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  • judirhodes
    ... ***** Sure, but my point being, if you re looking for *benefit*, for *experience*, you re still looking in the wrooong place! And anyone *peddling* such,
    Message 1 of 17 , May 1, 2003
      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Poole"
      <gene_poole@q...> wrote:
      >
      > My experience (sorry Judi!) is essentially
      > identical with that portrayed by the writer,
      > and it is one, upon which I suggest it is
      > most useful to dwell, as he describes it in
      > the 'Q-A' conversation. Simply by contemplating
      > this point of view, one may attain immeasurable
      > benefit...
      >
      ***** Sure, but my point being, if you're looking for *benefit*, for
      *experience*, you're still looking in the wrooong place!

      And anyone *peddling* such, will be called on the carpet accordinly.

      Judi
    • medit8ionsociety
      ... Yo Judi, I would have thought (if I thought) that you would resonate well with this writer s concepts and approach IE: ...Enlightenment I Want You To Shed
      Message 2 of 17 , May 1, 2003
        --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "judirhodes"
        <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
        > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Poole"
        > <gene_poole@q...> wrote:
        > >
        > > My experience (sorry Judi!) is essentially
        > > identical with that portrayed by the writer,
        > > and it is one, upon which I suggest it is
        > > most useful to dwell, as he describes it in
        > > the 'Q-A' conversation. Simply by contemplating
        > > this point of view, one may attain immeasurable
        > > benefit...
        > >
        > ***** Sure, but my point being, if you're looking for *benefit*, for
        > *experience*, you're still looking in the wrooong place!
        >
        > And anyone *peddling* such, will be called on the carpet accordinly.
        >
        > Judi

        Yo Judi,

        I would have thought (if I thought) that you would resonate well with
        this writer's concepts and approach IE:

        "...Enlightenment I Want You To Shed All Presumed Knowledge About It.
        As Understand One Thing Very Clearly- Meditation Is An Experience,Its
        Not Something To Be Known -I Can Lead You To The Door But Only You
        Can Enter. Please Understand Well-meditation Cannot Be Known If You
        Are Learning Meditation Then You Are On The Wrong Path,You Cannot
        Learn It-it Has To Be An Experience. It Will Be My Efforts To Lead You
        To It. Only You Have To Be Ready.

        In This First Step Of Notes I Would Like To Explain To You In An Most
        Easy Way What I Have Known So That You Can Understand-..."

        So, what Uunderstanding does this Experience seem without benefit to
        you?:-)

        Peace and blessings,
        Bob
      • satkartar7
        ... come of it Judi!! clear your head up and up-grade ***** your mutated points Karta
        Message 3 of 17 , May 1, 2003
          --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "judirhodes" <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
          > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Poole"
          > <gene_poole@q...> wrote:
          > >
          > > My experience (sorry Judi!) is essentially
          > > identical with that portrayed by the writer,
          > > and it is one, upon which I suggest it is
          > > most useful to dwell, as he describes it in
          > > the 'Q-A' conversation. Simply by contemplating
          > > this point of view, one may attain immeasurable
          > > benefit...
          > >
          > ***** Sure, but my point being, if you're looking for *benefit*, for
          > *experience*, you're still looking in the wrooong place!
          >
          > And anyone *peddling* such, will be called on the carpet accordinly.
          >
          > Judi


          come of it Judi!!

