Re: Bush administration bombs again
- View SourceFrom a standpoint of adding energy to a hurricane, the bomb is not
significant. Perhaps the idea is if there is a low pressure area if
you add air to that low pressure in the form of a solid that burns to
a gas, you have a higher pressure, lower wind gradiants, and the
hurricane weakens. The idea is simple--but flawed.
This discussion on adding pressure ignores that in the process of
adding air you are also adding chemistry and particles to the air.
This is what I can tell you based on what I am studying--from my
eyes. Hurricane Andrew was a 5 mesovortice hurricane. It is a
signifant hurricane from an ELECTRICAL standpoint because it occurred
shortly after a volcano called Mt. Pinatubo blew and added huge
amounts of SOx chemistry into the atmosphere. The chemistry is added
to the forming cloud droplets, and when those droplets are in a
magnetic field, the ions tend to migrate to the poles of their
microfields, and that changes the droplet morphology--how added water
molecules bond to the droplet. Then that impacts phase change rates,
and on larger scales, how clouds behave. The bomb would have the
exact wrong impact, IMHO, likely bringing winds down closer to the
surface. A hurricane called Bret which occurred a few years after
Andrew had the same landfalling barametric pressure, but its surface
winds inland near its core were about 75 mph--with winds aloft much
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Mike Doran"
> US to test MOAB, *Mother of all Bombs* on Hurricanes---In an effort
> to combat the devastating effects of category 5 hurricanes, New
> Spy has learned from well connected DoD sources, that the USin
> Department of Homeland Security has teamed with the US Air Force,
> a secret mission called "Operation Dark Sky". Dark Sky's purpose isGulf
> to test the effectiveness of the newly developed MOAB fuel air
> explosive on the destructive eye wall of selected hurricanes, in an
> effort to disrupt the central core's development and diminish its
> intensity. The program will begin this summer, primarily in the
> of Mexico, and extend through the 2006 hurricane season. ---The GBU-the
> 43/B (MOAB), "Mother of all bombs" was developed in the run-up to
> Iraq war, but was never used in battle. The 21,000 pound fuel airis
> bomb works by first dispersing an aerosol cloud of tritonal, which
> then set off by a secondary explosion. The force of the explosionconventional
> creates a massive pressure wave unlike that of any other
> bomb, and makes it an ideal platform for US scientists to test onthe
> different types of atmospheric conditions created in a hurricane. ---
> The initial program calls for five GBU-43's to be dropped in 30Specially
> minute intervals on the leading eye wall of the hurricane.
> modified C-130 aircraft will deliver the satellite-guided bombs inunless
> altitudes ranging from 8,000 to 30,000 feet, the effect will be
> measured by hurricane hunter planes and weather satellites. The
> secret operation will not be disclosed to the American people
> it is a complete success, but that might not be known for months orintrigue
> perhaps even years of study, which will certainly add to the
> and speculation surrounding "Dark Sky", America's big littlesecret.
> Unbelievable stupidity.
> This again shows the ignorance of this administration--considering
> that hurricanes are about baratropical features (pressure, heat)
> the could microphysics are organized electrically. Paradoxically,the
> added chemistry of this bomb inside the center of the storm maylater
> impact cloud microphysics to make the storm WORSE in terms ofsurface
> winds and intensities!
> Again, in the DC field the super cooled cloud droplet will add
> additional water vapor molecules based on in part the migration of
> ions by their size, shape, mass and charge. When you add the
> chemistry of the bomb to the cloud levels, you are going to change
> how quickly the DC field can self organize the cloud droplets . . .
- View Source--- In email@example.com, "Mike Doran"
>I tend to agree with you. Considering the energies at work in even a
> From a standpoint of adding energy to a hurricane, the bomb is not
> significant. Perhaps the idea is if there is a low pressure area if
> you add air to that low pressure in the form of a solid that burns to
> a gas, you have a higher pressure, lower wind gradiants, and the
> hurricane weakens. The idea is simple--but flawed.
minimal hurricane, I don't see how a bomb like the MOAB could have the
slightest effect. For that matter, I doubt even a nuclear weapon
would have much effect at all. I'm not familiar with the source you
quoted, but to be completely honest, I don't believe a word of it.