >
            >
            > AT&T Unix PC
            >
            >
            > C-64
            > VIC-20 (x2)
            >
            >
            > Compaq 286
            > Compaq 386 in nice case
            > Compaq Portable 3
            > Compaq SLT 286
            > Compaq portable 286
            > Compaq portable 386
            > Compaq portable 486C (x2)
            >
            >
            > DEC Rainbow
            > DEC Rainbow 100
            >
            >
            > Epson HX-20
            >
            >
            > Franklin ACE 500 (x2)
            > Franklin ACE 1000
            > Franklin ACE 1200
            > Franklin ACE 2100
            >
            >
            > box of Model M keyboards
            > IBM 5155
            > IBM 5140 (x3) -- one has a nice case
            > IBM Power Station 340
            > IBM Power Server 32xx
            > IBM 8573/121 portable with case (x2)
            >
            >
            > Osborne
            >
            >
            > "random box of laptops"
            >
            >
            > TRS-80 Model 1
            > Tandy 4D
            > Tandy 4P
            > Tandy CoCo 3
            > Tandy Model 2
            > Tandy 8MB HD (x2)
            > Tandy 6000HD (x2)
            > Tandy 12
            > Tandy CoCo
            > Tandy Model 100
            > Tandy Model 3
            > Tandy CoCo2 (boxed) (x2)
            >
            >
            > Kaypro II (x2)
            > Kaypro 4
            > Kaypro 2000
            >
            >
            > Spark Server 1000
            > Spark storage array
            > Spark Voyager
            >
            >
            > TI Professional Computer
            > TI Silent 700
            >
            >
            > Toshiba T1600
            > Toshiba 3200 SCX
            > Toshiba 4700CS
            >
            >
            > Zorba luggable
            >
            >
            > ------------------------------------
            >
            > Yahoo! Groups Links
            >
            >
            >
          • Evan Koblentz
            ... Order for everyone else -- more work for me. :(
            Message 5 of 17 , Jul 26 3:14 PM
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              >> Is there a way that we can submit "bids" in advance, privately, to try to establish some order to the process?

              Order for everyone else -- more work for me. :(
            • B Degnan
              ... Sorry I mean directly with seller. Bill -- Sent from my PDP 8/e.
              Message 6 of 17 , Jul 26 3:51 PM
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                Evan Koblentz <evan@...> wrote:
                >>> Is there a way that we can submit "bids" in advance, privately, to
                >try to establish some order to the process?
                >
                >Order for everyone else -- more work for me. :(
                >
                >
                >
                >------------------------------------
                >
                >Yahoo! Groups Links
                >
                >
                >
                Sorry I mean directly with seller.
                Bill
                --
                Sent from my PDP 8/e.
              • Evan Koblentz
                ... No. Seller has zero-to-little knowledge about this stuff. It was all her husband s. She is entrusting us to sell it on her behalf for fair prices. In
                Message 7 of 17 , Jul 26 4:15 PM
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                  >> Sorry I mean directly with seller.

                  No. Seller has zero-to-little knowledge about this stuff. It was all her husband's. She is entrusting us to sell it on her behalf for fair prices. In exchange, we (the club) gets whatever it wants from this collection.
                • m
                  ... Could an open silent bidding process take place utilizing the yahoo groups database feature to record possible bids/interest before the actual event?
                  Message 8 of 17 , Jul 26 5:06 PM
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                    --- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, "Evan Koblentz" <evan@...> wrote:
                    > >> Is there a way that we can submit "bids" in advance, privately, to try to establish some order to the process?
                    > Order for everyone else -- more work for me. :(

                    Could an open silent bidding process take place utilizing the yahoo groups database feature to record possible bids/interest before the actual event?

                    Someone could start a table and then people can put down their bids including each item, who is making the bid, what they are willing to pay, and if necessary if they would need to make other arrangements (pickup at another time, etc.)

                    This way little to no extra work, participation by whomever wishes to participate prior to the event, and the ability for people who are unable to get there to note their potential interest/high offers so she can get the best she can for these items, and most if not all of it sold.

                    --
                    MS
                  • Evan Koblentz
                    ... No, we re doing this the old-fashioned way. One reason is because we are unable to store things that do not sell, and the seller isn t interested in
                    Message 9 of 17 , Jul 26 5:23 PM
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                      >> This way little to no extra work

                      No, we're doing this the old-fashioned way. One reason is because we are unable to store things that do not sell, and the seller isn't interested in shipping many things individually.

