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  • billdeg@aol.com
    From July 1976 on I believe they were the b s If your board had 1975 printed on it then I would be more confident that is was a non-b Another thing to
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      From July 1976 on I believe they were the "b's" If your board had 1975
      printed on it then I would be more confident that is was a "non-b"

      Another thing to check would be the monitor ROM, they were different in the
      two models. You might be able to get the model by looking up that chip. If
      you have BASIC for the 680, it may make mention in the documentation of the ROM
      monitor required, and from there you can infer the model.

      The main motherboard of the 680b will have a space at position L for a
      "Baudot serial" chip, look for a chip with 74LS74 on it. If you have this, it's a
      680b.

      I have an SWTPc 6800 which is similar to the 680, but not exactly. The 680
      used S-100 bus and the Altair has a A-50 (Altair custom 50) bus. You can load
      programs from the SWTPc onto the 680 with minor modifications (I have been
      told).

      Bill

      In a message dated 9/3/2005 9:14:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
      ragooman@... writes:

      > One thing I noticed after I took this part, the mainboard actually says
      > this
      > MITS 1976
      > 680 MAINBOARD REV 1-6x
      > I hope somebody might be able to help identify this model. I'm thinking
      > this is actually a 680 and not a 680b, am I right ?
    • Dan
      I couldn t tell which month in 76 this mainboard might have been made. Is yours a 608b too then ? I was hoping the Rev # would give a clue. The mainboard does
      Message 2 of 11 , Sep 5, 2005
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        I couldn't tell which month in '76 this mainboard might have been made.
        Is yours a 608b too then ? I was hoping the Rev # would give a clue. The
        mainboard does have a place for IC L (74LS74), but the socket is empty.
        So would the 680 version have a blank spot there w/o any traces ? I
        recall seeing pictures online of the early 680's with a beige front
        panel, mine isn't. I guess then this might be a 680b after all.

        I think my brother never ordered this with the Monitor Rom, because that
        socket is empty. The System Monitor manual still has the source code in
        there. The title in there mentions 680b Prom Monitor. I'll have to try
        and dig up some 1702 Roms and program some, I hope I get a good one.
        This might be a good time to build a rom emulator.

        I think I remember why now we had to build an ascii keyboard w/ parallel
        intfc for this. We didn't have a terminal back then to use if we had a
        Monitor Rom. So we had this wired up to the machine as an I/O port
        instead. Looking through some of the code listings on an old notepad, I
        found a code listing for a Monitor code which allowed us to read from
        the ascii keyboard. Basically, this code was modified from the original
        Monitor Rom and skipped over the ACIA serial chip instead and read from
        a memory-mapped I/O port.

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        billdeg@... wrote:

        > >From July 1976 on I believe they were the "b's" If your board had 1975
        > printed on it then I would be more confident that is was a "non-b"
        >
        > Another thing to check would be the monitor ROM, they were different
        > in the
        > two models. You might be able to get the model by looking up that
        > chip. If
        > you have BASIC for the 680, it may make mention in the documentation
        > of the ROM
        > monitor required, and from there you can infer the model.
        >
        > The main motherboard of the 680b will have a space at position L for a
        > "Baudot serial" chip, look for a chip with 74LS74 on it. If you have
        > this, it's a
        > 680b.
        >
        > I have an SWTPc 6800 which is similar to the 680, but not exactly.
        > The 680
        > used S-100 bus and the Altair has a A-50 (Altair custom 50) bus. You
        > can load
        > programs from the SWTPc onto the 680 with minor modifications (I have
        > been
        > told).
        >
        > Bill
        >
        >


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      • Dan
        An old buddy of mine gave me his Swtpc 6800 way back, actually 2 machines and a bunch of boards. I haven t turned it on since he had this running. This is
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          An old buddy of mine gave me his Swtpc 6800 way back, actually 2
          machines and a bunch of boards. I haven't turned it on since he had this
          running. This is another project I'll be working after the 680 gets
          done. I actually have a few machines that I dug out this summer, which
          should keep me busy through the winter. I brought out the 680,
          Swtpc(2x), Imsai, and the Heathkit H-8/H-9. Got my fingers crossed now

          =Dan

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          billdeg@... wrote:

          >
          >
          > I have an SWTPc 6800 which is similar to the 680, but not exactly
          >
          >


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        • billdeg@aol.com
          Dan, I should say that I could be totally wrong...I don t have a 680, but I have seen in a couple here and there. I actually read about the B when reading up
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            Dan,
            I should say that I could be totally wrong...I don't have a 680, but I have
            seen in a couple here and there. I actually read about the B when reading up
            on my SWTPc 6800. I can't remember exactly where. Definately the IC L was
            made with a blank on the "B" unless you added the optional serial ROM for the
            slot. I don't know if the non-B 680 would have the slot or not, but I would
            focus on that part of the card, try to find a schematic that compares the two to
            get your answer about the rev of your particulat 680.

