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Re: [midatlanticretro] (was) New Aquisition! - (now) XENIX: Don't format yet!

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  • Sridhar Ayengar
    ... These machines are very different. They re more like RS/6000 s than PC s. Peace... Sridhar
    Message 1 of 29 , Jan 5, 2006
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      Evan wrote:
      > Someone please explain to me why we're troubleshooting a 386 on this
      > list? As previously threatened, I'm bringing a shotgun (or at least a
      > Wiffleball bat) to our next meeting.

      These machines are very different. They're more like RS/6000's than PC's.

      Peace... Sridhar
    • Joe Giliberti
      ... It has 4096k with a RAM expansion board. Knoppix probably wouldn t work. I am going to continue to tinker over the weekend. In the meantime, I can play
      Message 2 of 29 , Jan 5, 2006
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        Jim Scheef wrote:

        >Joe,
        >
        >With all the poking around you've been doing the disk error could just mean a
        >loose cable. How much RAM does it have? It probably doesn't have enough to
        >load the Knoppix kernel - never mind X and Gnome.
        >
        >I just typed 'boot disk xenix' into Yahoo search and found a reference to
        >http://aplawrence.com/SCOFAQ/FAQ_scotec1downloadboot.html which is a list of
        >FTPable boot disk images. There is a listing for Xenix 2.3.2 386 MCA 3.5"
        >(ESDI)which is probably exactly what you need.
        >
        >Unfortunately the links are to Caldera and now you get caught up in the SCO
        >UNIX mess as it appears the files are no longer available from Caldera. This
        >is a start to what is probably a long quest.
        >
        >Anyway, keep posting your progress.
        >
        >Jim
        >
        >
        >
        >
        It has 4096k with a RAM expansion board. Knoppix probably wouldn't work.
        I am going to continue to tinker over the weekend. In the meantime, I
        can play around with old line BASIC that is in the ROM.
      • Jim Scheef
        Joe, Wow. This was really a high end machine when it was new! Evan, hush. This machine is in the holy book - page 75. Jim
        Message 3 of 29 , Jan 5, 2006
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          Joe,

          Wow. This was really a high end machine when it was new!

          Evan, hush. This machine is in the holy book - page 75.

          Jim

          --- Joe Giliberti <starbase89@...> wrote:

          > Jim Scheef wrote:
          >
          > >Joe,
          > >
          > >With all the poking around you've been doing the disk error could just
          > mean a
          > >loose cable. How much RAM does it have? It probably doesn't have enough to
          > >load the Knoppix kernel - never mind X and Gnome.
          > >
          > >I just typed 'boot disk xenix' into Yahoo search and found a reference to
          > >http://aplawrence.com/SCOFAQ/FAQ_scotec1downloadboot.html which is a list
          > of
          > >FTPable boot disk images. There is a listing for Xenix 2.3.2 386 MCA 3.5"
          > >(ESDI)which is probably exactly what you need.
          > >
          > >Unfortunately the links are to Caldera and now you get caught up in the
          > SCO
          > >UNIX mess as it appears the files are no longer available from Caldera.
          > This
          > >is a start to what is probably a long quest.
          > >
          > >Anyway, keep posting your progress.
          > >
          > >Jim
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > It has 4096k with a RAM expansion board. Knoppix probably wouldn't work.
          > I am going to continue to tinker over the weekend. In the meantime, I
          > can play around with old line BASIC that is in the ROM.
          >
        • Evan
          The holy book ...? _____ From: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com [mailto:midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Scheef Sent: Friday, January 06,
          Message 4 of 29 , Jan 5, 2006
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            "The holy book"...?


            From: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com [mailto:midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Scheef
            Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:19 AM
            To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] (was) New Aquisition! - (now) XENIX: Don't format yet!

            Joe,

            Wow. This was really a high end machine when it was new!

            Evan, hush. This machine is in the holy book - page 75.

            Jim

            --- Joe Giliberti <starbase89@...> wrote:

            > Jim Scheef wrote:
            >
            > >Joe,
            > >
            > >With all the poking around you've been doing the disk error
            could just
            > mean a
            > >loose cable. How much RAM does it have? It
            probably doesn't have enough to
            > >load the Knoppix kernel - never mind
            X and Gnome.
            > >
            > >I just typed 'boot disk xenix' into Yahoo
            search and found a reference to
            > >
            href="http://aplawrence.com/SCOFAQ/FAQ_scotec1downloadboot.html">http://aplawrence.com/SCOFAQ/FAQ_scotec1downloadboot.html which is a list
            > of
            > >FTPable boot disk images. There is a
            listing for Xenix 2.3.2 386 MCA 3.5"
            > >(ESDI)which is probably exactly
            what you need.
            > >
            > >Unfortunately the links are to Caldera
            and now you get caught up in the
            > SCO
            > >UNIX mess as it appears
            the files are no longer available from Caldera.
            > This
            > >is a
            start to what is probably a long quest.
            > >
            > >Anyway, keep
            posting your progress.
            > >
            > >Jim
            > >
            > >
            > > 
            > >
            > It has 4096k with a RAM expansion
            board. Knoppix probably wouldn't work.
            > I am going to continue to tinker
            over the weekend. In the meantime, I
            > can play around with old line
            BASIC that is in the ROM.
            >

