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  • Pawnfart
    Lindzen, of course, has testified for the oil/coal lobby and IMHO he is probably a sell out. You can t make a Professor s salary and know that the person is
    Message 1 of 702 , Apr 23, 2001
      Lindzen, of course, has testified for the
      oil/coal lobby and IMHO he is probably a sell out. You
      can't make a Professor's salary and know that the
      person is one of the few public figure skeptics and see
      Exxon make 5.2 billion last quarter and not wonder if
      strings are getting pulled. They invested 30 million in
      Cheney and millions more with Bush, so what are a few
      million more to selected publishers and scientists.
      Nothing. Jesus, even a non-scientist like me can put it
      together the paper is such a sham. And it was released
      last January, only making the shill sites recently.
      Anyway, the most important thing to take from me is that
      his data is extremely selective, which leads me to
      this conclusion of selling out, and his inverse ratio
      was taken in the most methane hydrate depleted part
      of the tropical oceans, except perhaps for the
      Mediterranean, which is largely too salty and hot for formation
      (hence the Sahara). And the cause of it is has NOTHING
      to do with convection but the FACT that the warmer
      ocean water is, the less well it conducts. <br><br>If
      you were to take the same measurements over the Gulf
      of Mexico by the Mississippi delta with the same
      temperatures in mind, I promise you the ratio, even if
      inverse, would be less, telling you that methane hydrate
      insulation is a strong positive feedback, and therefore,
      given that methanogens breath CO2, CO2 is a direct,
      modulated biological positive feedback. The proof, again,
      is in the pudding:
      <br><br><a href=http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010420/sc/space_earthshine_dc_1.html target=new>http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010420/sc/space_earthshine_dc_1.html</a> <br><br>Another story showing how cirrus clouds
      and CO2 as a GHG are both reducing light leaving
      earth--the positive feedback. Again, this is despite the
      fact of dam building. Also, Keeling Whorf
      depressurization of methane hydrates is probably not on this
      scale, and there has been an absence of volcanic
      activity that would reduce the phase change temperatures
      of the cirrus clouds. What will be interesting is if
      we are volcano free what recent trend are because
      that would isolate out phase depression of the methane
      hydrates by the sulfates in the oceans, as the sulfates
      get sequestered into the deep ocean sinks below the
      MH stability zone. The only thing missing, then,
      would be the forcings related to cirrus clouds and dam
      activity, to get a good feel for what is going on.
      <br><br><br><a href=http://woodshole.er.usgs.gov/project-pages/hydrates/where.html target=new>http://woodshole.er.usgs.gov/project-pages/hydrates/where.html</a> <br><br>Notice the complete lack of MH fields in
      the area of Lindzen's research. Clearly selective.
    • b1blancer_29501
      On Feb 28th, the Interplanetary Magnetic Field swung to a strong south-pointing orientation. That, coupled with an elevated solar wind speed and density,
      Message 702 of 702 , Mar 1, 2002
        On Feb 28th, the Interplanetary Magnetic Field
        swung to a strong south-pointing orientation. That,
        coupled with an elevated solar wind speed and density,
        triggered a G-1 class geomagnetic storm. The result was
        some high latitude aurora. See this link for a
        photgraph of aurora observed over Quebec :
        <a href=http://www.spaceweather.com/aurora/images/01mar02/Moussette2.jpg target=new>http://www.spaceweather.com/aurora/images/01mar02/Moussette2.jpg</a> . As of right now, there are 3 sunspot regions,
        namely 9839, 9842, and 9845, that appear to be capable
        of producing M-class flares. Regions 9839 and 9842
        are close to rotating out of view over the western
        limb of the solar disk. Sunspot region 9845, however,
        is close to the sun's central meridian. A rather
        large coronal hole is also approaching the sun's
        central meridian, and coming into an Earth-pointing
        position. High speed colar wind gusts are likely around the
        first of next week.<br><br>The current solar and
        geomagnetic conditions are :<br><br>NOAA sunspot number :
        153<br>SFI : 188<br>A index : 10<br>K index : 1<br><br>Solar
        wind speed : 372.3 km/sec<br>Solar wind density : 4.4
        protons/cc<br>Solar wind pressure : 1.1 nPa<br><br>IMF : 8.4
        nT<br>IMF Orientation : 0.7 nT North<br><br>Conditions for
        the last 24 hours : <br>Solar activity was low. The
        geomagnetic field was quiet to unsettled. Stratwarm Alert
        exists Friday.<br><br>Forecast for the next 24 hours
        :<br>Solar activity will be low to moderate. The geomagnetic
        field will be quiet to unsettled.<br><br>Solar Activity
        Forecast :<br>Solar activity is expected to be low to
        moderate for the next three days. Region 9845 is a
        possible source for isolated M-class
        flares.<br><br>Geomagnetic activity forecast :<br>Geomagnetic field activity
        is expected to be mainly quiet to unsettled, until
        the onset of high speed stream effects from a
        recurrent coronal hole begin to develop by day three of the
        forecast period. Isolated active conditions are
        anticipated thereafter.<br><br>Recent significant solar flare
        activity :<br>None
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