Re: PDP-11 Programmers WANTED!
- Regarding the SEL systems-32, I recently noticed that somebody has come up with a SEL software compatible system, so potentially the HW could be replaced with something more modern and the software reused. Presumably it runs on a modern processor in emulation. Like you say, it would still have to be re-qualified, but I imagine maintaining those old systems will only get more expensive as time goes on. They are also still in use in flight simulators. I have also seen some SEL systems-32 cards on ebay with fairly high prices, given the age and relative obscurity of the system.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Dan Roganti <ragooman@...> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Dave McGuire <Mcguire@...> wrote:
> > On 06/19/2013 09:42 AM, brian_cirulnick wrote:
> > > Dunno if you've seen this article, but it turns out that Nuclear Plants
> > are going to keep their existing PDP-11's running until 2050, so right now,
> > GE is scouring Vintage Computer forums in search of PDP-11 programmers....
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/19/nuke_plants_to_keep_pdp11_until_2050/
> > >
> > > Yes boys and girls, vintage computing is alive and well in places like
> > Insurance, Banks, and Nuclear Power. Funny how things that are CRITICAL to
> > running our infrastructure aren't running Windows.
> > Yup. And in that industry, it isn't "vintage computing". It's just
> > the way it's done, the right tool for the job.
> There's all kinds of original equipment still used in mission critical
> operations. There's still almost 2 acres of floor space in the datacenter
> with 2 dozen systems from SEL and two CDC Cyber 840's still kicking at
> Vandenberg AFB. This is still running after 35years and it was designed as
> a result of the SALT-II treaty and began operations in 1978. I recently
> heard from an old colleague that our systems will still be in service for
> another decade after the contract renewal. Frankly, it's more cost
> prohibitive to replace systems with this level of reliability without
> undergoing extensive (and expensive) regression tests all over again -
> that's a requirement - we're not talking about some POS system for your
> local dept store. Sure they can replace Tape drives and Hard drives
> with compatible equipment, but the computer hardware and software have to
> be proven, eg. no bugs (hard or soft). Of course they make
> newer reliable equipment, but that may be fine only for new mission
> critical projects, but try to get an approval for defense contract or FAA
> certification to replace a 30+yr old system that's still a reliable diehard
> - only because you like to open your Facebook acct while the missile is
> streaming off course.
> U.S. Air Force Western Space and Missile Center
> Vandenberg AB