[Methane Hydrate Club] Re: Warming Southern Oceans; Fleming's right hand rule/Fred
- Interesting comments.
I would add that with the WESTWARD wind and currents where there is
that EDDY in the Southern Ocean's generally circumpolar EASTWARD
currents and winds, from that arm like reach toward the tail of South
America, that is where B-21 and 22 calved and the rest of the ice
shelf disapeared. Researchers there noted a 5 degree C. increase in
temps, which to me is huge. Once the ice starts to melt the albedo
changes dramatically, and where it changes is in the cracks of the
ice, hastening its breakup.
Low clouds, without overhead cover, I would also add, from cirrus
reduction are also highly reflective. Melting ice might produce
those low clouds . . .
--- In methanehydrateclub@y..., "Ed Boik" <eboik@c...> wrote:
> >>therefore surface temperatures should be increasing over the
> >not decreasing since the cooling reported is occuring mostly
> >the summer months when the sun is out 24/7.
> >More clouds = less solar energy reaching the surface during
> >Less clouds = more solar energy reaching the surface during
> snow has a higher albedo than clouds. If there are less clouds
> snow covered area, the temperatures can absolutly plummet at night
> it takes a great deal of energy to recover to a decent temp.
> is a incredible reflector. Almost all available energy is sent
> space, and any energy left in the snow is emmitted back too. A snow
> covered ground of a cloudy day and night is not as cold.
> you said "As I have been mentioning here, warmer melts the glacial
> ice, and can put cold capping waters to the ENSO cycle. It also
> that induction that generally occurs is stronger, and in this case
> against cirrus formation--which explains the cold interior of
> I say the opposite is true!
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- yep, cirrus clouds are not insulators or reflectors. they are 'window
shades' in respect to heating.
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