                      There's a chance (I don't know how much of a chance) that whatever does not sell may be offered by the seller again at our next event, whatever/whenever that is.
                    • s100doctor
                      ... I just can t get over, what Evan is proposing here; on top of what s already poorly planned for next weekend. I ve spent literally a few hours on a
                      Message 10 of 17 , Jul 26 8:52 PM
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                        --- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, "Evan Koblentz" <evan@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > >> This way little to no extra work
                        >
                        > No, we're doing this the old-fashioned way. One reason is because we are unable to store things that do not sell, and the seller isn't interested in shipping many things individually.
                        >
                        > There's a chance (I don't know how much of a chance) that whatever does not sell may be offered by the seller again at our next event, whatever/whenever that is.
                        >

                        I just can't get over, what Evan is proposing here; on top of what's already poorly planned for next weekend. I've spent literally a few hours on a response. First, I thought "I'll post what would be some good plans". So that selling three-four dozen computers, doesn't compete with trying to FIX a few OTHER computers! Then I decided "why am I doing Evan's work for him? And why am I being a grumpy old man because of Evan's lack of planning?".

                        Then I thought "at least I'll call out what a clown-car event this is going to be". But for most of us, no explanation is needed. For some including Evan - it just won't be a problem for them, they and Evan will simply ignore the issues or work around them.

                        But I think I have to say something. Because I find I get tired of Evan's lack of planning, and his getting very proud of what other people do for him. When that gets to a certain point, I simply "blow a fuse" and just back off from MARCH. What other people choose to do, is their business, really. It's poor form for me to post trash-talk in MARCH's email list, however appropriate and considered it may be.

                        So - Evan, I don't have time and energy for your repair event next week, not the circus it seems to be becoming. I decided not to explain that out, it's a long post that tries to do your planning for you. I've decided that's futile and you'd just take it poorly, however well deserved it may be. Making you look bad is counter productive, and it does not make me look good doing so.

                        So I'll plan to be at the MARCH event next weekend, so I can complete some transactions with people I've already planned to do. If I can deal with whatever circus Evan has, I'll stick around and help others. If not, I won't. What other people do is entirely up to them. But I'm frankly an old man of sixty and have limited time and energy and willingness to risk them unnecessarily. Other people can make other choices, and more power to them if they can help each other and that poor woman, who is simply trying to get something out of her husband's legacy.

                        Herb Johnson
                        with my regrets
                      • Evan Koblentz
                        ... Last time, we sold a large amount of MARCH equipment, and in no way (or at least not in any ways that anyone told me about) did it interfere with the
                        Message 11 of 17 , Jul 26 9:15 PM
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                          >> what a clown-car event this is going to be

                          Last time, we sold a large amount of MARCH equipment, and in no way (or at least not in any ways that anyone told me about) did it interfere with the repair work.

                          This time, instead, we're going to sell a large amount of someone else's equipment -- because it's helping someone who really needs the help (and who helped the club); it's getting a bunch of good deals for our members/supporters; and it's preventing stuff from being scrapped.

                          So we are simply replacing our stuff for-sale with someone else's. Granted, space might be a little bit tight. No biggie.

                          >> Because I find I get tired of Evan's... getting very proud of what other people do for him.

                          I don't know what that means. Are you saying I take credit for what others do, or that I don't do enough personally?
                        • corey986
                          Well it depends on which silent 700. The modem ones seem pretty common. The older rs232/current loop ones seem hard to find. Cheers, Corey
                          Message 12 of 17 , Jul 27 5:00 AM
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                            Well it depends on which silent 700. The modem ones seem pretty common. The older rs232/current loop ones seem hard to find.

                            Cheers,
                            Corey

                            --- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, joshbensadon <no_reply@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > --- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, Evan Koblentz <evan@> wrote:
                            > > the money, so please don't lowball her. (Nor should anyone make offers
                            > > here on the list. "Be there," or be square...)
                            > >
                            >
                            > I wish I could be there.. just too far for me to travel.
                            >
                            > I would like that Silent 700
                            >
                            > :)
                            >
                          • Jeffrey Brace
                            From: s100doctor Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:52 PM ... Herb, I understand your pain. My personality leads to being organized and planning. Evan s is more
                            Message 13 of 17 , Jul 27 9:59 PM
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                              From: s100doctor
                              Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:52 PM

                              >I just can't get over, what Evan is proposing here;
                              >Then I thought "at least I'll call out what a clown-car event this is going
                              >to be".
                              >Because I find I get tired of Evan's lack of planning, and his getting very
                              >proud of what other people do for him.
                              >So - Evan, I don't have time and energy for your repair event next week,
                              >not the circus it seems to be becoming.
                              >So I'll plan to be at the MARCH event next weekend, so I can complete some
                              >transactions with people I've already planned to do.
                              >Herb Johnson
                              >with my regrets

                              Herb,

                              I understand your pain. My personality leads to being organized and
                              planning. Evan's is more action oriented; getting things done. Both have
                              their good and bad points. Evan will drive me crazy with his way of doing
                              things, but in the end everything works out well. He has been quite
                              successful in many VCF. He has been quiet successful in creating a decently
                              presentable museum. He has been quite successful in managing donations and
                              the warehouse. There are many times when I wanted to ring his neck, but
                              being overly emotional has never been good. So I get over it and talk to him
                              and everything is worked out. Evan is smart enough not to rely solely on his
                              own ideas for things and to ask others what they think. This is smart.
                              Especially since different personalities offer different (and sometimes
                              better) perspectives. I expect that this event will have it's challenges,
                              but nothing so bad. And as with everyone, he makes mistakes. In the end
                              everything will be alright. I would say that you should keep offering
                              suggestions, whether he follows them or not. And I'm very happy that you
                              will be at the workshop and very sorry to hear your frustration.

