Re: Top 10 spiritual practices -Jason
- "tosime" <tosime@b...> wrote:
> Hi Jason,If you look at zero you see nothing, but if you look through it you
> This is quite a coincidence. After your post, the very next post I received
> :-) Nothing is something, and Something is really nothing at all. T'ai Hsu
> the "Great Nothing."
> It came one minute after yours.
> Is there some spiritual significance to "nothing"?
see the world
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason <munkiman4u@y...> [mailto:munkiman4u@y...]
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 1:38 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] Top 10 spiritual practices
> No need to thank me :) there is nothing, but everything.
> Peace and Love
> > Hi Jason,
> > Thanks for EVERYTHING...
> > ...Tony
> > Yes, a summary...
> > Everything you have listed equals nothing to do more
> > or less of.
> > You can do meditation, yet you already are doing
> > meditation. You can write and read yahoo groups, yet
> > you already are writing and reading yahoo groups. You
> > can be introspective, yet you already are
> > introspecting. You can live in the now, yet you
> > already are living in the now. You can observe nature,
> > yet everything already is natural. You can teach,
> > study, learn, Yet you already teach, study, and learn.
> > Ahh my favorite, observing children, you already are
> > observing children. My least favorite, attending
> > church, again, you already attend church.
> > This all comes down to a big nothing, a zero. No
> > matter what you do, in your mind, this doing is
> > something you are already doing. There is no doing,
> > yet all is doing. Any words one can express, any doing
> > one does can be flipped to an opposite, I'm not doing
> > this or I'm not saying that. Two opposings cancel
> > there for a zero, nothing. Its a circle of opposing
> > factors which is the summary of all things, a zero, a
> > huge never ending, never begining circle. You don't
> > exist, yet you exists in the mind :)
> > Peace and Love
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- Jason Fishman <munkiman4u@y...> wrote:
Another example, you have all this great
> knowledge then one day your mind goes blank (such asWHY? why would i think about such things
> amnesia or altzimers disease does over time) what do
> YOU have left? Does that mean all those things you
> experienced and knowledge you gained never happened?
> How would you know? You can't do them over. Think
> about that, if you will.
> This is everything, how muchOne can dare to be real
> broader view can one have?
>You Jason are a philosopher <smiles>
> Of course, These are all parts of you which is
> everything. This does not desribe HOW phenomena happen
> in exsistance. This is something to KNOW. If all of
> the earth was wiped out where only the soil and water
> remained, did your knowledge go anywhere? Do you feel
> you take something with you when death comes? How can
> you? Everything you have is stored in memory, is in
> mind, do you take mind with you? Once your gone, you
> will take nothing more then what you came in with,
> which is nothing more then everything.
> Yes, phase one, phase two, phase ten million, all the
> same thing, amounts to everything, which is already
> what you have.
> One can decide they are nooh! this obsession with the *search*
> longer searching, but there is always knowledge to
> gain, experiences to experience, all of which are the
> same activity of existance.
> This is theok Jason, i will keep in mind your
> heart of the matter, yet even when stepped back in
> witness stance, this leads to the same truth.
> (no-existance) is everything.
> Yup, all experiences exist in the mind, all will be
> gone in the blink of an eye. Whats left? Nothing :)
advice, that to 'search' is the
wrong activity and the notion of
the 'nothing' the later Gene's way
looking at the zero...
i am not a philosopher, ALL I
WANTED TO SAY is that: At times
when i dare to exist between nowhere
and somewhere between no ID and
a transient one to use what makes
me tick is getting into the *zone*
what is easy with sadna yoga and
meditation as i belive, that through
yoga practice consciousness can be
raised. And with higher
consciousness there IS [must be and
there is NOOOOO way around this]
a refinement of character an upgrade
in the ethics of action and yes!
an upgrade in *understanding* these
are biproducts of sadna
Jason, i am glad; that what makes
you tick is not trolling the
*spiritual* as in: SPIRITUAL lists
with knocking meditation and yoga,
or what ever is listed as the aim
of the club is: and trying to
recruit normal people to some funny
farm boot-camp to be insulted
because i am fead up with that
> Peace and love to you Karta