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  • Tony
    Hi Bob, This is wonderful. It seems a little too awesome to even try - but of course I will. I have to decide when would be a good time. Have you had this
    Message 1 of 99 , Jul 13, 2002
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      Hi Bob,

      This is wonderful. It seems a little too awesome to even try - but of course
      I will. I have to decide when would be a good time.

      Have you had this experience? How did you approach it and what happened?

      Thanks a ton...Tony
      -----Original Message-----
      From: medit8ionsociety [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com]
      Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 2:58 PM
      To: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: Journal Entry -July 12 -
      tosime


      "Tony" <tosime@l...> wrote:
      Question: What is a good approach to meditating on a topic as
      opposed to thought-less meditating (even though there is mind
      chatter)? ...
      Answer: "Tony" <tosime@l...> wrote:
      Question: What is a good approach to meditating on a topic as
      opposed to thought-less meditating (even though there is mind
      chatter)? ...
      Answer: One of the basic, classic Raja Yoga meditation techniques is
      to pick an object, and think of everything you know about it. Then
      you think about every way the specifics relate to each other. Then
      how they relate to you. Since everything is related to everything
      else in the universe, eventually you will make billions of
      connections. Your mind will either explode, or give up, and either
      way, you will be left with what they refer to in Zen as No-Mind.
      Emptyness. Silence. This is the moment when you can fill with the
      universe. In the beginning, you are just "trying" to concentrate and
      stay focused on the object and "making an effort" to not get
      diverted. This is Concentration. There is an interesting (to say the
      least) point in the process where everything about the object of your
      meditation simply comes to you. Effortlessly. Without trying "to do".
      It is like you are sitting in a theater and a movie about the object
      is playing. This is Meditation. The empty, silent mind referred to
      before is Contemplation. This is when you "Know", you "Are", and
      "Realize" you have always been and will always "Be" . The amazing
      thing about this process is that although it looks like your
      concentration has "caused" the meditation, and the meditation has
      "caused" the contemplation, it is all a gift of Grace and has no
      cause and effect about it at all. You always are this causeless Self.
      What has been just as much an illusion as a movie, has been the
      billions of connections. Unconnected from illusion, Graced, you live
      happily ever after. I hope this helps, but these are just words. What
      may help is actually meditating. It can be considered preparing the
      soil in the garden, ridding it of weeds, planting seeds, and having
      it ready for "Mother Nature", "Grace", "God", you supply the
      adjective, to work the most amazing miracle of all...letting you
      experience the answer to "Who am I?"
      Peace and blessings,
      Bob


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    • Swami-G
      ... without ... on ... very ... and deeper ... slide ... If I ... come when I ... thoughts is a ... any ... thought ... Sg: nice to see the site come back to
      Message 99 of 99 , Nov 29, 2003
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        --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "tosime"
        <tosime@b...> wrote:
        > Journal Entry - tosime
        > Date: November 29 2003
        > Type: Meditation on inner sounds (with earplugs)
        > Time: 07:55 a.m.
        > Duration: 38 minutes (open)
        > Posture: Seated on chair
        > Body: Eyes closed,
        > - Hands on knees
        > Room Condition: Darkened room
        > - One candle
        > - Incense
        > - Essential Oil - (Gardenia + water on burner)
        > Pre-session:
        > - Full body stretch (3 times).
        > - Struck the bell 3 times before starting
        > Mind Chatter: Low
        > Waves of bliss: None
        > Experience: Good Session. First session after about a year
        without
        > meditating
        >
        > Result: Recall Session - Getting used to the motions.
        >
        > Surprising easy to return to meditation. My body felt as if it were
        on
        > automatic pilot - simply did most of the usual things I did with
        very
        > little thinking on my part.
        >
        > Good physical relaxation. Moved quite quickly through deeper
        and deeper
        > states of physical relaxation.
        >
        > Had the insight that my day to day thinking was like watching a
        slide
        > show. Each slide would stop if I dwelt on it by thinking about it.
        If I
        > did not, the next slide would appear. Most of my problems
        come when I
        > dwell too much on each passing thought. The progression of
        thoughts is a
        > natural process that I interfere with when I dwell too long on
        any
        > particular thought. I should try relaxing more and allowing the
        thought
        > process to take its natural course.


        Sg: nice to see the site come back to its intention.....
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