2210RE: [midatlanticretro] Lisa landfill
- Jan 26, 2006Actually, yes. There's something in the tax code that specifies that they
have to be damaged beyond serviceability.
[mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of Chris M
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:40 PM
Subject: RE: [midatlanticretro] Lisa landfill
just curious why they would have gone to the trouble
of running them over with bulldozers. Would not
dumping them several states away be enough to
constitute destruction? Did the bean counters worry
someone would drive out there and retrieve them?
> It was a tax issue for Apple. IIRC, they did this atthe EOL of the Lisa
> line. They couldn't sell them and they couldn't takethe write-off --
> remembering back to accounting, you can write-downinventory to its fair
> market value (zero in this case), but of course youtake a charge to
> earnings for that amount.them, you can take the
> There's a loophole however in that if you destroy
> write-off with no hit to earnings, although I don'tknow the finer points of
> that tax treatment. I remember reading that theybrought them to the
> landfill and ran them over with bulldozers.Of Ray Sills
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> [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:59 PMlandfill could be on
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> Subject: Re: [midatlanticretro] Lisa landfill
> And... there's another issue: permission. The
> private property... or government property, and thepeople who
> control it might take exception to someone wanderingon to the
> property, and digging up items that are buried.like old airplanes
> Some discarded items are just left on the surface,
> located in various mothball locations in thesouthwest. But, if
> these items are in a true landfill, it might not bepossible to open
> the landfill without a court order or something likethat. And the
> EPA might also not want anyone digging, either.disposed of by
> Still, it's a shame that some neat stuff has been
> dumping. Apple Computer didn't have an Apple Storeon the web back
> then to enable them to sell the LISAs as"refurbished".
>might be possible.
> 73 de Ray
> On Jan 26, 2006, at 7:30 PM, Jim Scheef wrote:
> > Joe,
> > Well... if the soil is prefectly dry, then it
> > The machinescrushed.
> > might even be in good shape if they were not
> >ago a group of
> > People are recovering amazing things. A few years
> > well-fundedglacier on
> > people dug a Lockeed P-38 (the airplane) out of a
> > Greenland and,So recovering
> > after a large infusion of cash, made it fly again.
> > some Lisaswrote:
> > from a landfill should be a piece of cake!
> > Jim
> > --- Joe Giliberti <starbase89@...>
> >Atari dumped several
> >> I remember reading that sometime in 1984 that
> >> million E.T. 2600 cartidges in a desert landfill.I was recently
> >> read anrecovered several
> >> article about a couple goys who went out and
> >> hundredthem to work. Now,
> >> of these cartridges and were still able to get
> >> I'vaseveral thousand Lisa
> >> also read that sometime in 1989, Apple dumped
> >> computer systems in a desert landfill. Do youthink it would be
> >> possiblethat I'm
> >> to recover any of those in a similar fashion? Not
> >> interested in__________________________________________________
> >> going to Utah, but out of curiousity.
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