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  • freyjartist@aol.com
    Hi Nina
    Message 1 of 11 , May 29, 2003
      Hi Nina

      <<Ah, speaking of unshakable, I know a woman who used to check her car
      oil every time she got a period. Well, one day she noticed her car
      was not running smoothly at all. Then it dawned on her - she hadn't
      had a period in a while (she was through menopause) and so hadn't
      checked her oil. At any rate, she says she's feeling quite unshakable
      these days - one of the blessings of not having monthly hormonal
      surges.

      shaken, not stirred,
      Nina>>

      For some reason, what you wrote here
      reminded me of something i just read
      in a current issue of spiritual art magazine,
      Wild Heart Journal  (www.wildheartjournal.com)
      where there is an article on and interview with Alex Grey.
      You may be familiar with his art.

      "His paintings blast us with a flash of
      surprise, simultaneously reminding us
      that yes, we are but naked, mortal
      creatures with rotting entrails, bound
      for death, yet in the very same moment
      we are also radiant, infinite beings of
      pure spirit, one with the Infinite Source."

      Freyja


    • Nina
      ... Hehe, why deny it? For some reason, what you wrote here reminded me of something that just emerged in my current house renovation adventure. Part of the
      Message 2 of 11 , May 29, 2003
        > For some reason, what you wrote here
        > reminded me of something i just read
        > in a current issue of spiritual art magazine,
        > Wild Heart Journal (www.wildheartjournal.com)
        > where there is an article on and interview with Alex Grey.
        > You may be familiar with his art.
        >
        > "His paintings blast us with a flash of
        > surprise, simultaneously reminding us
        > that yes, we are but naked, mortal
        > creatures with rotting entrails, bound
        > for death, yet in the very same moment
        > we are also radiant, infinite beings of
        > pure spirit, one with the Infinite Source."
        >
        > Freyja

        Hehe, why deny it?

        For some reason, what you wrote here
        reminded me of something that just emerged
        in my current house renovation adventure.

        Part of the reason I said "let's buy it",
        even though we weren't looking for a house,
        was the situation of the house in relation
        to earth and sky. I have the hardest time
        finding the right balance of 'contact with
        the earth' and 'expanse through the sky'.
        This house nails it.

        The house sits at the top of the yard,
        at the street, and looks out across the
        sideyard, over the neighbor's yard, over
        some other neighbors, and out to the sunset.
        The yard drops off somewhat steeply from the
        house into aravine. The soil there is soft
        and mucky. It smells that way, too. There
        are vines, blackberries and wild grapes and
        roses, volunteer plants leftover from a
        century of gardeners. Insects, insects, insects.
        Oh, and a few critters. As Goldilocks was heard
        to say: "Just right!"

        Well, it turns out that the sideyard is
        more cthonian than I had thought. It turns
        out that when it rains, a river forms an
        impromptu wetland, possibly because the
        storm sewer is seruptitiously daylighting
        (uh - any gardening advice? lol!).
        Oh, and this week we found out that a major
        neighborhood sewer line runs right smack dab
        through the middle of it. (Is that like
        "A River Runs Through It"?)

        The neighbors have been asking what we're going
        to do with the ravine. My reply has been to
        say: we'll deal with it next spring. Secretly,
        and not-so-secretly, I have been harboring this
        fantasy, probably based purely on the fear of
        surrendering my wits and energy to a futile fight
        with nature, of letting it remain wild.

        Besides, if it gets to be too much, I can always
        escape to the house where I look out over the
        muck and don't have to get my feet wet. Isn't
        that the way? LOL!

        Nina
      • Greg Goode
        ... I was thinking more along the lines of James Bond s favorite refreshment, martini, shaken, not stirred. As explained in Casino Royale, 1953. :-) --Greg
        Message 3 of 11 , May 29, 2003
          At 12:19 PM 5/29/2003 -0400, freyjartist@... wrote:
          shaken, not stirred,
          Nina>>

          For some reason, what you wrote here
          reminded me of something i just read
          in a current issue of spiritual art magazine,
          Wild Heart Journal  (www.wildheartjournal.com)
          where there is an article on and interview with Alex Grey.
          You may be familiar with his art.