          • Joe Giliberti
            ... And God said The IBM PS/2 Model 80 should be consider holy
            Message 5 of 29 , Jan 5, 2006
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              Evan wrote:

              > "The holy book"...?
              >
              > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
              > *From:* midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
              > [mailto:midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jim Scheef
              > *Sent:* Friday, January 06, 2006 12:19 AM
              > *To:* midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
              > *Subject:* Re: [midatlanticretro] (was) New Aquisition! - (now) XENIX:
              > Don't format yet!
              >
              > Joe,
              >
              > Wow. This was really a high end machine when it was new!
              >
              > Evan, hush. This machine is in the holy book - page 75.
              >
              > Jim
              >
              > --- Joe Giliberti <starbase89@...> wrote:
              >
              > > Jim Scheef wrote:
              > >
              > > >Joe,
              > > >
              > > >With all the poking around you've been doing the disk error could just
              > > mean a
              > > >loose cable. How much RAM does it have? It probably doesn't have
              > enough to
              > > >load the Knoppix kernel - never mind X and Gnome.
              > > >
              > > >I just typed 'boot disk xenix' into Yahoo search and found a
              > reference to
              > > >http://aplawrence.com/SCOFAQ/FAQ_scotec1downloadboot.html which is
              > a list
              > > of
              > > >FTPable boot disk images. There is a listing for Xenix 2.3.2 386
              > MCA 3.5"
              > > >(ESDI)which is probably exactly what you need.
              > > >
              > > >Unfortunately the links are to Caldera and now you get caught up in the
              > > SCO
              > > >UNIX mess as it appears the files are no longer available from Caldera.
              > > This
              > > >is a start to what is probably a long quest.
              > > >
              > > >Anyway, keep posting your progress.
              > > >
              > > >Jim
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > It has 4096k with a RAM expansion board. Knoppix probably wouldn't
              > work.
              > > I am going to continue to tinker over the weekend. In the meantime, I
              > > can play around with old line BASIC that is in the ROM.
              > >
              >
              >
              "And God said The IBM PS/2 Model 80 should be consider holy"
            • William Pechter
              Rats... Had some SCSI versions at IBM... Bill
              Message 6 of 29 , Jan 9, 2006
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                Rats...

                Had some SCSI versions at IBM...

                Bill

                --- Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster@...> wrote:

                > William Pechter wrote:
                > > Is there an external scsi connector on the backpanel?
                >
                > The machine isn't SCSI. It's ESDI.
                >
                > Peace... Sridhar
                >
              • John Allain
                I m still with Family right now for this week, Sometime after will probably be OK. Sunday s a choice over Saturday for me. John A. ... From: Evan To:
                Message 7 of 29 , Jan 9, 2006
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                  I'm still with Family right now for this week, Sometime after will
                  probably be OK. Sunday's a choice over Saturday for me.

                  John A.


                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: Evan
                  To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:42 PM
                  Subject: RE: [midatlanticretro] (was) New Aquisition! - (now) XENIX: Don't
                  format yet!
                  . . .
                  Speaking of which, who's up for another meeting/work day at InfoAge? We
                  need to catalog, catalog, catalog. I know cataloging isn't exactly the most
                  fun activity but it needs to get done and I can't do it alone.
                • Chris M
                  what kind of server is the NEC? ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection
                  Message 8 of 29 , Jan 10, 2006
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                    what kind of server is the NEC?

                    --- Joe Giliberti <starbase89@...> wrote:

                    > The other night, I bid on a lot of 8 mixed computers
                    > on eBay. I won at a
                    > price of $1.76. I just picked them up. Post of them
                    > are old Pentium 1
                    > machines, but there were two machines that caught my
                    > eye. The first is
                    > an IBM PS/2 Model 80. It seems to be complete, and
                    > then some. Has a
                    > floppy drive, and some kind of cartidge tape drive.
                    > Has what looks like
                    > an old MFM hard drive inside. Additionally, there is
                    > a RAM expansion
                    > card, the HDD controller card, and some type of SCSI
                    > card, with a
                    > breakout box on connected with what looks like a
                    > Centronics cable. Just,
                    > can anyone tell me the basic specs? Is it a 286 or a
                    > 386? The other is
                    > an older Macintosh. A Preforma 575. It has a built
                    > in monitor and a
                    > CD-ROM drive, but I'm not sure if it would be
                    > considered vintage. It is
                    > not PowerPC era. I'm guessing from "575" that is is
                    > running at 75MHz,
                    > but that may not be the case. Meanwhile, I also have
                    > about 6 beigeboxes,
                    > one of which is an NEC server. Fun fun fun...
                    >
                    > Joe G
                    >


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