Re: "Real" Meditation
- --- In email@example.com, "Judi
Rhodes" <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
> Da Free John:purpose. When one begins some form of seeking, one
> "Real" mediation does not do anything for you. It has no
immediately turns to an effective, remedial technique that will get
one quickly to one's goal. Thus, when one adapts to various
kinds of religious and spiritual effort, one begins almost
immediately to meditate in some fashion. The Christian and the
devotee begin to pray and adapt to relgious forms. The spiritual
seeker begins to concentrate and internalize the mind. Others
use drugs, study, critical thought, relaxation and poetry, pleasure
and so forth.
>form of seeking. For one who understands, meditation is not
> But real ife, the way of radical understanding, is not another
adopted for the sake of something else. Such a one does not
pursue understanding or reality or any kind of experience
through meditation. "Real" meditation is already a radical
activity. It "is" understanding.
>are seeking. But one who understands perceives the logic of
> In the logic of Narcissus, the separative mentality, all things
reality and lives on the basis of that logic. Therefore, such a one
is not strategically concerned about meditation. The business of
one who understands is understanding, not ascent, vision,
transformation, liberation, or any other goal. Understanding
recognizes the fruitlessness of seeking.
>Therefore. "real" meditation cannot, itself, be recommended, or
> "Real" meditation cannot be done by egoic effort, or strategy.
prescribed. There is only understanding. Therefore,
understand. And when the process of understanding has
become self-observation, reflection, and radical insight, then the
state of conscious awareness "is" real meditation. When
understanding has become a radical process, and the
avoidance of relationship has been inclusively and sufficiently
recognized, when you have understood that seeking is all a
function of dilemma and when you are no longer moved to seek
by the physical, the mental, or the spiritual problem, then you are
already and really meditating.
>good feeling. It provides no radical reversal of ordinary
> The usual meditation is only a consolation, an effect, and a
consciousness, and thus, when situations arise out of
meditation, the person has no control over the process of
identification, differentiation, and desire.
>reality itself. It is not attached to some body or some conditional
> Only radical understanding avails. It is the intelligence of
realm, or some conditional experience that is seen as the
alternative, remedy, cure, and source of victory. It knows that
every motive and action is made of avoidance. Thus, it has no
recourse except to understand.
>and true self-observation in relationship. Therefore, observe
> Understanding arises when there are true listening to my word
yourself in life. Observe yourself when you seek. Observe
yourself when you suffer to any degree. Observe your motives.
Observe the activity of identification. Observe the activity of
differentiation. Observe the activity of desire. Observe the
patterns of your existence.
>emerging. When you see the pattern of Narcissus as all your
> When you see that you are always seeking, understanding is
motives, all your acts, all your seeking, understanding is
emerging. When you see you are always suffering,
understanding is emerging. When you see that every moment is
a process in dilemma, understanding is emerging. When you
see that every moment is a process of identification,
differentiation, and desire, understanding is emerging. When
you see that every moment, when you are at your best as well as
when you are at your worst, you are only avoiding relationship,
then you understand.
>principle of one's life. It recognizes the effects of seeking, its
> Understanding is the recognition of seeking as the active
qualities and sources, the areas of its operation and the
methods of its functioning. It sees that seeking is the substance
and the entire meaning of every moment of one's ordinary life.
>seeking, is not seeking. Radical understanding is prior to and
> But radical understanding, since it is radically aware of
apart from every kind of seeking and the entire drama or ordinary
life. Therefore, it not only sees all life as seeking, but Enjoys
itself as fundamental reality, prior to all seeking. It realizes no
seeking, non-avoidance, non-separation, unqualified
relatedness, and unqualified consciousness.
>G: like i said before and say again Meditation is the way out.....
> Happy Days,
the way out is through.......
you have always attempted to lump whatever is said as a
way to create some false state...... i have never promoted
that type of meditation..... i don't advocate affirmations or
self help courses.......
the meditation i give is just this ...... one that brings you
into direct cognition of what is going on in your life Now......
and to allow you space to confront the illusions........
so once again you have been attacking something which
you yourself promote........ Real Meditation......
try seeing what is really being said, rather than what you
think is being said....... this radical understanding is also
simply a step along the way to Realization...... there is yet
a further step........ seeing through the bogus life holdings
brings relief and frees one to then delve even deeper into
what held it in place and created the dynamic in the first
place and that is the "I" identity itself..... this is the last
confrontation and surrender when it blows out it is over.........