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  • Onniko
    That seems like the perfect answer to me, Maria Luisa. Thank you for writing that :o). ... life. ... enough. ... But ... etc, ... natural ... life. ... their
    Message 1 of 48 , Jun 2, 2003
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      That seems like the perfect answer to me, Maria Luisa. Thank you for
      writing that :o).

      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "mlcanow"
      <mlcanow@y...> wrote:
      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Onniko"
      > <onniko@y...> wrote:
      > > How many children do you have, Gene? What are some ways you have
      > to
      > > make them feel that they aren't owned by you?
      > Hi Oniko,
      > since i agree with Gene, and having had the experience of being a
      > mother, i will step in here.
      > First we must understand that there are no ownerships in this
      > What there are, are responsible actions. It is most natural that a
      > mother acts in protection and guidance of her children. This is a
      > Natural Law for survival. Just accepting this fact should be
      > The feelings of love that born form a parent to his/her child, and
      > vicevs. are part of the same thing. It is even, in its basic way,
      > one of the purest love feelings that tend to arise from humans.
      > some people, in their sense of lack of love and acceptance, even
      > for/from themselves, pretend to feel some kind of completion among
      > the pertainance to each other. If we begin to understand the
      > difference between real love and attachment, then we will see that
      > mostly what we call love, really is not. Detachment is the main
      > thing here. But how can we ask for detachment when we need so many
      > things, relationships, commitments, achieved goals, importance,
      > for us to feel complete?
      > When you are detached from your children, you let them make
      > exchanges of love with others: teachers, sitters, other family
      > members, friends. You do not feel jealousy.
      > When you let them decide some things by themselves, you let them
      > know that they are separate entities within the functioning of
      > When you explain them the things they are able to understand, they
      > begin to discriminate by themselves. When you let them spend some
      > time far from your direct control, they begin to learn to be
      > separated, they have to solve things by themselves. When special
      > situations happen, that need your direct attention, and you allow
      > sombody else to take care of them, they learn that you aren't
      > owner.
      > When parents are separated or divorced, when they are with one of
      > them, the other shall remain appart, letting things happen between
      > children and each parent.
      > When you act as not being owned, then you are making them
      > better the role of each one.
      > But the best of all is much communication. Touching, caring,
      > listening, talking, playing, working together.
      > So long as the parent understands the issue of ownership, he/she
      > will be more able to transmit this to the child. Being it, living
      > it, is the best way of transmission. And just allowing things to
      > happen. Our children came to live their own lives, not ours, nor
      > do the things we would have liked to do and could not. They are
      > our continuity. They are the continuity of Life, and have their
      > role to play here. Let us help them to find this role by
      > if we can, if not, just let it be.
      > Love,
      > maria luisa
    • Jason Fishman
      ... Yes, the best way to learn any software is trial and error (hands on). I can help you with how the program operates but your the one that has to put it to
      Message 48 of 48 , Jun 3, 2003
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        --- satkartar7 <mi_nok@...> wrote:
        > > > What would you like to know about web design? I
        > know
        > > > the technical stuff, the networking, server side
        > apps
        > > > and some basic html. It's the way certain
        > programs
        > > > call out there functions that gets me. I'm a
        > hard line
        > > > designer, with lots of technical stuff, but I
        > lack
        > > > greatly in the artist "soft" technique. The
        > piece I
        > > > did for the inner traveler was the first time I
        > picked
        > > > up the creative side in some time. You may have
        > a good
        > > > resource between Bobby and I, if you wish you
        > can
        > > > e-mail me anytime :)
        > > >
        > > > Peace and Love
        > >
        > > Me too. I learned the abstract visual elements
        > from a book on
        > > compostion by Steven Friend. There is an enormous
        > body of knowledge
        > > about how to construct a visual image with
        > interest and balance. A
        > > lot you would never think of. Unfortunately
        > people lack the belief
        > > that is is necessary a lot of the time.
        > >
        > > Visual impact is a study in itself.
        > >
        > thank you both Jason and Bobby, I'll
        > e-mail in privi then
        > I am also reading the adobe photoshop
        > but this is not easy to learn from
        > books, I'll have to go back to school
        > love, Karta

        Yes, the best way to learn any software is trial and
        error (hands on). I can help you with how the program
        operates but your the one that has to put it to use in
        a functional way!

        Peace and Love

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