1033RE: [midatlanticretro] what is considered a vintage apple computer?
- Jul 30, 2005This topic has come up many, many, many times before on classiccmp and elsewhere.The debates are always heated and drag on for a long time (let's PLEASE avoid that here). They generally result in a three-pronged agreement: 1., no arbitrary age limit ever works; 2., the computer must be obsolete; 3., it must have been technologically unique when it was new.So an Amiga or an original Mac meet both categories and are definitely vintage -- I'm quite surprised to hear that you feel otherwise. An original IBM PC or a "luggable" computer would also qualify because of their uniqueness when new. But I certainly agree with you about the majority of x86 stuff, except for original 8086 stuff (again, the "unique technology when it was new" category).From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of billdeg@...The last vintage Apple was the IIGS. There is no such thing as a vintage MAC.
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:38 PM
Subject: [midatlanticretro] what is considered a vintage apple computer?
And while we're at it, the IBM AT or newer is not vintage, any Amigas are not
vintage. It does not matter how many years go by, MAC's will never be
vintage computers. There is no sliding time scale where each year a new set of
machines becomes vintage. In short, the vintage era ended for new machine models
that were first released no later than 1987, and mostly before 1985.
That does not mean that I don't save newer interesting computers however, I
just don't call them "vintage".
Will the 1987 Plymough Sundance become a vintage car someday? I think not.
And for making such statements I am standing behind the chicken wire so feel
free to throw your beer bottles at will. I expect differences in opinion.
Thank you very much.
In a message dated 7/30/2005 7:38:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> in my opinion,vintage macs consist of the IIs and
> earlier machines. Some wouldeven balk at stuff that
> late, but I would include the II, IIX, andIIFX in
> that they represent Apples foray into color.Possibly
> there were add on cards for the SE with whichyou
> could drive a big juicy external color monitor(and
> have the mono mini me mac alongside). But thenagain
> the SE may have been released at the same time asthe
> II. And Ill give someone a dollar if they can tellme
> what HMMU stands for :D
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