## Re: [Methane Hydrate Club] Wind orientation and SOI--strong solar activity causes general cirrus enhancement

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• Mike, let me go through and ask a few simple questions please. On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 06:51:14 -0000 Mike Doran writes:
Message 1 of 3 , Dec 11, 2002
Mike, let me go through and ask a few simple questions please.

On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 06:51:14 -0000 "Mike Doran <mike@...>"
<mike@...> writes:
Think of the earth as a giant magnet. But don't get north and south
confused--it is easy to do when you try to apply Fleming's laws or if
with vector calculus.
Mike-- No I can't, but why would I need to determine vectors? I
assume these are angles from set or possibly Geological North axis lines.
Walter
Say you are in the woods. You have a bar magnet called a compass. It
points you north, or more correctly, it points you towards eastern
Mike, The last time I considered it (Magnetic North)it was going toward
the North ice cap and was about two days away from going under it. I was
contemplating that it might make a difference in the lines of force
available to drive compasses if it was covered by an insulator. Evidently
it did not make much difference.

The magnetic north pole is hardly fixed, on the geographic
north pole or otherwise and it can move 40 kms in a day! So, there
you are, looking at your magnet and it points in the direction of
north. Your compass is a bar magnet that indeed has a north pole--
that points north.
Mike, I do not know what shift you are talking about when you talk about
shifting from North to South. Is it an air stream? and if so how high is
it. or Where is it?

Since opposites attract--it means the north pole is a SOUTH pole!!!!
Otherwise your compass would point south. Get it?

Alright. The past weekend the solar wind moved northward.

Mike, OK where is this solar wind and where does it go to when it shifts
from North to South. Does it move toward earth from the Sun and shifts
to hit the earth in a more North or south spot which it then takes to go
toward that pole?
It remained
elevated as it has been the past couple weeks, but it moved from a
southerly orientation to a more northerly. When it was southerly
there were some northern lights dancing in the sky, but they have
subsisted with the change. The SOI was likewise strongly negative,

Mike, What is this SOI and where is it moving or positioned? and why
should it be stronger negative when the Solar Wind is also going
Southerly? Walter

and even though the solar wind remained strong, now the SOI is
substantially less negative. What happened?

The earth's EMF became distorted with the southern directed wind
where positive ions raced strongly toward a negative pole--the south
pole.

Mike, EMF? What and where is it? and why shouldn't it always race to a
negative charged pole?

Now the strong positive charges are moving to the positively
charged north--and the SOI dropped.

Mike, OK WHY did it shift? And what if anything
could the SOI have to do with it. Is it driven by the SOI or does it
drive the SOI? Walter

It's all electrical, baby.

Mike, You know I believe it is all electrical, but if we don't know
where the current is coming from and why, we will not be able to change
or intervene, or benefit the situation until we can. Interventions I have
already done are predicated upon this kind of reasoning. When you
predict a change for a given action and it happens, it is pretty strong
proof that the reasoning you are using is essentially proven by prima
facia evidence. This kind of evidence does not need a large group of
happenings to determine if they are really doing what they are doing.
Once it happens and you know the changes that brought it about. It is
PROVEN! Few "scientific" ideas are really established. Gravity and earth
rotation forces being heavy in this are. byw, I was recently mailed a
copy of "The hunt for
Zero Point gravity" by Nick Cook, the Aviation Editor of "Janes Defense
Weekly" I have tried to contact him in regard to a motor I have plans
for that runs on magnet energy only, No electricity needed. He has not
replied.

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• ... shifts ... I think I can answer this part. The solar wind, which is a stream of particles, carries a magnetic field along with it. Please do not ask me
Message 2 of 3 , Dec 11, 2002
> Mike, OK where is this solar wind and where does it go to when it
shifts
> from North to South. Does it move toward earth from the Sun and shifts
> to hit the earth in a more North or south spot which it then takes to go
> toward that pole?

