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  • evan
    Nov 13, 2005
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      Frank, no worries, your opinion as an InfoAge officer is worth a lot more than
      two cents to us. :)

      We in MARCH already knew each other yesterday but we were glad to share our
      backgrounds and interests with you.

      However, please keep in mind that messages like my trip report on this mailing
      list are only intended as entertaining, informative, and informal updates for
      our general membership. So when I used phrases like turf its only in q casual

      I assure you that MARCH and specifically our officers fully understand that
      most of our collection is actually InfoAges collection/property. We are very
      careful to make this distinction when it really counts, for example, when we
      were organizing things in the basement yesterday. Im sure you understand that
      in the purely colloquial sense we just say our collection for simplicity on
      this mailing list rather than explaining the asterisk each time. We save the
      long explanation for newcomers, etc.

      (Sent from my cell phone so this message is brief, will follow-up with you
      later off-list.)

      - Evan
      --- midatlanticretro@yahoogroups.com <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
      > Hi all;
      > Yes, it was great to get to know everyone - I'm sure that we'll have
      > a lot of fun in the future. Apologies for not being able to stay
      > longer - but at least my meetings at another museum (Sarnoff) were
      > productive... Apologies further for my inablility to remember faces
      > and names - over time I promise to get better!
      > > We previously talked about having our museum space at InfoAge's main
      > > building ("the hotel") but there is too much happening there
      > (events,
      > > construction) and there is too little security. So, per Fred's
      > original
      > > idea, we scoped out a nice part of the second building (I forget
      > what it's
      > > called -- I mean the building directly behind the hotel where the
      > National
      > > Broadcasters Hall of Fame will also be located.)
      > Since I wasn't there, is this what we refer to as "The Library"? -
      > It's the "L" shaped building behind the hotel.
      > > We vaguely had Fred's permission to make this claim,
      > > but he had to leave for a few hours. The conclusion: "It's easier
      > to do now
      > > and ask for forgiveness later than to get permission first."
      > Wrong! You guys have to understand that you are now affiliated with
      > our organization, and that kind or attitude certainly doesn't endear
      > us to MARCH. Fred has a cellphone, as do I. Both of us are available
      > to answer questions or help organize.
      > > We began moving all the heavy computers (lots of DEC, teletypes,
      > servers,
      > > etc.) from the NJBHOF room down the hall to a couple of the rooms
      > in "our"
      > > new turf. We spread out the items across a few of the rooms...
      > each room we
      > > use for storage makes it one less room another group can claim,
      > right?
      > Wrong again. Very Wrong. It's not "your" turf. It's Infoage's turf.
      > We make the final call. You cannot make claims for space that we may
      > have plans for in the future. Additionally, in the future when
      > the "H" buildings come online, everything will probably get moved
      > around in ways that none of us can imagine. Honestly, Evan, this kind
      > of attitude is really going to endanger our relationship. I suggest
      > you think about what your expectations are, and how you think you can
      > fit in. As with the other organizations that are under the
      > Infoage "umbrella", we have to paraphrase JFK:
      > "Ask not, what Infoage can do for you - ask what you can do for
      > Infoage"
      > (O.K., it's a bit of a stretch, but you get the idea....)
      > > One highlight: the vast InfoAge
      > > collection is only LESS THAN HALF of Mr. Grabbe's full collection.
      > The
      > > other half is yet to be transported from Grabbe's home in the
      > Harrisburg, PA
      > > area to InfoAge. Fred is working on setting this up. When the
      > time comes,
      > > he'll need three assistants -- "two to move the collection and one
      > to keep
      > > Mr. Grabbe occupied" -- Fred's words, not mine.
      > As we discussed in the meeting yesterday, Dr. Grabbe is first and
      > foremost an Electical Engineer, and quite honestly, is not into old
      > computers as much as his collection might imply. His focus is on
      > computer design, "packaging" and associated technologies. This means
      > that any kind or oral histories should probably focus on this area.
      > We can get all kinds of info elsewhere on PDP-8's and -11's for
      > example, but where else are we going to going to get a talk about
      > Gene Amdahl's wafer scale integration program (incredible stuff!)?
      > The computer (actually, more of a programmable sequencer) for Mariner
      > 4? Etc. Dr. Grabbe *loves* to get "down and dirty" when talking about
      > the technologies - it's our job to translate a lot of this into
      > understandable English for the public. I suggest that one or two of
      > your folks with EE backgrounds come with you to help probe his mind
      === Message Truncated ===

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