          I was thinking more along the lines of James Bond's favorite refreshment, martini, shaken, not stirred.  As explained in Casino Royale, 1953.  :-)

          --Greg
        • Nina
          ... refreshment, martini, shaken, not stirred. As explained in Casino Royale, 1953. :-) ... That, too. :) unstirrable, hehe, Nina
          Message 4 of 11 , May 29, 2003
            > I was thinking more along the lines of James Bond's favorite
            refreshment, martini, shaken, not stirred. As explained in Casino
            Royale, 1953. :-)
            >
            > --Greg

            That, too. :)

            unstirrable, hehe,
            Nina
          • freyjartist
            ... refreshment, martini, shaken, not stirred. As explained in Casino Royale, 1953. :-) ... I prefer mine dry with three olives Freyja p.s. i was referring
            Message 5 of 11 , May 29, 2003
              --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Greg Goode
              <goode@d...> wrote:
              > At 12:19 PM 5/29/2003 -0400, freyjartist@a... wrote:
              > >shaken, not stirred,
              > >Nina>>
              > >
              > >For some reason, what you wrote here
              > >reminded me of something i just read
              > >in a current issue of spiritual art magazine,
              > >Wild Heart Journal (www.wildheartjournal.com)
              > >where there is an article on and interview with Alex Grey.
              > >You may be familiar with his art.
              >
              >
              > I was thinking more along the lines of James Bond's favorite
              refreshment, martini, shaken, not stirred. As explained in Casino
              Royale, 1953. :-)
              >
              > --Greg

              :-)
              I prefer mine dry with three olives

              Freyja
              p.s. i was referring to the 'hormone' part
              in nina's post
            • Greg Goode
              ... Even though I don t drink alcoholic beverages, I do love Bond! --Greg
              Message 6 of 11 , May 29, 2003
                At 05:06 PM 5/29/2003 +0000, freyjartist wrote:
                >> I was thinking more along the lines of James Bond's favorite
                >refreshment, martini, shaken, not stirred. As explained in Casino
                >Royale, 1953. :-)
                >>
                >> --Greg
                >
                >:-)
                >I prefer mine dry with three olives

                Even though I don't drink alcoholic beverages, I do love Bond!

                --Greg
              • freyjartist
                ... Hey Greg, speaking of altered consciousness, i was reading in that article about Alex Grey, that he smokes grass to get new perspectives on the work. And
                Message 7 of 11 , May 29, 2003
                  --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Greg Goode
                  <goode@d...> wrote:
                  > At 05:06 PM 5/29/2003 +0000, freyjartist wrote:
                  > >> I was thinking more along the lines of James Bond's favorite
                  > >refreshment, martini, shaken, not stirred. As explained in Casino
                  > >Royale, 1953. :-)
                  > >>
                  > >> --Greg
                  > >
                  > >:-)
                  > >I prefer mine dry with three olives
                  >
                  > Even though I don't drink alcoholic beverages, I do love Bond!
                  >
                  > --Greg

                  Hey Greg,
                  speaking of altered consciousness,
                  i was reading in that article
                  about Alex Grey, that he smokes grass
                  to get new perspectives on the work.

                  And he investigates the psychedelic
                  realms at least once a year.

                  "I personally think that psychedelics
                  can be a very handy tool for some artists--
                  not everybody, obviously, should even get
                  involved with them. But for those that it
                  has provided meaningful and not so dangerous
                  experiences, I think they're a way to
                  see a kind of integration and unity...
                  like, where did all the religions come from?
                  What was it that inspired them? Not every
                  trip is going to be a mind-blowing mystical
                  experience, but there are enough of them
                  that reinforce that insight so that the
                  enthoegenically-inspired artist
                  will be someone in the future that weill really
                  help art. So i see psychedelics having a role,
                  in being catalysts for the visions, but
                  they're not the only way that i've gotten
                  the visions.

                  And there are also frightening, terrifying
                  realms people can find themselves in.
                  My last trip was a couple months ago and
                  I scrawled into one of my notebooks,
                  "It's reassuring to know that there is such
                  a thing as conventional reality."

                  I was lost in a swirl--my mind was like a bowl
                  of mercury that had been splattered into
                  a 200-yard radius. I was a bug crawling on
                  a leaf, something slithering on the ground,
                  a hedgehog- which sounds very nice and
                  non-dual in a certain way, but when there is
                  no center to it....I had totally lost my
                  personality and in some ways it was very
                  beautiful, but in others, it was like,
                  "Oh my gosh, I've dissolved into this
                  web of life and I'm not sure I can find my
                  way back to my physical body."

                  from Portals Into the Luminous:
                  An Interview with Alex Grey
                  in Spring/Summer 2003 Wildheart Journal
                • Greg Goode
                  ... (Quote from Alex:) ... And then there are the Buddhists who meditate on the various kinds of hells. Their flesh liquefied and boiling, or pierced by
                  Message 8 of 11 , May 29, 2003
                    At 05:25 PM 5/29/2003 +0000, freyjartist wrote:


                    >Hey Greg,
                    >speaking of altered consciousness,
                    >i was reading in that article about
                    >Alex Grey, that he smokes grass
                    >to get new perspectives on the work.
                    >
                    >And he investigates the psychedelic
                    >realms at least once a year.



