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  • medit8ionsociety
    ... Yo Judi, I would have thought (if I thought) that you would resonate well with this writer s concepts and approach IE: ...Enlightenment I Want You To Shed
    Message 1 of 17 , May 1, 2003
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      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "judirhodes"
      <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Poole"
      > <gene_poole@q...> wrote:
      > >
      > > My experience (sorry Judi!) is essentially
      > > identical with that portrayed by the writer,
      > > and it is one, upon which I suggest it is
      > > most useful to dwell, as he describes it in
      > > the 'Q-A' conversation. Simply by contemplating
      > > this point of view, one may attain immeasurable
      > > benefit...
      > >
      > ***** Sure, but my point being, if you're looking for *benefit*, for
      > *experience*, you're still looking in the wrooong place!
      >
      > And anyone *peddling* such, will be called on the carpet accordinly.
      >
      > Judi

      Yo Judi,

      I would have thought (if I thought) that you would resonate well with
      this writer's concepts and approach IE:

      "...Enlightenment I Want You To Shed All Presumed Knowledge About It.
      As Understand One Thing Very Clearly- Meditation Is An Experience,Its
      Not Something To Be Known -I Can Lead You To The Door But Only You
      Can Enter. Please Understand Well-meditation Cannot Be Known If You
      Are Learning Meditation Then You Are On The Wrong Path,You Cannot
      Learn It-it Has To Be An Experience. It Will Be My Efforts To Lead You
      To It. Only You Have To Be Ready.

      In This First Step Of Notes I Would Like To Explain To You In An Most
      Easy Way What I Have Known So That You Can Understand-..."

      So, what Uunderstanding does this Experience seem without benefit to
      you?:-)

      Peace and blessings,
      Bob
    • satkartar7
      ... come of it Judi!! clear your head up and up-grade ***** your mutated points Karta
      Message 2 of 17 , May 1, 2003
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        --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "judirhodes" <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
        > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Poole"
        > <gene_poole@q...> wrote:
        > >
        > > My experience (sorry Judi!) is essentially
        > > identical with that portrayed by the writer,
        > > and it is one, upon which I suggest it is
        > > most useful to dwell, as he describes it in
        > > the 'Q-A' conversation. Simply by contemplating
        > > this point of view, one may attain immeasurable
        > > benefit...
        > >
        > ***** Sure, but my point being, if you're looking for *benefit*, for
        > *experience*, you're still looking in the wrooong place!
        >
        > And anyone *peddling* such, will be called on the carpet accordinly.
        >
        > Judi


        come of it Judi!!

        clear your head up and up-grade
        ***** your mutated points

        Karta
      • satkartar7
        ... !!!!!!! and learn to shut the fuck up when you don t KNOW from *experince* what the meditators talk about
        Message 3 of 17 , May 1, 2003
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          --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "satkartar7" <mi_nok@y...> wrote:
          > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "judirhodes" <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
          > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Poole"
          > > <gene_poole@q...> wrote:
          > > >
          > > > My experience (sorry Judi!) is essentially
          > > > identical with that portrayed by the writer,
          > > > and it is one, upon which I suggest it is
          > > > most useful to dwell, as he describes it in
          > > > the 'Q-A' conversation. Simply by contemplating
          > > > this point of view, one may attain immeasurable
          > > > benefit...
          > > >
          > > ***** Sure, but my point being, if you're looking for *benefit*, for
          > > *experience*, you're still looking in the wrooong place!
          > >
          > > And anyone *peddling* such, will be called on the carpet accordinly.
          > >
          > > Judi
          >
          >
          > come of it Judi!!
          >
          > clear your head up and up-grade
          > ***** your mutated points
          >

          !!!!!!! and learn to shut the fuck
          up when you don't KNOW from *experince*
          what the meditators talk about

          > Karta
        • satkartar7
          ... better yet: just GO to the end of your Rope and Ranch your mutated mis-understandings are polution here does idiot has a meaning for you?
          Message 4 of 17 , May 1, 2003
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            > <gene_poole@q...> wrote:
            >
            > My experience (sorry Judi!) is essentially
            > identical with that portrayed by the writer,
            > and it is one, upon which I suggest it is
            > most useful to dwell, as he describes it in
            > the 'Q-A' conversation. Simply by contemplating
            > this point of view, one may attain immeasurable
            > benefit...
            >
            > ***** Sure, but my point being, if you're looking for *benefit*, for
            > *experience*, you're still looking in the wrooong place!
            >
            > And anyone *peddling* such, will be called on the carpet accordinly.
            >
            > Judi
            >
            >
            > come of it Judi!!
            >
            > clear your head up and up-grade
            > ***** your mutated points
            >
            >
            > !!!!!!! and learn to shut the fuck
            > up when you don't KNOW from *experince*
            > what the meditators talk about
            >

            better yet: just GO to the end of
            your Rope and Ranch

            your mutated mis-understandings
            are polution here

            <shees>
            does idiot has a meaning for you?


