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Re: no effort is doomed [be aware of false gurus]

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  • satkartar7
    ... I am learning from everyone and wish the wise ones to post and I wish I woundn t bump into the socalled gurus thanks, Karta
    Message 1 of 6 , Jul 5, 2003
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      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham@a...> wrote:
      > > > From "Who Am I?" by Sri Ramana Maharshi from The Collected Works
      > (Sri
      > > > Ramanashram)
      > > >
      > > > 1. Who am I.
      > > >
      > > > The gross body which is composed of the seven humours, I am
      > not;
      > > > the five cognitive sense organs, viz. the senses of hearing,
      > touch,
      > > > sight, taste, and smell, which apprehend their respective
      > objects,
      > > > viz. sound, touch, colour, taste, and odour, I am not; the five
      > > > conative sense organs, viz. the organs of speech, locomotion,
      > > > grasping, excretion and procreation, which have as their
      > respective
      > > > functions, speaking, moving, grasping, excreting and enjoying, I
      > am
      > > > not; the five vital airs, prana, etc., which perform
      > respectively
      > > > the functionns of in-breathing, etc., I am not; even the mind
      > which
      > > > thinks, I am not; the nescience too, which is endowed only with
      > the
      > > > residual impressions of objects, and in which there are no
      > objects
      > > > and not functionings, I am not.
      > > >
      > > > 2. If I am none of these, then who am I?
      > > >
      > > > After negating all of the above mentioned as 'not
      > Hi Karta:
      >
      > I think it is a worthwhile distinction to make.
      >
      > >
      > > I was pondering on, that it is harmful
      > > to stop the vichara premature and relax
      > > into a stance of guru-dom etc
      >
      > I see. Yes, the abidance is the beautiful part of life. No reason
      > to stop it.
      >
      > >
      > > [still on the page with Ganagak and
      > > deluded guru-doms]
      > >
      > > as for me was made clear, that for her
      > > the MOST important thing is to be
      > > ACKNOWLEDGED and not to
      > > contribute
      > > and I feel bad that she is not
      > > posting anymore her wisdom and
      > > undertsanding
      >
      > We all have things to learn. I have been recently thinking of the
      > group dynamic and how it is nice to have people around who can help
      > with understanding. What I mean is that in a group, roles are
      > assumed in relationship to other roles. The roles shift from person
      > to person sometimes.
      >
      > The teacher becomes the student or the "far thinker" needs to be
      > brought up short by the academician. The calm one and the agitated
      > one, the experienced and in...well anyway.
      >
      > Refusal to change roles is a little irritating to me. But people can
      > do as they wish.
      >



      I am learning from everyone

      and wish the wise ones to post

      and I wish I woundn't bump into the
      socalled gurus

      thanks, Karta


      > Love
      > Bobby G.
      > >
      > >
      > > love, Karta
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