RE: [midatlanticretro] Re: Report -- InfoAge work day...
- Egads everyone, I'm replying to my own reply...My message earlier today was sent in a hurry from a Treo, because Frank's comments deserved an urgent reply. But my reply didn't come out as clearly as I hoped.Frank is absolutely correct -- everything in the Grabbe collection belongs to Infoage, not MARCH -- and so we have to be more considerate of Infoage leaders' opinions as we assemble the museum. Granted, Fred's directive to us is simply "do your best with your limited resources," and we've done exactly that so far. We just need to keep thinking in terms of the big picture. Also, as we in MARCH start to get more items donated directly to us, it's going to be more tedious to organize it all. But I think we did a pretty good job yesterday.Frank's also correct about what he said (or at least what I read) between the lines -- that I was too quick to open my big mouth. My comments about "claiming" rooms and such, albeit mostly just joking around and referencing some inside jokes from Saturday, were obviously vague and inappropriate for the general list. I apologize to Frank and anyone else who I offended.And now back to our regularly scheduled programming.Assuming no snow, who's up for another work day on Saturday, Dec. 10? Now that we got some organizing done, we can begin real cataloging, as was the plan yesterday.From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of evanFrank, no worries, your opinion as an InfoAge officer is worth a lot more than
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] Re: Report -- InfoAge work day...
two cents to us. :)
We in MARCH already knew each other yesterday but we were glad to share our
backgrounds and interests with you.
However, please keep in mind that messages like my trip report on this mailing
list are only intended as entertaining, informative, and informal updates for
our general membership. So when I used phrases like turf its only in q casual
I assure you that MARCH and specifically our officers fully understand that
most of our collection is actually InfoAges collection/property. We are very
careful to make this distinction when it really counts, for example, when we
were organizing things in the basement yesterday. Im sure you understand that
in the purely colloquial sense we just say our collection for simplicity on
this mailing list rather than explaining the asterisk each time. We save the
long explanation for newcomers, etc.
(Sent from my cell phone so this message is brief, will follow-up with you
--- email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>that we'll have
> Yes, it was great to get to know everyone - I'm sure
> a lot of fun in the future. Apologies for not beingable to stay
> longer - but at least my meetings at another museum(Sarnoff) were
> productive... Apologies further for my inablility toremember faces
> and names - over time I promise to get better!main
> > We previously talked about having our museum space at InfoAge's
> > building ("the hotel") but there is too much happening theresecurity. So, per Fred's
> > construction) and there is too little
> originalout a nice part of the second building (I forget
> > idea, we scoped
> what it'scalled -- I mean the building directly behind the hotel where the
> > Broadcasters Hall of Fame will also be located.)vaguely had Fred's permission to make this claim,
> Since I wasn't there, is this what we refer to as "The Library"? -
> It's the "L" shaped building behind the hotel.
> > We
> > but he had toleave for a few hours. The conclusion: "It's easier
> to donow
> > and ask for forgiveness later than to get permissionfirst."
> Wrong! You guys have to understand that you are now
> our organization, and that kind or attitude certainlydoesn't endear
> us to MARCH. Fred has a cellphone, as do I. Both of usare available
> to answer questions or help organize.servers,
> > We began moving all the heavy computers (lots of DEC, teletypes,
> > etc.) from the NJBHOF room down the hall to a couple ofthe rooms
> in "our"across a few of the rooms...
> > new turf. We spread out the items
> each room wemakes it one less room another group can claim,
> > use for storage
> right?the "H" buildings come online, everything will probably get moved
> Wrong again. Very Wrong. It's not "your" turf. It's Infoage's turf.
> We make the final call. You cannot make claims for space that we may
> have plans for in the future. Additionally, in the future when
>around in ways that none of us can imagine. Honestly, Evan, this kind
>of attitude is really going to endanger our relationship. I suggest
> youthink about what your expectations are, and how you think you can
> fitin. As with the other organizations that are under the
> Infoage"umbrella", we have to paraphrase JFK:
>can do for you - ask what you can do for
> "Ask not, what Infoage
> Infoage"(O.K., it's a bit of a stretch, but you get the idea....)
>One highlight: the vast InfoAge
> > collection is only LESS THAN HALFof Mr. Grabbe's full collection.
> Theyet to be transported from Grabbe's home in the
> > other half is
> Harrisburg, PAthe collection and one
> > area to InfoAge. Fred is working on setting this up. When the
> time comes,
> > he'll need three assistants -- "two to move
> to keepFred's words, not mine.
> > Mr. Grabbe occupied" --
>yesterday, Dr. Grabbe is first and
> As we discussed in the meeting
> foremost an Electical Engineer, andquite honestly, is not into old
> computers as much as his collectionmight imply. His focus is on
> computer design, "packaging" andassociated technologies. This means
> that any kind or oral historiesshould probably focus on this area.
> We can get all kinds of infoelsewhere on PDP-8's and -11's for
> example, but where else are we goingto going to get a talk about
> Gene Amdahl's wafer scale integrationprogram (incredible stuff!)?
> The computer (actually, more of aprogrammable sequencer) for Mariner
> 4? Etc. Dr. Grabbe *loves* to get"down and dirty" when talking about
> the technologies - it's our job totranslate a lot of this into
> understandable English for the public. Isuggest that one or two of
> your folks with EE backgrounds come with youto help probe his mind
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