          clear your head up and up-grade
          ***** your mutated points

          Karta
        • satkartar7
          ... !!!!!!! and learn to shut the fuck up when you don t KNOW from *experince* what the meditators talk about
          Message 4 of 17 , May 1, 2003
            --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "satkartar7" <mi_nok@y...> wrote:
            > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "judirhodes" <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
            > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Poole"
            > > <gene_poole@q...> wrote:
            > > >
            > > > My experience (sorry Judi!) is essentially
            > > > identical with that portrayed by the writer,
            > > > and it is one, upon which I suggest it is
            > > > most useful to dwell, as he describes it in
            > > > the 'Q-A' conversation. Simply by contemplating
            > > > this point of view, one may attain immeasurable
            > > > benefit...
            > > >
            > > ***** Sure, but my point being, if you're looking for *benefit*, for
            > > *experience*, you're still looking in the wrooong place!
            > >
            > > And anyone *peddling* such, will be called on the carpet accordinly.
            > >
            > > Judi
            >
            >
            > come of it Judi!!
            >
            > clear your head up and up-grade
            > ***** your mutated points
            >

            !!!!!!! and learn to shut the fuck
            up when you don't KNOW from *experince*
            what the meditators talk about

            > Karta
          • satkartar7
            ... better yet: just GO to the end of your Rope and Ranch your mutated mis-understandings are polution here does idiot has a meaning for you?
            Message 5 of 17 , May 1, 2003
              > <gene_poole@q...> wrote:
              >
              > My experience (sorry Judi!) is essentially
              > identical with that portrayed by the writer,
              > and it is one, upon which I suggest it is
              > most useful to dwell, as he describes it in
              > the 'Q-A' conversation. Simply by contemplating
              > this point of view, one may attain immeasurable
              > benefit...
              >
              > ***** Sure, but my point being, if you're looking for *benefit*, for
              > *experience*, you're still looking in the wrooong place!
              >
              > And anyone *peddling* such, will be called on the carpet accordinly.
              >
              > Judi
              >
              >
              > come of it Judi!!
              >
              > clear your head up and up-grade
              > ***** your mutated points
              >
              >
              > !!!!!!! and learn to shut the fuck
              > up when you don't KNOW from *experince*
              > what the meditators talk about
              >

              better yet: just GO to the end of
              your Rope and Ranch

              your mutated mis-understandings
              are polution here

              <shees>
              does idiot has a meaning for you?


              > > Karta
            • judirhodes
              ... for ... accordinly. ... ******* No, does jealous and looking for attention have any meaning for you? I was born at night, but not LAST night Karta. Judi
              Message 6 of 17 , May 1, 2003
                --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "satkartar7"
                <mi_nok@y...> wrote:
                > > <gene_poole@q...> wrote:
                > >
                > > My experience (sorry Judi!) is essentially
                > > identical with that portrayed by the writer,
                > > and it is one, upon which I suggest it is
                > > most useful to dwell, as he describes it in
                > > the 'Q-A' conversation. Simply by contemplating
                > > this point of view, one may attain immeasurable
                > > benefit...
                > >
                > > ***** Sure, but my point being, if you're looking for *benefit*,
                for
                > > *experience*, you're still looking in the wrooong place!
                > >
                > > And anyone *peddling* such, will be called on the carpet
                accordinly.
                > >
                > > Judi
                > >
                > >
                > > come of it Judi!!
                > >
                > > clear your head up and up-grade
                > > ***** your mutated points
                > >
                > >
                > > !!!!!!! and learn to shut the fuck
                > > up when you don't KNOW from *experince*
                > > what the meditators talk about
                > >
                >
                > better yet: just GO to the end of
                > your Rope and Ranch
                >
                > your mutated mis-understandings
                > are polution here
                >
                > <shees>
                > does idiot has a meaning for you?
                >
                >
                ******* No, does jealous and looking for attention have any meaning
                for you?

                I was born at night, but not LAST night Karta.