            > > Karta
          • judirhodes
            ... for ... accordinly. ... ******* No, does jealous and looking for attention have any meaning for you? I was born at night, but not LAST night Karta. Judi
            Message 5 of 17 , May 1, 2003
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              --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "satkartar7"
              <mi_nok@y...> wrote:
              > > <gene_poole@q...> wrote:
              > >
              > > My experience (sorry Judi!) is essentially
              > > identical with that portrayed by the writer,
              > > and it is one, upon which I suggest it is
              > > most useful to dwell, as he describes it in
              > > the 'Q-A' conversation. Simply by contemplating
              > > this point of view, one may attain immeasurable
              > > benefit...
              > >
              > > ***** Sure, but my point being, if you're looking for *benefit*,
              for
              > > *experience*, you're still looking in the wrooong place!
              > >
              > > And anyone *peddling* such, will be called on the carpet
              accordinly.
              > >
              > > Judi
              > >
              > >
              > > come of it Judi!!
              > >
              > > clear your head up and up-grade
              > > ***** your mutated points
              > >
              > >
              > > !!!!!!! and learn to shut the fuck
              > > up when you don't KNOW from *experince*
              > > what the meditators talk about
              > >
              >
              > better yet: just GO to the end of
              > your Rope and Ranch
              >
              > your mutated mis-understandings
              > are polution here
              >
              > <shees>
              > does idiot has a meaning for you?
              >
              >
              ******* No, does jealous and looking for attention have any meaning
              for you?

              I was born at night, but not LAST night Karta.

              Judi



              > > > Karta
            • Jason Fishman
              ... Just try and tell that to the women I ve been dating:) Peace and Love __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster.
              Message 6 of 17 , May 1, 2003
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                --- judirhodes <judirhodes@...> wrote:
                > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                > "jodyrrr"
                > <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
                > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                > "judirhodes"
                > > <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                > > > Oh sheesh! Not another one! :-)
                > > >
                > > > Just can't get enough of these jerkwaters, eh
                > Bob?
                > > >
                > > > How many times I got to tell you, *experience*
                > is not it!
                > > >
                > > > You do the math! :-)
                > > >
                > > > Judi
                > >
                > > I've got to add that Brahman don't talk either.
                > >
                > > --jody.
                >
                > ******* Not necessarily, a man of understanding can
                > do whatever the
                > hell he wants. The difference is in the humor, he
                > doesn't take it
                > seriously.
                >
                > Judi

                Just try and tell that to the women I've been dating:)

                Peace and Love

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              • judirhodes
                ... ******* Fuck em if they can t take a joke! :-) LOL
                Message 7 of 17 , May 1, 2003
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                  --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Jason Fishman
                  <munkiman4u@y...> wrote:
                  >
                  > --- judirhodes <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                  > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                  > > "jodyrrr"
                  > > <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
                  > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                  > > "judirhodes"
                  > > > <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                  > > > > Oh sheesh! Not another one! :-)
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Just can't get enough of these jerkwaters, eh
                  > > Bob?
                  > > > >
                  > > > > How many times I got to tell you, *experience*
                  > > is not it!
                  > > > >
                  > > > > You do the math! :-)
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Judi
                  > > >
                  > > > I've got to add that Brahman don't talk either.
                  > > >
                  > > > --jody.
                  > >
                  > > ******* Not necessarily, a man of understanding can
                  > > do whatever the
                  > > hell he wants. The difference is in the humor, he
                  > > doesn't take it
                  > > seriously.
                  > >
                  > > Judi
                  >
                  > Just try and tell that to the women I've been dating:)
                  >
                  > Peace and Love
                  >

