## Re: Ground cables and EMF from ocean cur

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• Sorry I couldn t get back to you sooner. Maxwell s equations state that anelectric charge gives rise to electric fields, a changing electric field
Message 1 of 702 , Aug 9, 2001
Sorry I couldn't get back to you
sooner.<br><br>Maxwell's equations state that anelectric charge gives rise
to electric fields, a changing electric field
creates magnetic fields, and a changing magnetic field
creates electric fields. Electricity and magnetism are
just two sides of the same coin, and if you specify
all the electric charges and how they're moving, you
can calculate all the fields (and hence, all the
forces). Hence, assuming there are very strong voltages in
the atmosphere, then earth's magnetic field value for
the magnetic field on the surface, say, of the Gulf
Stream ABOVE the cables measuring that microvolt is
wrong because you merely use the strength of the
overall earth's magnetic field and not any of the fields
created by what is going on in the air, and so is your
current calculations are off as well.<br><br>The
observational data is very strong--more negative lightning
strikes. Further, there is Lindzen's data, although
misleading and all of that, once we start seeing the
mechanism involved, the fact that his data excludes El Nino
and biological activity is GOOD as a sort of
control.<br><br>Anyway, no matter what the voltages are at the bottom of
the oceans where the cables were laid, and what low
levels of induction they measured, <br>they were
relative in all likelihood to merely the field of the
earth. On the surface, OTOH, there is a very big problem
with 1)flaring and 2) <br>all the other electrical
forces (I have seen 700 page books). The given constant
here, however, is a moving conductor and biology that
lives <br>inside it that has resistive properties. The
<br>ASSUMPTION that only the earth's magnetic field is then
involved in the induction is wrong. But <br>the very fact
that there are large voltages in the air changes the
magnetic field and intensifies it, even if we don't know
it what <br>direction. Yet we also know things like
convection and lightning strikes <br>are correlated. And
since we are seeing this convection over these western
parts of gyres, and over west moving currents, it seems
to me <br>that there is a feedback mechanism going
on. <br><br>Ekman's drift. This too is significant if
we are <br>talking about electrical currents making
electrical fields which in turn make electrical
currents--dynamically within the moving conducter of the moving
currents. So when a lightning strikes, it changes the field
strength and ultimately the direction and scope of low
frequancy wide area charges as that charge gets
distributed! The ocean currents matter!<br><br>And I again
point to Lindzen's paper, because the data there is
pretty solid. Sure there is ambiant winds moving the
cirrus about and all, but <br>there is a clear pattern
that colder currents, that happen to be moving WEST,
enhanced cirrus clouds. Until I see any kind of rational
arguement explaining this, I will go with my theory, and
build on it circumstantially, bit by bit.
• On Feb 28th, the Interplanetary Magnetic Field swung to a strong south-pointing orientation. That, coupled with an elevated solar wind speed and density,
Message 702 of 702 , Mar 1, 2002
On Feb 28th, the Interplanetary Magnetic Field
swung to a strong south-pointing orientation. That,
coupled with an elevated solar wind speed and density,
triggered a G-1 class geomagnetic storm. The result was
some high latitude aurora. See this link for a
photgraph of aurora observed over Quebec :
<a href=http://www.spaceweather.com/aurora/images/01mar02/Moussette2.jpg target=new>http://www.spaceweather.com/aurora/images/01mar02/Moussette2.jpg</a> . As of right now, there are 3 sunspot regions,
namely 9839, 9842, and 9845, that appear to be capable
of producing M-class flares. Regions 9839 and 9842
are close to rotating out of view over the western
limb of the solar disk. Sunspot region 9845, however,
is close to the sun's central meridian. A rather
large coronal hole is also approaching the sun's
central meridian, and coming into an Earth-pointing
position. High speed colar wind gusts are likely around the
first of next week.<br><br>The current solar and
geomagnetic conditions are :<br><br>NOAA sunspot number :
153<br>SFI : 188<br>A index : 10<br>K index : 1<br><br>Solar
wind speed : 372.3 km/sec<br>Solar wind density : 4.4
protons/cc<br>Solar wind pressure : 1.1 nPa<br><br>IMF : 8.4
nT<br>IMF Orientation : 0.7 nT North<br><br>Conditions for
the last 24 hours : <br>Solar activity was low. The
geomagnetic field was quiet to unsettled. Stratwarm Alert
exists Friday.<br><br>Forecast for the next 24 hours
:<br>Solar activity will be low to moderate. The geomagnetic
field will be quiet to unsettled.<br><br>Solar Activity
Forecast :<br>Solar activity is expected to be low to
moderate for the next three days. Region 9845 is a
possible source for isolated M-class
flares.<br><br>Geomagnetic activity forecast :<br>Geomagnetic field activity
is expected to be mainly quiet to unsettled, until
the onset of high speed stream effects from a
recurrent coronal hole begin to develop by day three of the
forecast period. Isolated active conditions are
anticipated thereafter.<br><br>Recent significant solar flare
activity :<br>None
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