                              Jeff Brace
                            • Evan Koblentz
                              ... I ll try to see the positive in those remarks! :) For the VCF, everyone knows that I spend six months or more, planning the snot out of every detail. But
                              Message 14 of 17 , Jul 27 10:10 PM
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                                >> There are many times when I wanted to ring his neck ... but in the end everything works out well.

                                I'll try to see the positive in those remarks! :)

                                For the VCF, everyone knows that I spend six months or more, planning the snot out of every detail. But the workshops are the anti-VCF. The goal is for everyone to collaboratively repair computers, do some buying-selling-trading, and (most important of all) have fun.

                                I'm looking forward to seeing everyone next weekend. Yes, even you Herb.

                                Good night all.
                              • Al Hartman
                                A good time was had by all today. It was great to put faces to names from the list. I scored a TRS-80 Model 4D which seems to be working, and which I m going
                                Message 15 of 17 , Aug 3, 2013
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                                  A good time was had by all today. It was great to put faces to names from
                                  the list.

                                  I scored a TRS-80 Model 4D which seems to be working, and which I'm going to
                                  upgrade to 128k.

                                  A TRS-80 Model III which is not working, and has one floppy drive with a
                                  broken, but repairable latch. My friend Tom and I will try to fix it.

                                  And, a TRS-80 Model I 16k Level II Keyboard unit w/display to replace mine
                                  which is in need of serious repair. This unit works great but has keybounce,
                                  so I either have to replace the keyboard or clean the existing keyboard.

                                  There's lots of equipment still there, and it would be great if it would
                                  move. Lots of Apple II equipment, some Kaypros I saw, some Compaq and IBM
                                  machines, books and software, and all sorts of odds and ends.

                                  Jeff Brace has been great helping me with Commodore 64 matters, and now that
                                  I have a working Model 4D, I'd like to assist anyone in the group with
                                  TRS-80 things. If you're looking for boot disks for any model of TRS-80
                                  (Model I/III/4) I may have them, and would be willing to duplicate them for
                                  you at no charge. You send me blank disks and a pre-paid addressed return
                                  envelope, and I'll make copies, test them and send them out to you.

                                  I don't want TRS-80 software to disappear.

                                  I'm going to be going through my TRS-80 collection and try to catalog what I
                                  have. If you're looking for something, ask -- and I'll see if I have it. At
                                  some point I'll figure out how to make disk images of my collection and
                                  archive them on Hard disk or DVD.

                                  Lots of fun to come.

                                  Al Hartman
                                • David Riley
                                  ... LOADS of old Macs, too. Pretty much everything from early IIs (including an original Mac II and a IIx) up through late OldWorld PPC models (there s an
                                  Message 16 of 17 , Aug 3, 2013
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                                    On Aug 3, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Al Hartman wrote:

                                    > There's lots of equipment still there, and it would be great if it would
                                    > move. Lots of Apple II equipment, some Kaypros I saw, some Compaq and IBM
                                    > machines, books and software, and all sorts of odds and ends.

                                    LOADS of old Macs, too. Pretty much everything from early IIs (including an original Mac II and a IIx) up through late OldWorld PPC models (there's an 8600/300 here). Quite a few of the more interesting models, like the IIci.

                                    Also lots of fun for all!


                                    - Dave
                                  • corey986
                                    So you don t feel bad about missing buying the silent 700... I bought it for spare parts. It is a later model silent with RS232 only, no current loop and can
                                    Message 17 of 17 , Aug 4, 2013
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                                      So you don't feel bad about missing buying the silent 700...

                                      I bought it for spare parts. It is a later model silent with RS232 only, no current loop and can only do 300 baud. Also parity can't be disabled. I already have one of the silent 700 series than can do 110/300 baud and rs232/current loop which makes when combined with a current loop tape reader/punch (which I have) a great replacement for a teletype, this one I got yesterday isn't as useful except for the print head and gears to keep my better one running.

                                      Cheers,
                                      Corey


                                      --- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, corey986 <no_reply@...> wrote:
                                      >
                                      > Well it depends on which silent 700. The modem ones seem pretty common. The older rs232/current loop ones seem hard to find.
                                      >
                                      > Cheers,
                                      > Corey
                                      >
                                      > --- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, joshbensadon <no_reply@> wrote:
                                      > >
                                      > > --- In midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com, Evan Koblentz <evan@> wrote:
                                      > > > the money, so please don't lowball her. (Nor should anyone make offers
                                      > > > here on the list. "Be there," or be square...)
                                      > > >
                                      > >
                                      > > I wish I could be there.. just too far for me to travel.
                                      > >
                                      > > I would like that Silent 700
                                      > >
                                      > > :)
                                      > >
                                      >
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