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  • satkartar7
    ... I wondered about this Jeff, I don t think, that your daily activities and the succsess of your seminars will be effected one way or an other Your offering
    Message 1 of 16 , Jun 3 4:50 PM
      > Thanks, cj.
      >
      > Sarlo asked for the rating
      > from member of his group -
      > after a year of dealing with
      > my sometimes good-natured
      > and sometimes not so
      > good-natured antagonism.
      >
      > I have challenged the concept
      > and been a major provocateur of
      > the GR site membership since I
      > first visited the group about a
      > year ago. That rate and I say
      > rating is bogus (to use a favorite
      > Sarlo term) at best. I've about
      > played my hand out there.
      >
      > I never used the term Guru,
      > before coming upon Sarlo's
      > site,

      I wondered about this Jeff, I don't
      think, that your daily activities
      and the succsess of your seminars
      will be effected one way or an other

      Your offering is honest and great

      love, Karta

      > and while I have been
      > incredibly blessed and graced
      > with a powerful transformation
      > that saved by life, and began
      > speaking and "teaching" about
      > it almost immediately, the guru
      > persona is relatively new.
      >
      > The tie to meditation is that
      > this happened while meditating.
      > What happened to me in the
      > midst of meditation and the
      > reports from Near-Death
      > Experiencers are startlingly
      > similar.
      >
      > I wondered about this for
      > years, before coming a report
      > of yogis who went into deep
      > meditation and all but suspended
      > breathing, which decreases the
      > brain activity and its demand
      > for "energy" or "sugar" so much
      > that is one of the methods used
      > that is frequently precedent to
      > bringing on a nirvikalpa samadhi.
      >
      > I went on to study meditation,
      > hypnosis, relaxation techniques,
      > raja yoga, and marketing communications
      > looking for ways to share this most
      > incredible experience. I'll
      > stop here.
      >
      > Thanks for generous review.
      >
      > Best,
      >
      > Jeff
      >
      > > > Well, this once humble
      > > > and retiring meditation
      > > > teacher, tucked quietly
      > > > in the northeast corner
      > > > of the US, has gone and
      > > > done it.
      > > >
      > > > Those of you who have
      > > > dual citizenship with
      > > > this group and other groups
      > > > on the Yahoo! circuit may
      > > > know this, already.
      > > >
      > > > On the Yahoo! Group called
      > > > Guru Ratings, moderated
      > > > by "Sarlo", I have snarled
      > > > and growled at the very
      > > > premise for about a year.
      > > >
      > > > Finally, Sarlo himself
      > > > has gone into a snarl,
      > > > and posted a poll to "rate"
      > > > the irascible persona that
      > > > I bring into their midst.
      > > > (If you were here in the
      > > > days of the Jeff and Judi
      > > > show, you've seen pretty
      > > > much the full monty).
      > > >
      > > > What has this to do with
      > > > meditation? I'm a long-term
      > > > meditator (27 years and
      > > > counting - I'm ready to
      > > > stop counting) and it will
      > > > be interesting to see how
      > > > many rate according to
      > > > what they have seen of me
      > > > at that site, and how many
      > > > actually look behind the
      > > > mask (persona) to read
      > > > information on my website
      > > > and the files I have posted
      > > > here and there about my
      > > > lineage (as a guru) and
      > > > my method (as a meditation
      > > > teacher and motivational
      > > > coach) and my enlightenment
      > > > journey.
      > > >
      > > > Meditation may not do much
      > > > to change the outward look
      > > > and personality, but it does,
      > > > in the world according to me,
      > > > brings about dramatic emotional,
      > > > psychological, and even possibly
      > > > cellular-level changes.
      > > > I am also convinced that it
      > > > improves coordination and
      > > > physical grace, that it
      > > > not only relieve stress, but
      > > > allow the meditator to take
      > > > life's bump and grinds in
      > > > stride and with equanimity
      > > > in great part.
      > > >
      > > > Does bias effect fair judgment
      > > > and intellect? Is it just
      > > > an ego battle? Will this
      > > > poll really answer any of
      > > > that?
      > > >
      > > > I'll be back with results
      > > > when they are published.
      > > > Just thought this might be
      > > > of interest to meditators
      > > > and spiritual seekers.
      > > >
      > > > Meanwhile....
      > > >
      > > > OM
      > >
      > > Hi Jeff,
      > >
      > > I don't know what to make of Sarlo's rating system. At first I
      > > thought that the site was meant only as a conversational piece for
      > > his group, apparently it has a Wider attraction.
      > > Indicative of the wider attraction is the number of folks who seem to
      > > take it seriously.
      > >
      > > I've visited the "bud" site only once and it seems that something
      > > Major is missing: there is not input by the disciples/students of the
      > > the "rated" Guru.
      > >
      > > Jeff, so you don't think it peculiar that you invite people to rate
      > > you when your function here is not that of a Guru?
      > >
      > > Who better to rate a Teacher/Guru then those who have Worked with the
      > > Guru, those who have been with the Guru through Thick and
      > > Thin....those who can Conclude either Yes, I have been benefitted by
      > > my association with HIM/HER or NO, I have not benefitted from being
      > > with HIM/HER.
      > > My questions to such a Disciple what then be ....so tell me, What
      > > have you learned and How have you changed, progressed and developed.
      > >
      > > Some here may say "Yes, Jeff is Insightful, Industrious, Experienced
      > > and Funny"....the same can be said about Others who have not "taken"
      > > up the Guru mantle.
      > >
      > > Perhaps before we do this "little" Guru rating thing, isn't it fair
      > > to Ask...."where are your Disciples (those who call you "Guru") and
      > > how do They rate you?"
      > >
      > > At this point, all I can rate is your Participation/Contribution as a
      > > Group Member (here and there): I cast my Vote for you...3 buds =
      > > an "exceptional" Member. ;)
      > >
      > >
      > > cjl
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