                Judi



                > > > Karta
              • Jason Fishman
                ... Just try and tell that to the women I ve been dating:) Peace and Love __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster.
                Message 7 of 17 , May 1, 2003
                  --- judirhodes <judirhodes@...> wrote:
                  > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                  > "jodyrrr"
                  > <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
                  > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                  > "judirhodes"
                  > > <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                  > > > Oh sheesh! Not another one! :-)
                  > > >
                  > > > Just can't get enough of these jerkwaters, eh
                  > Bob?
                  > > >
                  > > > How many times I got to tell you, *experience*
                  > is not it!
                  > > >
                  > > > You do the math! :-)
                  > > >
                  > > > Judi
                  > >
                  > > I've got to add that Brahman don't talk either.
                  > >
                  > > --jody.
                  >
                  > ******* Not necessarily, a man of understanding can
                  > do whatever the
                  > hell he wants. The difference is in the humor, he
                  > doesn't take it
                  > seriously.
                  >
                  > Judi

                  Just try and tell that to the women I've been dating:)

                  Peace and Love

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                • judirhodes
                  ... ******* Fuck em if they can t take a joke! :-) LOL
                  Message 8 of 17 , May 1, 2003
                    --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Jason Fishman
                    <munkiman4u@y...> wrote:
                    >
                    > --- judirhodes <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                    > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                    > > "jodyrrr"
                    > > <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
                    > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                    > > "judirhodes"
                    > > > <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                    > > > > Oh sheesh! Not another one! :-)
                    > > > >
                    > > > > Just can't get enough of these jerkwaters, eh
                    > > Bob?
                    > > > >
                    > > > > How many times I got to tell you, *experience*
                    > > is not it!
                    > > > >
                    > > > > You do the math! :-)
                    > > > >
                    > > > > Judi
                    > > >
                    > > > I've got to add that Brahman don't talk either.
                    > > >
                    > > > --jody.
                    > >
                    > > ******* Not necessarily, a man of understanding can
                    > > do whatever the
                    > > hell he wants. The difference is in the humor, he
                    > > doesn't take it
                    > > seriously.
                    > >
                    > > Judi
                    >
                    > Just try and tell that to the women I've been dating:)
                    >
                    > Peace and Love
                    >

                    ******* Fuck'em if they can't take a joke! :-) LOL
                  • jeroen
                    ... you can say that again! hehehe
                    Message 9 of 17 , May 1, 2003
                      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "judirhodes"
                      <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Jason Fishman
                      > <munkiman4u@y...> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > --- judirhodes <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                      > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                      > > > "jodyrrr"
                      > > > <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
                      > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                      > > > "judirhodes"
                      > > > > <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                      > > > > > Oh sheesh! Not another one! :-)
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > Just can't get enough of these jerkwaters, eh
                      > > > Bob?
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > How many times I got to tell you, *experience*
                      > > > is not it!
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > You do the math! :-)
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > Judi
                      > > > >
                      > > > > I've got to add that Brahman don't talk either.
                      > > > >
                      > > > > --jody.
                      > > >
                      > > > ******* Not necessarily, a man of understanding can
                      > > > do whatever the
                      > > > hell he wants. The difference is in the humor, he
                      > > > doesn't take it
                      > > > seriously.
                      > > >
                      > > > Judi
                      > >
                      > > Just try and tell that to the women I've been dating:)
                      > >
                      > > Peace and Love
                      > >
                      >
                      > ******* Fuck'em if they can't take a joke! :-) LOL


                      you can say that again! hehehe
                    • Jason Fishman
                      ... Unfortunatly for me, thats about all they think their good for. Fortunatly for me, I don t mind a good fuck. Peace and Love
                      Message 10 of 17 , May 1, 2003
                        --- judirhodes <judirhodes@...> wrote:
                        > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                        > Jason Fishman
                        > <munkiman4u@y...> wrote:
                        > >
                        > > --- judirhodes <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                        > > > --- In
                        > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                        > > > "jodyrrr"
                        > > > <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
                        > > > > --- In
                        > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                        > > > "judirhodes"
                        > > > > <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                        > > > > > Oh sheesh! Not another one! :-)
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > Just can't get enough of these jerkwaters,
                        > eh
                        > > > Bob?
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > How many times I got to tell you,
                        > *experience*
                        > > > is not it!
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > You do the math! :-)
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > Judi
                        > > > >
                        > > > > I've got to add that Brahman don't talk
                        > either.
                        > > > >
                        > > > > --jody.
                        > > >
                        > > > ******* Not necessarily, a man of understanding
                        > can
                        > > > do whatever the
                        > > > hell he wants. The difference is in the humor,
                        > he
                        > > > doesn't take it
                        > > > seriously.
                        > > >
                        > > > Judi
                        > >
                        > > Just try and tell that to the women I've been
                        > dating:)
                        > >
                        > > Peace and Love
                        > >
                        >
                        > ******* Fuck'em if they can't take a joke! :-) LOL

