8375RE: [midatlanticretro] Exhibit planning - 70s/80s micros
- Jun 20, 2008Ancestry to the iPod? That's quite a stretch other than they're both successful Apple products.
Subj: RE: [midatlanticretro] Exhibit planning - 70s/80s micros
Date: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:00 pm
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In addition to its ancestory to the iPod is the fact many of the younger
viewers used various kinds of Apples in school during the 'eighties.
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Bob Applegate wrote:
> B. Degnan <billdeg@...> wrote :
> > Name one technical innovation that came from the ii plus...it's just a //
> > with newer ROMs, same with the iie, it's the "oops we messed up on the
> > Apple ///" protect Apple's marketshare system. The SWTPc was a
> > revolutionary system, and for about 6 months, one of the only alternatives
> > to the Altair in late 1975 early 1976.
> The SWTPC was no more revolutionary than any other system, and I disagree that
> it had a big following. I was there, and other machines had far more
> coverage and stuff written about them than SWTPC. FWIW, I really liked their
> machines, but there wasn't a big software base and there wasn't as much
> enthusiasm for it than some of the other machines. Some of their other products
> were pretty cool at the time, such as that 40 column printer and the cheap
> terminal, cassette interface adaptor, etc.
> The ][+ was an extremely common machine that really established the 6502. It's
> also historically interesting in that most people who view the exhibit will
> probably have iPods, iPhones or other new Apple products. Very few of the
> early computer companies survived, which makes the early Apple products very
> As much as I hate to admit it (Remember, I had to program Apple clones as a
> job and hated the "architecture"), the Apple did a heck of a lot of stuff in
> very cool ways. You might not think there is anything inovative in it, but
> look at how much was done in software versus hardware. There is NO disk
> controller in the common sense... it's done in software! Hardware was very
> expensive back then, so the Woz did it in 6502 assembly language instead.
> Scary, yes, but also quite innovative. Having bank select of ROM/RAM so you
> could run code out of ROM while also putting new code into the RAM at the
> same address and then switch to RAM for all accesses once the code was loaded.
> Apple also had some pretty difficult patents on their color generatiion logic
> that Franklin struggled to work around.
> NOCC, http://nocc.sourceforge.net
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