- How many children do you have, Gene? What are some ways you have to
make them feel that they aren't owned by you?
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Gene Poole"
> "mlcanow" <mlcanow@y...> wrote:relationships,
> > I am finding out a difficulty in sustaining personal
> > others than the family ones i already carry throughout my lifesince
> > the past.relate
> > And what becomes difficult, is that the one that pretends to
> > to me, expects some kind of ownership in an exclusive person toamong
> > person way. Once there are no parameters appart from those that
> > arise from an inner feeling of natural and spontaneous action,
> > relationships are great for a while, but they become limiting
> > time.
> > Love,
> > ml
> Hi ML...
> Ownership... yes.
> Perhaps if our cultures changed to the extent
> that parents are not seen to 'own' children,
> when the children become adults, they will not
> expect any 'ownership' of each-other.
> The issue of ownership is one of those special
> pieces of our enormous burden of cultural
> conditioning, which becomes red-hot, and serves
> to make a lot of the otherwise invisible conditioning,
> visible. The 'family way' is often or always toxic.
> Once a man or woman refuses to be 'owned',
> a lot of other issues come up, also. The one
> who refuses to be owned, or to own another,
> must eventually be identified as a rebel or
> Much of our 'spiritual work' is to simply
> scrape off the deep overburden of cultural
> conditioning, to eventually expose the actual
> 'thing' that we are. I wonder what would happen
> if parents who do not 'own' each-other, raise
> children who are not 'owned'. Will these children
> be able to exist as what they are, more easily
> than the current crop of humans?
> In the field of psychology, the issues of
> 'ownership' falls into the category which is
> called 'co-dependency'. I can hope that over
> time, these remedial ideas will percolate into
> the mainstream, to the effect of actually
> legitimatizing freedom on all levels of Being.
> ==Gene Poole==
> 'Hindsight shows how often yesterday's so-called truth
> may become today's absurdity. Real ability is to respect
> relative truth without damaging oneself by refusing to
> realize that it will be superseded. When you observe that
> today's controversies often reveal not relevance but the
> clash of the untaught with the wrongly taught, and when
> you can endure this knowledge without cynicism, as a
> lover of humankind, greater compensations will be open to
> you than a sense of your own importance or satisfaction in
> thinking about the unreliability of others.'
> From 'A Perfumed Scorpion' Idries Shah
- --- satkartar7 <mi_nok@...> wrote:
> > > What would you like to know about web design? IYes, the best way to learn any software is trial and
> > > the technical stuff, the networking, server side
> > > and some basic html. It's the way certain
> > > call out there functions that gets me. I'm a
> hard line
> > > designer, with lots of technical stuff, but I
> > > greatly in the artist "soft" technique. The
> piece I
> > > did for the inner traveler was the first time I
> > > up the creative side in some time. You may have
> a good
> > > resource between Bobby and I, if you wish you
> > > e-mail me anytime :)
> > >
> > > Peace and Love
> > Me too. I learned the abstract visual elements
> from a book on
> > compostion by Steven Friend. There is an enormous
> body of knowledge
> > about how to construct a visual image with
> interest and balance. A
> > lot you would never think of. Unfortunately
> people lack the belief
> > that is is necessary a lot of the time.
> > Visual impact is a study in itself.
> thank you both Jason and Bobby, I'll
> e-mail in privi then
> I am also reading the adobe photoshop
> but this is not easy to learn from
> books, I'll have to go back to school
> love, Karta
error (hands on). I can help you with how the program
operates but your the one that has to put it to use in
a functional way!
Peace and Love
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