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  • texasbg2000
    ... wrote: Thanks Greg, Bobby ... to being considered the author of the Vedas, Vyasa is also credited as the author of the Mahabharata, from which
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      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Gregory Goode
      <goode@d...> wrote:

      Thanks Greg,
      Bobby

      > Hey Bobby,
      >
      > I'm not sure which work Sw. Dyananda was referring to. In addition
      to being considered the author of the Vedas, Vyasa is also credited
      as the author of the Mahabharata, from which the Bhagavad Gita was
      excerpted. They are both composed in slokas or verses that are chant-
      able, memorable, and even hummable! There are even traditionally
      authorized melodies for the different works.
      >
      > The BG does say very deeply insightful things about all of advaita
      vedanta, but requires a lot of unpacking. This unpacking,
      explication, is what the teacher in the orthodox advaita tradition is
      there for. They discuss every aspect of the teaching, but only as
      glosses on slokas in the text. This is in stark contrast to the neo-
      advaita satsang movment, in which texts and written works are often
      frowned upon as overly stressing the intellect and serving as a
      substitute for what they call "direct experience."
      >
      > Among the orthodox advaitic unpackers of the Bhagavad Gita text
      whose teachings are easy to find in the US, Swami Dyananda and Swami
      Chimayananda are some of the best.
      >
      > --Greg
      >
      >
      > On 6/28/03 02:04 pm "texasbg2000" (Bigbobgraham@a...) wrote:
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      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Gregory Goode
      <BR>
      > <goode@d...> wrote:<BR>
      > > <html><body><BR>
      > > Hi Bobby,<BR>
      > > <BR>
      > > I have a modest collection of Swami Dyananda's written and
      recorded <BR>
      > works.  And I read this interview when it was first published.  <BR>
      > Nowhere in this interview or in any of Swami Dyananda's teachings
      <BR>
      > that I'm familiar with does he talk about the Yoga Sutra.  Or <BR>
      > Patanjali, as I can recall.<BR>
      > > <BR>
      > > The Vyasa he refers to in this interview is the figure often <BR>
      > called "Veda Vyasa," the one to whom the original Vedas have been
      <BR>
      > attributed.  Rgveda, Yajurveda, Atharvaveda, and Samaveda. 
      Vedantic <BR>
      > study treats of these to some extent, but mostly the Upanishads,
      the <BR>
      > Bhagavad Gita, and the Brahma Sutra.  The work that Swami Dyananda
      <BR>
      > mentioned teaching every morning is the Mandukya Upanishad, often
      <BR>
      > thought to be the most sophisticated presentation of advaita among
      <BR>
      > the Upanishads, and the only one that can make sense without
      relying <BR>
      > on religious faith.  It's a very great book, in fact I had it on my
      <BR>
      > altar years ago when I was looking for a guru and couldn't find
      one!  <BR>
      > All the other Upanishads use the notion of a creator or deity to
      some <BR>
      > extent.  <BR>
      > > <BR>
      > > Hari OM!<BR>
      > > <BR>
      > > --Greg<BR>
      > <BR>
      > <BR>
      > Thanks Greg.  You are a valuable resource.  Do you happen to know
      <BR>
      > what is the book of sutra which entirely analyzes Advaita Vedanta
      by <BR>
      > Veda Vyasa? He referred to it after he referred to the Mandukya <BR>
      > Upanishad.<BR>
      > <BR>
      > Love<BR>
      > Bobby G.<BR>
      > <BR>
      > <BR>
      > > <BR>
      > > <BR>
      > > On 6/28/03 12:28 pm  "texasbg2000" (Bigbobgraham@a...) wrote:<BR>
      > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "steve"
      <BR><BR>
      > > <spirit5562000@y...> wrote:<BR><BR>
      > > What caught my eye was the following paragraph about what I take
      is <BR>
      > <BR><BR>
      > > the "Yoga Sutra"-<BR><BR>
      > > <BR><BR>
      > > !~~~~AC: Before Shankara there were no written commentaries?
      <BR><BR>
      > > <BR><BR>
      > > SD: There were some. In fact, what I'm teaching every morning now
      <BR>
      > is <BR><BR>
      > > a commentary on one of the Upanishads, by Shankara's own
      teacher's <BR>
      > <BR><BR>
      > > teacher, Gaudapada. There are a few others also, Vyasa's sutras.
      <BR>
      > <BR><BR>
      > > He is apparently giving the authorship of "Yoga Sutra" usually
      <BR>
      > given <BR><BR>
      > > to Patanjali to the sage Vyasa.  Feuerstein in his commentary on
      <BR>
      > <BR><BR>
      > > Patanjali frreely uses Vyasa as a translator of 'Yoga Sutra' and
      <BR>
      > even <BR><BR>
      > > mentions that some attribute the works to Vyasa.<BR><BR>
      > > <BR><BR>
      > > Of most interest to me is the idea from a foremost authority on
      <BR><BR>
      > > Advaita that the 'Yoga Sutra' analyzes the whole of Advaita <BR>
      > Vedanta.<BR><BR>
      > > <BR>
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