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A home run within first base

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  • Sandeep
    *A question, actually a series of questions posed to Ramana....and his succinct response ...reveals much. * ... I am often baffled and depressed during or
    Message 1 of 1 , Jul 8, 2010
      A question, actually a series of questions posed to Ramana....and his succinct response ...reveals much.

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      I am often baffled and depressed during or outside my meditation by thinking that there are millions of souls who are either quite ignorant or quite innocent, and are suffering intolerable pains and tortures in this world, e.g.,

      (a) starvation of the poor by famine, poverty or unemployment;
      (b) pain and suffering through diseases of ignorant people caused by ignorance of laws of hygiene, diet or poverty;
      (c) bombing of innocent women and children;
      (d) suffering through floods, earthquakes, etc., of innocent and poor persons;
      (e) killing of animals for food;
      (f) insects and lower animals being eaten up by higher animals in nature, and so on.

      I try to convince myself that all this must be due to their bad karma in past lives, but doubts still arise as to how and by whom their freewill was so directed as to force them to commit such actions.

      If it was due to desire, why or how did they come to get it, or such tendencies originally?

      If it is due to avidya, dehadhyas (body idea), etc., how can they be held responsible for the same?



      Ramana:

      First find out whether the ego exists, who is depressed by these thoughts.
      Find out how you got the idea of the body, solve this problem of your ego, and then see if anything remains to be solved.


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      Such a response today ..........would be denounced as the Advaitic shuffle or a dodge-employed by a no good neo-Advaitin.

      Specially in the cyber-based spiritual circuits.:-))



      Before the tackling of an issue........(and the arrival at the need to do meditation, whatever be the particular technique, method...
      ....is the feeling/hope/conclusion that meditation will aid the addressing of the issue...)...

      ....the  quest.......just who is it.....who owns that issue?

      Who or what is that, for which the issue, the question, the agony, the despair....the hope.....is of relevance, is of significance?

      For the content and intensity of the particular issue, question, agony, despair, hope .........changes with time and space.

      As does  the felt effectiveness of the particular remedy that was hereto used.



      Thus the changing content of the issue .........creates the movement from Hatha Yoga to crystal-gazings.

      -From Reiki to zazen.

      -From dynamic whirling to Vipassana.

      -From chanting to Scientology to Kaballah to Pranic healing to TM to whatever is the latest gizmo.

      The sense of pursuit remains intact as the sense that "there must be something better than this"..

      .aka the persisting issue...remains intact.


      To whom has the thought occurred that
      "there must be something better than this".

      What that "this" is about or however that "better" is defined........is irrelevant, immaterial.....

      .....but to whom is the entirety of the drama occurring......that is the first base.



      As Ramana mutters......resolve at the first base itself and then see whether a home run is still to be run.





      What happens, when the question is posed.......aka to whom is XXXX occuring, or to whom is this-whatever ....the issue?

      Typically, the answer would be a name, a "me" .......which is believed in-conglomeration of identities, usually relational.

      Aka, a son, a father, a wife, a mother, a soldier, a corporate executive, a regular-Joe-at-the-local-deli....a bum-on-the-street...

      ..or on the other end of the spectrum , a Islamist, Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Advaitin, a  spiritual seeker, a meditator-par-excellence,
      a Guru-who-has-reached...........et al.


      The quest remains the same......aka who is it that has accepted
      this conglomeration of identities as the "me-self"

      and who is it that holds on to that conglomeration...... for dear life?





      Soon, it dawns that all that is happening........whether it is that seemingly earth-shaking issue/fear/despair/hope.....

      ....or the profound defining of  the search, aka Enlightenment,  Sat-Chit-Anand, ParamBrahman, Source, Truth, Bozo.....

      ....all that is happening is a presentation of a display of thought, in extreme rapidity.


      This dawning lights up the apperceiving...........that when it is all a display of the creativity of thought....

      .....the sense of the very quest.......... aka who is it that is taking delivery of thought.......

      .....can only be a nuance of the same display of creative thought.





      The apperception that the arising of the very question is ........the play of thought..... as so.

      That, the surrounding of the arising ........as the very sense of ownership of the question is ....aka the sense of a "me"....is
      the play of thought....
      ... as so.

      That, the
      arising of the very answer, whatever that be....... is ........the play of thought....... as so.

      That, the conglomeration, all the strands of the very bundle of relational identities.......is ........
      the play of thought.....as so.

      That, the array of objects, with whom a relationship is in place, whether that object be an ideation, or warm physical body of a loved one(or unloved one)......
      is ........the play of thought.....as so.

      The falling of thought on itself..................(which is not a thought of thought falling on itself)

      This falling of thought on itself.......is the return.....

      ....... is the repentance....

      ... is religion(a term which originates from the root word
      religare, which means to re-connect)...

      .....is meditativeness.


      It's akin to a home run getting run without an iota of a stirring from the first base.




      No doubt, in the construction of this prattling, including the succinct response of the dude in the diaper.....

      ........thought has once again only expressed the depth of its creativity.




      Creativity usually abets continuity.....

      ....some rare eruptions ......arrests.




      As a display of what continuity would be like, what abetment or arrest of continuity would be like....

      .....if such like could ever be.




      Doooo Beeee Doooo Beeee Doooo

       



       



       


       



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