Re: [Meditation Society of America] Re: In realization the mind is dead/ to Bruce
- On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:06:35 -0000 "mlcanow" <mlcanow@...> writes:
> Hi Bruce,No, thought is activity
> haven't you found out that the use of the word MIND, brings about
> much confussion? And when we say thought, it is more easy to
> understand. But again, there is the confussion about giving the
> name "thought" to an image (as abstract as it can be) or to a symbol
> when there are no words to define it.
> So when you say that counsciousness observes the thoughts,
> is there any sense of action there?
but the observer merely
abides, no effort.
i mean, the one who observes, the
> observation itself, and the thought (object in this case) observed?Thought gets involved
again when we share the
observation with words,
images, and/or symbols
-- but in the moment of
observer and the
observed are on. Iow,
consciousness is its
contents in the moment.
>I often say "Realization
> I know this is all a matter of definitions, but i find it
> difficult to express ideas about mind.
is easy -- after all, it's
an unearned, undeserved gift
-- it's *communication*
that's really difficult!"
>That's as good a delineation
> In my case, i see Consciousness as the reality, as the base, as the
> source, and mind as all the rest.
as anyone else's --
maya, energy-matter, all
descriptors of the last
quasi-dichotomy before all
such distinctions vanish in
the equivalence seen by
realizers and described
mathematically by Sri Albert
Einstein as "e = mc^2."
> Everything that arises from theThought is the parent of
> first entity that arises and then observes, the I. I do not limit
> the word mind to thought, instead i say that even the images,
> abstract or not, are mind.
> What is your input here?
all language, symbolism,
and imagery -- after all,
language is an elaborate
symbolic system, and a
symbol is essentially a
> Love,Right back atcha,
> maria luisa
mi hermana -- Bruce
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