                        Unfortunatly for me, thats about all they think their
                        good for. Fortunatly for me, I don't mind a good fuck.

                        Peace and Love

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                      • satkartar7
                        jeroen wrote: Jason Fishman ... !!!!!! this is a show I can do without it is a good thing that there are only 120 members at the end of their
                        Message 11 of 17 , May 1, 2003
                          "jeroen" <sphurna@y...> wrote:
                          Jason Fishman

                          > Just try and tell that to the women I've been dating:)
                          >
                          > Peace and Love
                          >
                          >
                          > ******* Fuck'em if they can't take a joke! :-) LOL
                          >
                          >
                          > you can say that again! hehehe


                          !!!!!! this is a show I can do without
                          it is a good thing that there are
                          only 120 members at the end of their
                          Rope to enjoy this at the Ranch:

                          as judi fucks her own self online
                          with her own words and the peanut
                          gallery is cheering on


                          Karta



                          > > <munkiman4u@y...> wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > --- judirhodes <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                          > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                          > > > > "jodyrrr"
                          > > > > <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
                          > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                          > > > > "judirhodes"
                          > > > > > <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
                          > > > > > > Oh sheesh! Not another one! :-)
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > Just can't get enough of these jerkwaters, eh
                          > > > > Bob?
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > How many times I got to tell you, *experience*
                          > > > > is not it!
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > You do the math! :-)
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > Judi
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > I've got to add that Brahman don't talk either.
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > --jody.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > ******* Not necessarily, a man of understanding can
                          > > > > do whatever the
                          > > > > hell he wants. The difference is in the humor, he
                          > > > > doesn't take it
                          > > > > seriously.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Judi
                          > > >
                          > > > Just try and tell that to the women I've been dating:)
                          > > >
                          > > > Peace and Love
                          > > >
                          > >
                          > > ******* Fuck'em if they can't take a joke! :-) LOL
                          >
                          >
                          > you can say that again! hehehe
                        • Jason Fishman
                          Touching on the topic presented. Q WHO ARE YOU A I AM WHAT YOU SEE AND PERCIEVE Your also what I do not percieve. Q WHO AM I A ALL THAT YOU KNOW YOU ARE I m
                          Message 12 of 17 , May 1, 2003
                            Touching on the topic presented.

                            Q WHO ARE YOU
                            A I AM WHAT YOU SEE AND PERCIEVE

                            Your also what I do not percieve.

                            Q WHO AM I
                            A ALL THAT YOU KNOW YOU ARE

                            I'm also what others percieve me to be. How infinite!

                            Q DO YOU EXIST IN ME
                            A YES AND NO
                            Q DO I EXIST IN YOU
                            A YES AND NO
                            Q IF I CLOSE MY EYES I CANNOT SEE YOU
                            A TRUE
                            Q IF I CLOSE ALL MY SENSE OF PERCEPTION THEN I CANT
                            PERCIEVE YOU
                            A TRUE
                            Q THEN FOR ME YOU ARE MY PERCEPTION
                            A TRUE
                            Q WHY DO I BREATHE
                            A TO LIVE
                            Q WHY DO I LIVE
                            A BECAUSE YOU ARE ALIVE
                            Q WHY AM I ALIVE
                            A BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE WHO CONCIEVED YOU

                            Hehe, I like this one!