            Bill D

            In a message dated 9/5/2005 8:56:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,
            ragooman@... writes:

            > I couldn't tell which month in '76 this mainboard might have been made.
            > Is yours a 608b too then ? I was hoping the Rev # would give a clue. The
            > mainboard does have a place for IC L (74LS74), but the socket is empty.
            > So would the 680 version have a blank spot there w/o any traces ? I
            > recall seeing pictures online of the early 680's with a beige front
            > panel, mine isn't. I guess then this might be a 680b after all.
            >
            > I think my brother never ordered this with the Monitor Rom, because that
            > socket is empty. The System Monitor manual still has the source code in
            > there. The title in there mentions 680b Prom Monitor. I'll have to try
            > and dig up some 1702 Roms and program some, I hope I get a good one.
            > This might be a good time to build a rom emulator.
            >
            > I think I remember why now we had to build an ascii keyboard w/ parallel
            > intfc for this. We didn't have a terminal back then to use if we had a
            > Monitor Rom. So we had this wired up to the machine as an I/O port
            > instead. Looking through some of the code listings on an old notepad, I
            > found a code listing for a Monitor code which allowed us to read from
            > the ascii keyboard. Basically, this code was modified from the original
            > Monitor Rom and skipped over the ACIA serial chip instead and read from
            > a memory-mapped I/O port.
            >
            > =Dan
          • Dan
            There was somebody on the Altair Computer Club yahoo newsgroup that recently posted some links with pics for the internals of 680. I can see now how they added
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              There was somebody on the Altair Computer Club yahoo newsgroup that
              recently posted some links with pics for the internals of 680. I can see
              now how they added the expansion boards inside this little box.

              =Dan

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              billdeg@... wrote:

              > Dan,
              > I should say that I could be totally wrong...I don't have a 680, but I
              > have
              > seen in a couple here and there. I actually read about the B when
              > reading up
              > on my SWTPc 6800. I can't remember exactly where. Definately the IC
              > L was
              > made with a blank on the "B" unless you added the optional serial ROM
              > for the
              > slot. I don't know if the non-B 680 would have the slot or not, but I
              > would
              > focus on that part of the card, try to find a schematic that compares
              > the two to
              > get your answer about the rev of your particulat 680.
              >
              > Bill D
              >
              >


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            • billdeg@aol.com
              now there s a buddy! Sounds like fun. I use a Zenith c-19 terminal with my SWTPc @ 300 baud. Are you planning on doing a display table at VCF 3? Any one of
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                now there's a buddy! 
                 
                Sounds like fun.  I use a Zenith c-19 terminal with my SWTPc @ 300 baud.
                 
                Are you planning on doing a display table at VCF 3?  Any one of those systems would be interesting to see in action.
                 
                Bill
                 
                 
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: Dan <ragooman@...>
                To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 10:31:16 -0400
                Subject: SWTPC 6800...e: [midatlanticretro] Which version is it, Altair 680 or 680b ?

                
                An old buddy of mine gave me his Swtpc 6800 way back, actually 2 
                machines and a bunch of boards. I haven't turned it on since he had this 
                running. This is another project I'll be working after the 680 gets 
                done. I actually have a few machines that I dug out this summer, which 
                should keep me busy through the winter. I brought out the 680, 
                Swtpc(2x), Imsai, and the Heathkit H-8/H-9. Got my fingers crossed now
                
                =Dan
                
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                billdeg@... wrote:
                
                
                > > > I have an SWTPc 6800 which is similar to the 680, but not exactly > >
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              • Dan
                I m hoping I can use my Heathkit H-9 terminal for each of the machines. But I guess I ll have to find some more terminals if I want to make a display with
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                  I'm hoping I can use my Heathkit H-9 terminal for each of the machines.
                  But I guess I'll have to find some more terminals if I want to make a
                  display with several machines running.

                  I've never been to any of the VCF events. When I look at the VCF
                  website, I see there's a VCF 8 planned out in Cali. But I couldn't make
                  that one. Then I also heard about the VCF Midwest planned but that's not
                  mentioned on the website either. I heard from Evan there maybe a VCF
                  East ? I guess that's VCF East 3. But I don't see that mentioned on the
                  VCF website. This one would be closer for me if it's in NJ.

                  If the VCF East 3 is planned for the spring (after we thaw out) I could
                  make an effort to get there with a couple of machines. I'll have to see
                  how far I get with the machines I have here. I like to get Basic running
                  on some of the machines too. I'll keep you posted.

