Re: [Meditation Society of America] It's A Beautiful Morning
- View Source--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Gregory Goode
> Hi Jeff,I suspect that you are talking about something that transcends the
feelings, but I'm not sure.
J: Feelings of peace and joy are attendants at the wedding, but not
the constant, of course. Yes, I refer to something ineffable that
transcends feelings. When Jesus offered the parable of the sower,
he spoke of three instances when word of "the kingdom" was received
with "joy" and then it failed to remain constant. In the forth and
final instant he speaks of the it being received "with joy and
understanding," The "understanding" distinction was the one that he
said would "bear fruit".
> We also disagree on a matter of style. I hardly ever talk aboutmyself or my "attainments" or whatchamacallits.
I do it as encouragement. The old "if I did it, so can you." I feel
that speaking from understanding (experiential knowledge) is secure
and credible, bringing the listener into personal contact with someone
who speaks of hope for a whatchamacallit from a personal account. As
you say, stylistic differences only.
>you do, teaching within the Christian framework. I think it is
> This leads to the major point of agreement. I fully support what
beneficial to those students, and is probably quite good for the
tarnished rep of Christianity.
Thanks. Yes, for me, the bible came alive, and as I read more
scripture from other paths, I saw distinct and clear parallels.
The church caused many in the Christian culture to throw out the
teachings of the Master in their effort to escape the oppressive dogma
of organized religion. I feel that Jesus never wanted an exclusive
club at all. He was able to relate to the culture of his time, as he
openly prayed to a "separate" Father-God, and to moved to a middle
ground with his declaration as "Son of God, and to the nondual ground
of "The Father and I are One...If you've seen me you have seen the
Father." Let me get out of the pulpit here.
>teach? Would you like some more info about this before you say
> Then you say, speaking of Greg, Judi and Jason,
> Where we disagree is
> on the process of discovery
> and on the result.
> To me, they've given up
> and see that as final wisdom.
> They only "teach" by negation
> and even negate any admission
> of their attempts to teach
> You hardly know me. Are you saying something about how/whether I
something about how/whether I teach? As I said, I don't talk about
myself too much, so there's who's to know? You might be pleasantly
surprised! Don't rely on some sassy comments I might have made on a
My apologies. I took too broad a swipe in my passion. I should have
confined that remark to "many" and not the stereotypical "they". As
Ben Franklin said, "A man in a passion rides a wild horse." Sorry,
Greg, I admire your clarity and gentle manner.
>Maine awaits in huddled masses. We've just dug out from a blustery one
> Love, here in a rainy, sleety NYC,
on Christmas day, and the weather wizards predict another foot or two
of snow. I'm rooting for Tampa in the Superbowl. They win. I move
there. Bob Rose can fly with the Eagles. I'll bask with the bikinis.
Love and gratitude,