                            Q WHY DO I BREATHE
                            A YOU DONT

                            Ahhh, This not breathing but being breathed. How about
                            this, to breath is automatic yet to breath is also
                            reliant on a breathing entity, of which the entity
                            knows of in and out breaths.

                            Q I DONT UNDERSTAND ?OKAY DO I BREATHE
                            A NO YOU DONT

                            Q WHY DO YOU SAY SO WHEN I AM BREATHING?
                            A BECAUSE TO BREATHE IS NOT IN YOUR HANDS.WHEN YOU
                            WERE BORN YOU
                            DID NOT DECIDE THAT I SHALL START BREATHING AND WHEN
                            YOU ARE DYING
                            THEN ALSO YOU CANT SAY THAT NOW I SHALL STOP MY
                            BREADTH.YOU CANNOT
                            SAY THAT NOW I SHALL STOP GREATHING AND LATER I WILL
                            CONTINUE.

                            I think the jury is still out on this one. Funny thing
                            is, animals don't even know what breathing is to
                            decide or not "in thought" to breath. So using logic
                            to say one didn't decide to breath has no relevence.
                            Breathing begins and ends in this stance taken.
                            Breathing has no beginging, nor will it end, not in
                            knowing or without knowing. It seems that most like to
                            apply the loop only to certain concepts.

                            Q THEN WHO BREATHES
                            A THE ONE WHO LIVES
                            Q SO ,I UNDERSTOOD THAT I AM NOT BREATHING BUT THEN I
                            DO LIVE?
                            A YES YOU LIVE BUT YOU ARE NOT BREATHING.
                            Q DO YOU EXIST AS I SEE YOU
                            A YES
                            Q YOU MEAN ALL THE STARS THE SUN THE PLANETS AND ALL
                            THE THINGS DO
                            YOU EXIST AS THAT
                            A YES ALL THAT AND ALL THAT IS CONCIEVABLE TO YOU.BUT
                            AGAIN I AM
                            ANSWERING THE QUESTION ONLY FOR YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL.

                            Nice twist here. As to say the sun stars and what not
                            would not exist if one didn't know of them.

                            Q BUT FOR ME MY EXISTENCE IS WHAT MATTERS
                            A TRUE

                            Hehe, and still nobody care about this? How essential
                            is it to KNOW this completely, why do people take
                            things so personal? Cause it's all about them! In
                            contrast, no one will care that it's about them.

                            Q SO AS LONG AS I EXIST YOU ARE THERE AND IF I DIE
                            THEN YOU ALSO
                            CEASE TO EXIST
                            A TRUE BUT ONLY FOR YOU

                            How can one ever define truth as a truth, when a truth
                            is equally false?

                            Q SO LET ME CLEAR THIS THAT FOR INDIVIDUAL ME IF I
                            LIVE THEN YOU
                            LIVE
                            A TRUE
                            Q AND FOR ME IF I DIE THEN YOU ALSO DIE
                            A TRUE
                            Q AND MY BIRTH AND DEATH IS NOT IN MY HANDS
                            A TRUE
                            Q SO WE CAN SAY THAT YOU LIVE THROUGH ME
                            A TRUE
                            Q WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE
                            A WHEN YOU LIVE, I LIVE THROUGH YOU AND WHEN YOU DIE
                            ,YOU LIVE
                            THROUGH ME UNDERSTAND THIS WELL FOR THIS IS THE
                            ESSENCE AND I
                            SHALL REPEAT AGAIN - WHEN YOU LIVE I LIVE THROUGH YOU
                            AND WHEN YOU
                            DIE YOU LIVE THROUGH ME.

                            Ahh to live forever! How horrible! "Passing on" it
                            seems, has a dual meaning, how ironic! Enjoying the
                            loop...

                            Thanks for sharing Bob
                            Peace and Love


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