                    (Quote from Alex:)

                    > And there are also frightening, terrifying
                    >realms people can find themselves in.


                    And then there are the Buddhists who meditate on the various kinds of hells. Their flesh liquefied and boiling, or pierced by red-hot pokers, or cold, frozen, and cracking apart. To increase their compassion and desire to help others not suffer!

                    --Greg
                  • Jeff Belyea
                    ... Greg This is an awesome bit of Buddhism. Thanks. While I can admire their goals, I can t say that their strategy does a whole lot to appeal to me. I can
                    Message 9 of 11 , May 29, 2003
                      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Greg Goode <
                      goode@d...> wrote:
                      > At 05:25 PM 5/29/2003 +0000, freyjartist wrote:
                      >
                      >
                      > >Hey Greg,
                      > >speaking of altered consciousness,
                      > >i was reading in that article about
                      > >Alex Grey, that he smokes grass
                      > >to get new perspectives on the work.
                      > >
                      > >And he investigates the psychedelic
                      > >realms at least once a year.
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > (Quote from Alex:)
                      >
                      > > And there are also frightening, terrifying
                      > >realms people can find themselves in.
                      >
                      >
                      > And then there are the Buddhists who meditate on the various kinds of hells. Their flesh liquefied and boiling, or pierced by red-hot pokers, or cold, frozen, and cracking apart. To increase their compassion and desire to help others not suffer!
                      >
                      > --Greg

                      Greg

                      This is an awesome bit of Buddhism. Thanks.
                      While I can admire their goals, I can't
                      say that their strategy does a whole lot
                      to appeal to me.

                      I can see the parallel to the Hell, Fire
                      and Brimstone crowd of Christianity.

                      Love,

                      Jeff
                    • Greg Goode
                      ... I can too, but I myself haven t seen these Buddhist meditations being mis-used by those wanting to manipulate *others* into doing stuff. I have seen
                      Message 10 of 11 , May 29, 2003
                        At 07:05 PM 5/29/2003 +0000, Jeff Belyea wrote:

                        >This is an awesome bit of Buddhism. Thanks.
                        >While I can admire their goals, I can't
                        >say that their strategy does a whole lot
                        >to appeal to me.
                        >
                        >I can see the parallel to the Hell, Fire
                        >and Brimstone crowd of Christianity.

                        I can too, but I myself haven't seen these Buddhist meditations being mis-used by those wanting to manipulate *others* into doing stuff. I have seen Christians do it a lot. I'm sure the Buddhists have done it too, but I don't live in a largely Buddhist country :-)

                        --Greg
                      • Jeff Belyea
                        ... Nice distinction. The silence of this type of meditation does not impose the way the spoken and shouted words of fundamentalism do. So the parallel only
                        Message 11 of 11 , May 29, 2003
                          --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Greg Goode <
                          goode@d...> wrote:
                          > At 07:05 PM 5/29/2003 +0000, Jeff Belyea wrote:
                          >
                          > >This is an awesome bit of Buddhism. Thanks.
                          > >While I can admire their goals, I can't
                          > >say that their strategy does a whole lot
                          > >to appeal to me.
                          > >
                          > >I can see the parallel to the Hell, Fire
                          > >and Brimstone crowd of Christianity.
                          >
                          > I can too, but I myself haven't seen these Buddhist meditations being mis-used by those wanting to manipulate *others* into doing stuff. I have seen Christians do it a lot. I'm sure the Buddhists have done it too, but I don't live in a largely Buddhist country :-)
                          >
                          > --Greg

                          Nice distinction. The silence of
                          this type of meditation does not
                          impose the way the spoken and
                          shouted words of fundamentalism
                          do. So the parallel only runs
                          to the "hell" imagery; each
                          finding that imagery distressful,
                          one as a consegrated act and
                          the other as an avoidance strategy.

                          Jeff
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