                  =Dan

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                  billdeg@... wrote:

                  > now there's a buddy!
                  >
                  > Sounds like fun. I use a Zenith c-19 terminal with my SWTPc @ 300 baud.
                  >
                  > Are you planning on doing a display table at VCF 3? Any one of those
                  > systems would be interesting to see in action.
                  >
                  > Bill
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > -----Original Message-----
                  > From: Dan <ragooman@...>
                  > To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
                  > Sent: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 10:31:16 -0400
                  > Subject: SWTPC 6800...e: [midatlanticretro] Which version is it,
                  > Altair 680 or 680b ?
                  >
                  >
                  >An old buddy of mine gave me his Swtpc 6800 way back, actually 2
                  >machines and a bunch of boards. I haven't turned it on since he had this
                  >running. This is another project I'll be working after the 680 gets
                  >done. I actually have a few machines that I dug out this summer, which
                  >should keep me busy through the winter. I brought out the 680,
                  >Swtpc(2x), Imsai, and the Heathkit H-8/H-9. Got my fingers crossed now
                  >
                  >=Dan
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                  >billdeg@... <mailto:billdeg%40aol.com> wrote:
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                  >> I have an SWTPc 6800 which is similar to the 680, but not exactly
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                • Evan
                  ... But I don t see that mentioned on the VCF website. This one would be closer for me if it s in NJ. Dan, I promise you that we ll host East 3.0 next spring!!
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                    >>> I heard from Evan there maybe a VCF East ? I guess that's VCF East 3. But I don't see that mentioned on the VCF website. This one would be closer for me if it's in NJ.
                    Dan, I promise you that we'll host East 3.0 next spring!!
                     
                    But before we add it to Sellam's site, we have to determine 1.) the date, and 2.) how we're going to pay for it.
                     
                    "Paying for it" is the reason why I'm gauging interest in holding a swap meet this fall, or better yet, having someone think of a much simpler way of fundraising.
                     
                    Any ideas?  Anyone?  Bueller...?
                     
                    We need to raise $1,000 or more, in order to rent tables and stuff, buy event insurance, do some advertising, etc. ... one aspect is that we'll add a simple "please donate" button when the new web site is ready and when we open a bank account.  John Allain (our webmaster) and Jim Scheef (our treasurer) are working on both projects.


                    From: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com [mailto:midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan
                    Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 9:37 PM
                    To: midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: VCF...Re: SWTPC 6800...e: [midatlanticretro] Which version is it, Altair 680 or 680b ?


                    I'm hoping I can use my Heathkit H-9 terminal for each of the machines.
                    But I guess I'll have to find some more terminals if I want to make a
                    display with several machines running.

                    I've never been to any of the VCF events. When I look at the VCF
                    website, I see there's a VCF 8 planned out in Cali. But I couldn't make
                    that one. Then I also heard about the VCF Midwest planned but that's not
                    mentioned on the website either. I heard from Evan there maybe a VCF
                    East ? I guess that's VCF East 3. But I don't see that mentioned on the
                    VCF website. This one would be closer for me if it's in NJ.

                    If the VCF East 3 is planned for the spring (after we thaw out) I could
                    make an effort to get there with a couple of machines. I'll have to see
                    how far I get with the machines I have here. I like to get Basic running
                    on some of the machines too. I'll keep you posted.

                    =Dan

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                    billdeg@... wrote:

                    > now there's a buddy!

                    > Sounds like
                    fun.  I use a Zenith c-19 terminal with my SWTPc @ 300 baud.

                    > Are you planning on doing a display table at VCF 3?  Any one of
                    those
                    > systems would be interesting to see in action.

                    > Bill



                    > -----Original
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                    > From: Dan <ragooman@...>
                    > To:
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                    > Sent: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 10:31:16
                    -0400
                    > Subject: SWTPC 6800...e: [midatlanticretro] Which version is it,
                    > Altair 680 or 680b ?
                    >
                    >
                    >An old buddy of mine gave
                    me his Swtpc 6800 way back, actually 2
                    >machines and a bunch of boards. I
                    haven't turned it on since he had this
                    >running. This is another project
                    I'll be working after the 680 gets
                    >done. I actually have a few machines
                    that I dug out this summer, which
                    >should keep me busy through the
                    winter. I brought out the 680,
                    >Swtpc(2x), Imsai, and the Heathkit
                    H-8/H-9. Got my fingers crossed now
                    >
                    >=Dan
                    >
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                  • Vintage Computer Festival
                    ... Serious question: are the links that hidden? It looks pretty obvious to me: you click on Events (there are at least two links on the main page). On the
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                      On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, Dan wrote:

                      > I've never been to any of the VCF events. When I look at the VCF
                      > website, I see there's a VCF 8 planned out in Cali. But I couldn't make
                      > that one. Then I also heard about the VCF Midwest planned but that's not
                      > mentioned on the website either. I heard from Evan there maybe a VCF
                      > East ? I guess that's VCF East 3. But I don't see that mentioned on the
                      > VCF website. This one would be closer for me if it's in NJ.

                      Serious question: are the links that hidden? It looks pretty obvious to
                      me: you click on Events (there are at least two links on the main page).
                      On the events page, the current events are listed on the top and the past
                      events underneath.

                      VCF Midwest happened 6 weeks ago. VCF East 3.0 is still in the
                      pre-planning stages.

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                    • Dan
                      Oh I guess that s why I didn t see the Midwest event, it happened already. I was looking for a future date. Sorry about that. I ll keep waiting for the VCF
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                        Oh I guess that's why I didn't see the Midwest event, it happened
                        already. I was looking for a future date. Sorry about that. I'll keep
                        waiting for the VCF East 3 announcement.

                        =Dan

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                        > VCF Midwest happened 6 weeks ago. VCF East 3.0 is still in the
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