RE: [Meditation Society of America] Re: A Most Unusual Deathbed Scene
I wonder if Sean had a childhood like mine – if anyone in my family expressed a point of view that differed from that of other family members, there ensued screaming & yelling & maybe a broken dish or two. So, all these years later, I tend to feel a lot of anxiety when 2 people disagree. Especially if I feel some fondness for the people & can more or less see both points of view. I just want them to stop fighting. So it was a real shock to see that these 2 people actually regarded their disagreement as friendly.
It seems to take an awfully long time to overcome early conditioning.
It's like deja vu all over again. Or worse!! Nietzsche's Eternal Recurrence!
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "dan330033" <dan330033@...> wrote:
> --- In email@example.com, "walto" <calhorn@> wrote:
> > I'm going to honor Sean's request and not get into a tit-for-tat with you. These arguments are pointless and unbecoming, so I'm afraid you'll have to get a room with somebody else.
> D: Hi Walto -
> I wasn't aware we were arguing - to me it felt like expressing ideas for the enjoyment of it. There's no such thing as being "right" via words, in some kind of final way - I'm not looking for that.
> Discussing is fun - particularly if both discussants are enjoying themselves. Yes, I said "both" ... <s>
> I don't need to get a room - I already have a room with a view ... <s>
> > I'll conclude my bit by saying here that I disagree with most of your last post and add that if you weren't (as I fear) just making glib remarks and are sincerely interested in the stuff you asked about with respect to the nature of the self, I recommend you pick up Derek Parfit's first book.
> D: I am speaking from direct awareness/experience, not from someone's book, not to be glib, and not to pass on ideas I got from someone else. It's just how it makes sense to me, to express myself. As I said, for the enjoyment of it. Seems natural as a human being to express through words. Something about words being translated into ideas, and going back and forth through cyberspace, is appealing - not sure why.
> - Dan
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Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 8:26 PM
Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: A Most Unusual Deathbed SceneSean,
Thank you for expressing what I (and I assume many others) have been thinking for a long time. I value most of the posts on this forum and really appreciate all the work Bob has put in. But the few you mention seem to be in love with seeing their names on the forum associated with repetitive posts, which they may think come from an exalted state of enlightenment but are quite meaningless to lesser mortals like me. Sandeep seems to think that nothing matters, so I would ask - why bother posting here ??
-------------LOL.It is precisely because nothing matters, hence the pixelings.Incidentally, neither nothing matters............ nor......... nothing does not matter.
There was also a mention of the term "meaningless".
Meaningless is as much a meaning as any other meaning.
Hence an expression of the same creativity of thought...... which is the sense of a mind....... a sense of an individuated self.After all the sense of a a meaning (even of meaningless) ...
....has to co-exist with the sense of the entity......... for which the meaning(even of meaningless)...
..is a held meaning.
That........ to which neither a meaning, nor meaningless can be attributed....
.....cannot be referenced by even the term "That".
Or by these very pixels.