                  ******* Fuck'em if they can't take a joke! :-) LOL
                • jeroen
                  ... you can say that again! hehehe
                  Message 8 of 17 , May 1, 2003
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                    --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "judirhodes"
                    <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                    > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Jason Fishman
                    > <munkiman4u@y...> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > --- judirhodes <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                    > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                    > > > "jodyrrr"
                    > > > <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
                    > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                    > > > "judirhodes"
                    > > > > <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                    > > > > > Oh sheesh! Not another one! :-)
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > > Just can't get enough of these jerkwaters, eh
                    > > > Bob?
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > > How many times I got to tell you, *experience*
                    > > > is not it!
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > > You do the math! :-)
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > > Judi
                    > > > >
                    > > > > I've got to add that Brahman don't talk either.
                    > > > >
                    > > > > --jody.
                    > > >
                    > > > ******* Not necessarily, a man of understanding can
                    > > > do whatever the
                    > > > hell he wants. The difference is in the humor, he
                    > > > doesn't take it
                    > > > seriously.
                    > > >
                    > > > Judi
                    > >
                    > > Just try and tell that to the women I've been dating:)
                    > >
                    > > Peace and Love
                    > >
                    >
                    > ******* Fuck'em if they can't take a joke! :-) LOL


                    you can say that again! hehehe
                  • Jason Fishman
                    ... Unfortunatly for me, thats about all they think their good for. Fortunatly for me, I don t mind a good fuck. Peace and Love
                    Message 9 of 17 , May 1, 2003
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                      --- judirhodes <judirhodes@...> wrote:
                      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                      > Jason Fishman
                      > <munkiman4u@y...> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > --- judirhodes <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                      > > > --- In
                      > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                      > > > "jodyrrr"
                      > > > <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
                      > > > > --- In
                      > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                      > > > "judirhodes"
                      > > > > <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                      > > > > > Oh sheesh! Not another one! :-)
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > Just can't get enough of these jerkwaters,
                      > eh
                      > > > Bob?
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > How many times I got to tell you,
                      > *experience*
                      > > > is not it!
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > You do the math! :-)
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > Judi
                      > > > >
                      > > > > I've got to add that Brahman don't talk
                      > either.
                      > > > >
                      > > > > --jody.
                      > > >
                      > > > ******* Not necessarily, a man of understanding
                      > can
                      > > > do whatever the
                      > > > hell he wants. The difference is in the humor,
                      > he
                      > > > doesn't take it
                      > > > seriously.
                      > > >
                      > > > Judi
                      > >
                      > > Just try and tell that to the women I've been
                      > dating:)
                      > >
                      > > Peace and Love
                      > >
                      >
                      > ******* Fuck'em if they can't take a joke! :-) LOL

                      Unfortunatly for me, thats about all they think their
                      good for. Fortunatly for me, I don't mind a good fuck.

                      Peace and Love

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                    • satkartar7
                      jeroen wrote: Jason Fishman ... !!!!!! this is a show I can do without it is a good thing that there are only 120 members at the end of their
                      Message 10 of 17 , May 1, 2003
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                        "jeroen" <sphurna@y...> wrote:
                        Jason Fishman

                        > Just try and tell that to the women I've been dating:)
                        >
                        > Peace and Love
                        >
                        >
                        > ******* Fuck'em if they can't take a joke! :-) LOL
                        >
                        >
                        > you can say that again! hehehe


                        !!!!!! this is a show I can do without
                        it is a good thing that there are
                        only 120 members at the end of their
                        Rope to enjoy this at the Ranch:

                        as judi fucks her own self online
                        with her own words and the peanut
                        gallery is cheering on


                        Karta



                        > > <munkiman4u@y...> wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > --- judirhodes <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                        > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                        > > > > "jodyrrr"
                        > > > > <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
                        > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                        > > > > "judirhodes"
                        > > > > > <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                        > > > > > > Oh sheesh! Not another one! :-)
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > Just can't get enough of these jerkwaters, eh
                        > > > > Bob?
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > How many times I got to tell you, *experience*
                        > > > > is not it!
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > You do the math! :-)
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > Judi
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > I've got to add that Brahman don't talk either.
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > --jody.
                        > > > >
                        > > > > ******* Not necessarily, a man of understanding can
                        > > > > do whatever the
                        > > > > hell he wants. The difference is in the humor, he
                        > > > > doesn't take it
                        > > > > seriously.
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Judi
                        > > >
                        > > > Just try and tell that to the women I've been dating:)
                        > > >
                        > > > Peace and Love
                        > > >
                        > >
                        > > ******* Fuck'em if they can't take a joke! :-) LOL
                        >
                        >
                        > you can say that again! hehehe
                      • Jason Fishman
                        Touching on the topic presented. Q WHO ARE YOU A I AM WHAT YOU SEE AND PERCIEVE Your also what I do not percieve. Q WHO AM I A ALL THAT YOU KNOW YOU ARE I m
                        Message 11 of 17 , May 1, 2003
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                          Touching on the topic presented.

                          Q WHO ARE YOU
                          A I AM WHAT YOU SEE AND PERCIEVE

                          Your also what I do not percieve.

                          Q WHO AM I
                          A ALL THAT YOU KNOW YOU ARE

                          I'm also what others percieve me to be. How infinite!

