796RE: [midatlanticretro] regarding Ebay and vintage computers
- Jul 4, 2005>>>> This could itself turn into a businessLOL, well that's more than I had in mind... actually I've been pondering the idea of some kind of hobby association for a while, but for now it seemed like an idea to keep on the shelf and refine. I also hadn't thought of the certification idea until Bill's email.Bill:
From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of Richard A. Cini
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 3:54 PM
Subject: RE: [midatlanticretro] regarding Ebay and vintage computers
Interesting proposition. First order of business is to buy
liability insurance :-)
This sort of thing already exists in the form of "escrow sales"
on eBay. Unfortunately, since there's a fee for using it, many people
don't. I just buught an Altair for $650 from "fdbruce". I didn't use an
escrow because (1) it's a pain, (2) it takes longer to get my item and
(3) I knew the seller through his eBay history. The escrow agent is
responsible for determining that what was listed was in fact the item
and is in the condition as specified. If those conditions are met,
escrow is broken and the money and item are exchanged.
While writing this response I saw the note from Evan. I agree.
This is a wider problem that should be also be addressed with the
ClassicCmp list. This could itself turn into a business requiring the
full-time commitment of a few individuals. You'd have to convince eBay
to advertise our verification services, offer our credentials, and let
them endorse it.
Classic marketing...define and advertise the problem and offer a
solution for a fee (natch). Build a business plan! Call the Venture
Capitalists! The ticker symbol should be "MRCH"!
[mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of billdeg@...
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 3:17 PM
Subject: [midatlanticretro] regarding Ebay and vintage computers
The recent sale of a fake Apple I computer got me thinking. I knew it
fake because the keyboard layout differs from the original kit. The
the auction ended at over $2000 tells me how uneducated and greedy
I sell and buy things on ebay regularly, and sometimes vintage
don't really have anything against it, you just have to be smart like
I believe that Ebay is simply a reflection of the world capitalist
You can argue back and forth, blah blah blah, but that's not my main
People are going to buy and sell vintage computers and parts on Ebay no
what. That said, what do you all think about some sort of "MARCH seal
authenticity" for vintage computer sellers to earn from our group? I
exactly how it would work, but it might be a way to earn money for the
and build a the MARCH name in a positive way. If a person wanted to
vintage computer or part, a representative of MARCH could somehow
"yes this computer/part works and is what the seller says it is" There
organizations that do this sort of thing for coins and baseball cards.
Just a thought. People could send us pictures of their systems in
if there is no MARCH-certified person available locally. I am not
that we actually do this now, but I am curious what others think of the
concept in general.
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