Re: A question for Granny Gangrene
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "DrDary
> Wrong, I don't have any problem with this enlightenmentbullshit. I never claimed to be enlightened. I never had any
"enlightened stance" like you yourself admitted. I am against this
psychopath Granny Gangrene because she is a self-deceived
lunatic who is at the moment misleading people and even
delaying diagnosis of those who are really afflicted. She should
be arrested for outright fraud. What is her qualifications?
G: and yet you claim to be an *authority* .... my qualifications
are 40 + years on the spiritual path.... 30 + years of an active
kundalini which then completed.... plus being authorized by me
Guru to go forward and be a Guru......
now what are *your* qualifications to be making such outright
slanderous propagations..... you know *Nothing* of my
*qualifications* or *What* or *How* i am working with others....
you have not bothered to check out those being worked with to
*find* out if in fact they have reached a place of *balance* and
*peace* or not.....
as a matter of fact i work with a *psychologist* that is writing her
doctorate on changing the DSM IV to including spiritual
transitions .... rather than vilifying them........
and i am in fact endorsed in full by a very prominent psychologist
in california ...... but rather than searching out the truth you
simply jumped on this facetious witch hunt.....
you have simply seen that i work with kundalini and then went off
of the deep end .... that is all......
D: People are having aches in their body and she is
> associating them with kundalini about which she knowsabsolutely nothing.
G: once again that is a complete fabrication and assumption
on your part....... i check out their stories quite carefully .... if
there is something that it can be other than kundalini i have them
go to their doctors to have it checked out....... i don't think that
every symptom is kundalini.........
once again you have not been on my site ..... have NO Idea
what i teach or do not teach....... you have simply come up with
your trumped up nonsense ....
a woman that works with kundalini and you simply saw and
are still seeing red....... and i am sorry that you have such a
personal problem going on with this....... but it is in fact a
personal problem with no validity what-so-ever.........
D: People may feel some comfort psychosomatically, but the
aches could have been brought about by real organic causes.
Some of them may even be early stages of cancer.
G: there is a vast differance in organic causes and the
psychology and also the symptomology of kundalini...... i also
used to work in the medical profession .... and am quite aware
of the difference..... if there is any doubt i always urge that a
number of tests be run.........
so once again get off of your soapbox .... first get the
*FACTS* don't just come out here and make fabricated
slanderous accusations..... you may have an opinion ....
granted that is fair...... but before being such an excuse the
expression horses ass and parading as the be all *authority*
you should first have some *Real* facts rather than
*Assumptions* and *Innuendo*.........
D: But because such confidence artists as the psychopath
Granny Gangrene is on the loose, these people are delaying
G: first of all a *confidance* artist is one that defrauds people
out of money...... i don't charge anything... all help is given
so your big *problem* is that i am delaying a
Most people that come have by this time gone through
the diagnostic ringer......
so once again you are WAY OFF base......
so far the only *psychopath* is the one that is running
around foaming at the mouth making such blown up
fabrications and suffering a delusionary mind trip of his
own creation.... brought forth by * assumption * .... and not
really checking into anything but going off half baked on
his slanderous witch hunt.......
K: > > See mostly she angered me because of
> > my own issues..now I see her as a good-hearted womanfull of desire to
> > spread her light and help others,D: > That's not cool. She doesn't have any light.
> > one who loves to sing om shanti om
> > shanti and likes to post in clubs,
> > thats cool
seeing is believing.....
D: And she is a total liar.
G: that is a subjective statement .... i have not *lied* about
anything but have been quite open and honest.....
but being that you came in with this big *chip on your
shoulder* you have no clarity to see anything except
what you are prepared and willing to see ........ and in
this case you were not willing to *ask* any *questions*
but simply went off on this rampage all because the
statement is made that i work helping others to kundalini
completion.......... that was all you needed ... then this
blind hatred arose........ and it sees nothing but it's own
malicious intent........ where in fact there is nothing
malicious going on here What-so-ever.........
D: she has no word of honor. She can't be trusted. Look, she
just posted two messages, one of them was a reply to this
thread. She did it after she said that she will leave this list. You
see how screwed up Granny Gangrene is? She just couldn't
resist the itch to fire back.
G: so i see .... *Honor* is not in sitting back and allowing
someone to slander you into ill-repute.... that is not honor that
is *foolishness* ...... Honor is doing the right thing.... Honor is
in upholding Truth and Honesty.......
Honor is in not simply firing back and attempting to downgrade
you.... i think that you truly believe you are doing the right
thing...... but you are doing it blindly........ and with malice of
intent...... and there is nothing honorable in malice.......
so please at this point you are the last one to be speaking of
D: It's alright if she did not say that she's leaving, but she
said it. Now she is eating her own words. She is very
G: oh contra're i have been quite consistent... i continue to
attempt to clarify....... i do not return hatred with hatred....
i left for a short time to give you time to quit chasing
but you simply cannot let it go.... i have an absolute right
to be able to set the record straight....
D: Such a "guru" is a danger to people. They must be
destroyed at all cost.
G: such hatred and blind accusations are a danger to
people and must be brought to light at all costs....
light will not flee from darkness..... nor Truth from
lies.......... what needs to be destroyed is mis-information
and slander which is being paraded as authority........
D: > These are not actually the issues, the issues are always
1. the motive behind (dressing up that way, etc) and
2. her qualifications. She cannot claim it as religious freedom
because she doesn't represent any religion (even in that she
doesn't have any qualification). It's just plain crazyness.
G: 1) once again you have no idea what my motivations are
or are not .... you are not inside of my consciousness ...
everyone is so concerned by my attire ? why? such
foolishness....... if i wear a sari while in india because
my husband wishes it, of what concern is that to you?
if i wear shorts here in the U.S. again what is that to you?
2) how do you know *What* i represent or do not .... once
again allegations of pretense going nowhere.... what is
crazyness is simply your tirade against someone you
know nothing about....... nor have taken any time to
find out if there is *ANY* truth to the accusations you
are spewing forth........
does a set of religious dogma make one a good teacher?
does one that is a universalist mean that they have no
qualifications ...... does a christian stance make it
better than a buddhis or hindu?
wake up....... i have nothing against you and truly hope
you find some peace .... for your anger and hatred while
directed towards me in the end have nothing to do with
me at all......... for every one of your comments has been
based upon assumptions which have no merit
if you want to say something against me then at least come up
with something that has some truth in it *somewhere* ......
but this name calling and posturing with empty inuendos is
beneath anyone that is truly on any type of spiritual path........
shanti om ....g....