                          Q DO YOU EXIST IN ME
                          A YES AND NO
                          Q DO I EXIST IN YOU
                          A YES AND NO
                          Q IF I CLOSE MY EYES I CANNOT SEE YOU
                          A TRUE
                          Q IF I CLOSE ALL MY SENSE OF PERCEPTION THEN I CANT
                          PERCIEVE YOU
                          A TRUE
                          Q THEN FOR ME YOU ARE MY PERCEPTION
                          A TRUE
                          Q WHY DO I BREATHE
                          A TO LIVE
                          Q WHY DO I LIVE
                          A BECAUSE YOU ARE ALIVE
                          Q WHY AM I ALIVE
                          A BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE WHO CONCIEVED YOU

                          Hehe, I like this one!

                          Q WHY DO I BREATHE
                          A YOU DONT

                          Ahhh, This not breathing but being breathed. How about
                          this, to breath is automatic yet to breath is also
                          reliant on a breathing entity, of which the entity
                          knows of in and out breaths.

                          Q I DONT UNDERSTAND ?OKAY DO I BREATHE
                          A NO YOU DONT

                          Q WHY DO YOU SAY SO WHEN I AM BREATHING?
                          A BECAUSE TO BREATHE IS NOT IN YOUR HANDS.WHEN YOU
                          WERE BORN YOU
                          DID NOT DECIDE THAT I SHALL START BREATHING AND WHEN
                          YOU ARE DYING
                          THEN ALSO YOU CANT SAY THAT NOW I SHALL STOP MY
                          BREADTH.YOU CANNOT
                          SAY THAT NOW I SHALL STOP GREATHING AND LATER I WILL
                          CONTINUE.

                          I think the jury is still out on this one. Funny thing
                          is, animals don't even know what breathing is to
                          decide or not "in thought" to breath. So using logic
                          to say one didn't decide to breath has no relevence.
                          Breathing begins and ends in this stance taken.
                          Breathing has no beginging, nor will it end, not in
                          knowing or without knowing. It seems that most like to
                          apply the loop only to certain concepts.

                          Q THEN WHO BREATHES
                          A THE ONE WHO LIVES
                          Q SO ,I UNDERSTOOD THAT I AM NOT BREATHING BUT THEN I
                          DO LIVE?
                          A YES YOU LIVE BUT YOU ARE NOT BREATHING.
                          Q DO YOU EXIST AS I SEE YOU
                          A YES
                          Q YOU MEAN ALL THE STARS THE SUN THE PLANETS AND ALL
                          THE THINGS DO
                          YOU EXIST AS THAT
                          A YES ALL THAT AND ALL THAT IS CONCIEVABLE TO YOU.BUT
                          AGAIN I AM
                          ANSWERING THE QUESTION ONLY FOR YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL.

                          Nice twist here. As to say the sun stars and what not
                          would not exist if one didn't know of them.

                          Q BUT FOR ME MY EXISTENCE IS WHAT MATTERS
                          A TRUE

                          Hehe, and still nobody care about this? How essential
                          is it to KNOW this completely, why do people take
                          things so personal? Cause it's all about them! In
                          contrast, no one will care that it's about them.

                          Q SO AS LONG AS I EXIST YOU ARE THERE AND IF I DIE
                          THEN YOU ALSO
                          CEASE TO EXIST
                          A TRUE BUT ONLY FOR YOU

                          How can one ever define truth as a truth, when a truth
                          is equally false?

                          Q SO LET ME CLEAR THIS THAT FOR INDIVIDUAL ME IF I
                          LIVE THEN YOU
                          LIVE
                          A TRUE
                          Q AND FOR ME IF I DIE THEN YOU ALSO DIE
                          A TRUE
                          Q AND MY BIRTH AND DEATH IS NOT IN MY HANDS
                          A TRUE
                          Q SO WE CAN SAY THAT YOU LIVE THROUGH ME
                          A TRUE
                          Q WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE
                          A WHEN YOU LIVE, I LIVE THROUGH YOU AND WHEN YOU DIE
                          ,YOU LIVE
                          THROUGH ME UNDERSTAND THIS WELL FOR THIS IS THE
                          ESSENCE AND I
                          SHALL REPEAT AGAIN - WHEN YOU LIVE I LIVE THROUGH YOU
                          AND WHEN YOU
                          DIE YOU LIVE THROUGH ME.

                          Ahh to live forever! How horrible! "Passing on" it
                          seems, has a dual meaning, how ironic! Enjoying the
                          loop...

                          Thanks for sharing Bob
                          Peace and Love


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