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Re: [Meditation Society of America] Meditation and Non-Duality

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  • Bruce Morgen
    ... Ergo fantasizing and re-hashing are real, while a future and a past are imaginary. In fact, the fantasizing of a future is essentially yet another re-
    Message 1 of 7 , Feb 11, 2012
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      On 2/11/2012 5:29 AM, Sandeep wrote:
      Hi Bob,

      Very pertinent and succinct.
      Some comments in-between as below.



      On 09-02-2012 08:39, medit8ionsociety wrote:
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      The Witness factor

      Reality can only take place NOW, so any event that doesn't take place in the now can be excluded in any discussion about reality. As an example,
      most people spend about 99% of their mental time fantasizing about the future or rehashing the past, so all of these thoughts have nothing to do with
      reality.


      The fantasizing of a future..........is happening now.
      The re-hashing of a past is happening now.

      Ergo fantasizing and re-hashing
      are real, while a future and a
      past are imaginary.  In fact, the
      fantasizing of a future is
      essentially yet another re-
      hashing of the past, because
      memories (rather unreliably
      stored data and images) by
      definition reference the past,
      and memories are all the
      fantasizer (aka "thought") has to
      work with.                :-)


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    • Sandeep
      ... The act of fantasizing and re-hashing.........also........as-if. ... Indeed. The future is only a modification.......... a reactive creativity........ of
      Message 2 of 7 , Feb 11, 2012
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        On 12-02-2012 04:15, Bruce Morgen wrote:
         

        On 2/11/2012 5:29 AM, Sandeep wrote:

        Hi Bob,

        Very pertinent and succinct.
        Some comments in-between as below.



        On 09-02-2012 08:39, medit8ionsociety wrote:
         [snip]

         



        The Witness factor

        Reality can only take place NOW, so any event that doesn't take place in the now can be excluded in any discussion about reality. As an example,
        most people spend about 99% of their mental time fantasizing about the future or rehashing the past, so all of these thoughts have nothing to do with
        reality.


        The fantasizing of a future..........is happening now.
        The re-hashing of a past is happening now.

        Ergo fantasizing and re-hashing
        are real,

        The act of fantasizing and re-hashing.........also........as-if.


        while a future and a
        past are imaginary.  In fact, the
        fantasizing of a future is
        essentially yet another re-
        hashing of the past, because
        memories (rather unreliably
        stored data and images) by
        definition reference the past,
        and memories are all the
        fantasizer (aka "thought") has to
        work with.   

        Indeed.

        The future is only a modification.......... a reactive creativity........ of the past.


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