I think I can answer this part. The solar wind, which is a stream of
particles, carries a magnetic field along with it. Please do not ask
me how that works. I have no idea. Anyway, think of the solar wind
as a bunch of tiny bar magnets flying towards earth. Now, here's
where it may get a little confusing. The Earth's magnetic NORTH pole
is actually at the SOUTH geographic pole, as Mike said. So, if the
tiny little bar magnets of the solar wind strike Earth's magnetic
field with their NORTH pole pointing towards Earth's NORTH MAGNETIC
pole, which is actually the SOUTH geographic pole, they will have the
same alignment as Earth's magnetic field, and have the effect of
reinforcing it. This will enhance Earth's protection against the
solar wind, and therefore supress geomagnetic activity.

However, if the solar wind arrives with its NORTH pole pointing
towards the Earth's SOUTH maagnetic pole, which is at the NORTH
geographic pole, they will be aligned OPPOSITE to Earth's magnetic
field. This will have the effect of weakening the magnetic field, and
allow the solar wind to penetrate deeper into the magnetic field.
What happens then is that you have electrons accelerated down Earth's
magnetic field lines, which come crashing down at the poles. This
causes geomagnetic storm activity, and aurora.

The north or south pointing orientation can vary in intensity, and is
measured in nano-Telsas.

Now, Those little solar wind magnets move around through three
dimensions, and can arrive end-on, or perpendicular to Earth's
magnetic field lines (therefore having no effect), or exactly aligned
with Earth's magnetic field lines, or an infite number of orientations
in between. There's a fairly complicated formula that is used to
calculate the net effect on Earth's magnetic field depending on the
exact three-dimensional magnetic orientation of the solar wind, and
the output of that formula is the IMF Orientation that you see in my
solar activity reports.

There, clear as concrete?
• Great way of talking about it there, David. I notice with tonight s SOI (southern oscillation index) (think ENSO winds, not SSTs) is around 12 and slowly
Message 3 of 3 , Dec 11, 2002
Great way of talking about it there, David.

I notice with tonight's SOI (southern oscillation index) (think ENSO
winds, not SSTs) is around 12 and slowly dropping but more of
interest BOTH East and West in the trop Pac the BP rose . . . with
the lowered solar activity.

--- In methanehydrateclub@yahoogroups.com, "David <b1blancer1@e...>"
<b1blancer1@e...> wrote:
>
> > Mike, OK where is this solar wind and where does it go to when it
> shifts
> > from North to South. Does it move toward earth from the Sun and
shifts
> > to hit the earth in a more North or south spot which it then
takes to go
> > toward that pole?
>
> I think I can answer this part. The solar wind, which is a stream
of
> particles, carries a magnetic field along with it. Please do not
> me how that works. I have no idea. Anyway, think of the solar wind
> as a bunch of tiny bar magnets flying towards earth. Now, here's
> where it may get a little confusing. The Earth's magnetic NORTH
pole
> is actually at the SOUTH geographic pole, as Mike said. So, if the
> tiny little bar magnets of the solar wind strike Earth's magnetic
> field with their NORTH pole pointing towards Earth's NORTH MAGNETIC
> pole, which is actually the SOUTH geographic pole, they will have
the
> same alignment as Earth's magnetic field, and have the effect of
> reinforcing it. This will enhance Earth's protection against the
> solar wind, and therefore supress geomagnetic activity.
>
> However, if the solar wind arrives with its NORTH pole pointing
> towards the Earth's SOUTH maagnetic pole, which is at the NORTH
> geographic pole, they will be aligned OPPOSITE to Earth's magnetic
> field. This will have the effect of weakening the magnetic field,
and
> allow the solar wind to penetrate deeper into the magnetic field.
> What happens then is that you have electrons accelerated down
Earth's
> magnetic field lines, which come crashing down at the poles. This
> causes geomagnetic storm activity, and aurora.
>
> The north or south pointing orientation can vary in intensity, and
is
> measured in nano-Telsas.
>
> Now, Those little solar wind magnets move around through three
> dimensions, and can arrive end-on, or perpendicular to Earth's
> magnetic field lines (therefore having no effect), or exactly
aligned
> with Earth's magnetic field lines, or an infite number of
orientations
> in between. There's a fairly complicated formula that is used to
> calculate the net effect on Earth's magnetic field depending on the
> exact three-dimensional magnetic orientation of the solar wind, and
> the output of that formula is the IMF Orientation that you see in my
> solar activity reports.
>
> There, clear as concrete?
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