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Re: [Meditation Society of America] Frustration

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  • devianandi
    *there are no others* is exactly what it means..He s talking from a place where He is God and I am God and You are God and God is experiencing Himself =
    Message 1 of 48 , Jun 1, 2003
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      *there are no others* is exactly what it means..He's talking from a
      place where He is God and I am God and You are God and God is
      experiencing Himself = God-realiztion is realizing that you are
      God..the all alone, only One

      > Ramana said there are no others. One meaning of that is that what
      we
      > see as others is an ongoing dynamic relationship. And what I see
      as
      > myself is caused by their attributes in the specific relationship.
      I
      > see myself as having characteristics based on my relationship with
      > others. Identifying myself as a relationship which changes with the
      > group, denies my, quite obvious, constant existence.
      >
      > If I see this, there are no others, because they exist as I see
      them
      > to define only the mental image I was calling me. What they really
      > are that does not change is exactly identical to me.
      >
      > I have a question. Are you the change, the thing that changes, or
      the
      > knowing of the change? or something else?
      >
      > Love
      > Bobby G.
      >
      > > Peace and Love
      > > --- texasbg2000 <Bigbobgraham@a...> wrote:
      > > > Frustration has some interesting facets I think.
      > > >
      > > > The frustration of a scrub lady working twenty years
      > > > to get by and
      > > > pay bills would be different in type from the
      > > > frustration of a
      > > > socialite of wealth spending twenty years buying
      > > > things and is
      > > > frustrated that the thrill has gone out of. The
      > > > depression of each
      > > > would be similar but the connection to the
      > > > environment is very
      > > > different.
      > > >
      > > > The frustration of someone who feels they are
      > > > missing something in
      > > > their life of going along with the status quo of
      > > > culture would be
      > > > different from the frustration of the revolutionary
      > > > who can't get his
      > > > message out.
      > > >
      > > > The frustration of the star crossed loser would be
      > > > different from the
      > > > frustration of the religious leader who can't get
      > > > people to see happy
      > > > they would be if they took up his religion.
      > > >
      > > > The frustration of the artist who cannot make the
      > > > perfect painting
      > > > would be different from the frustration of the
      > > > person who wishes they
      > > > could express themselves as an artist.
      > > >
      > > > Being foiled just seems to be part of what happens
      > > > when we see
      > > > ourselves in relationship to others.
      > > >
      > > > Love
      > > > Bobby G.
      > > >
      > > > ps-the frustration of driving a car in heavy traffic
      > > > is the same for
      > > > everybody. If you are waiting to pull out into
      > > > heavy traffic you
      > > > will tick off either the person you pull out in
      > > > front of or the
      > > > person behind you when you don't pull out in front
      > > > of someone.
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > >
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    • Jason Fishman
      ... Yes, the best way to learn any software is trial and error (hands on). I can help you with how the program operates but your the one that has to put it to
      Message 48 of 48 , Jun 3, 2003
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        --- satkartar7 <mi_nok@...> wrote:
        > > > What would you like to know about web design? I
        > know
        > > > the technical stuff, the networking, server side
        > apps
        > > > and some basic html. It's the way certain
        > programs
        > > > call out there functions that gets me. I'm a
        > hard line
        > > > designer, with lots of technical stuff, but I
        > lack
        > > > greatly in the artist "soft" technique. The
        > piece I
        > > > did for the inner traveler was the first time I
        > picked
        > > > up the creative side in some time. You may have
        > a good
        > > > resource between Bobby and I, if you wish you
        > can
        > > > e-mail me anytime :)
        > > >
        > > > Peace and Love
        > >
        > > Me too. I learned the abstract visual elements
        > from a book on
        > > compostion by Steven Friend. There is an enormous
        > body of knowledge
        > > about how to construct a visual image with
        > interest and balance. A
        > > lot you would never think of. Unfortunately
        > people lack the belief
        > > that is is necessary a lot of the time.
        > >
        > > Visual impact is a study in itself.
        > >
        >
        > thank you both Jason and Bobby, I'll
        > e-mail in privi then
        >
        > I am also reading the adobe photoshop
        > but this is not easy to learn from
        > books, I'll have to go back to school
        >
        > love, Karta

        Yes, the best way to learn any software is trial and
        error (hands on). I can help you with how the program
        operates but your the one that has to put it to use in
        a functional way!

        Peace and Love

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