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Meditation Is About More Than Enlightenment

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  • medit8ionsociety
    Over the many years we have held meditation classes, we always start the 1st class by asking the students why they are taking the course. Invariably, the great
    Message 1 of 2 , Sep 4 10:43 PM
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      Over the many years we have held meditation
      classes, we always start the 1st class by asking
      the students why they are taking the course.
      Invariably, the great majority would cite
      a need to be able to deal with stress better.
      My estimate is between 70% and 80% would
      answer this way, and 10-20% would say that
      their physician or therapist recommended it to
      them. We also always seemed to have a husband
      or wife or 2 who were there just because their
      spouse was taking the course. And we usually had
      several who had been "into" meditation for years,
      or were repeating the class, sometimes for years.
      What was unusual was that usually only one
      or two out of a class of 25 would say they were
      there to help them get enlightened. Not to brag,
      but to be informational, I want to share that
      each Adult Education program we taught for
      requested the students to evaluate the class
      right after the last (10th) one, and we always
      100% of the time received "Excellent" ratings.
      And this is due to the content and experiences
      that each class contained. And nothing in any
      way was "new under the sun". Each guided meditation
      and each "how-to" lesson and each concept was
      ancient in origin and we were just spinning it
      in 20th and 21st century American-english with
      a Philly accent. And those who came with no
      previous experience did gain hands-on 1st hand
      handy methods that they could apply to their
      lives immediately and ever after that did help
      them deal with stress, or deal with their
      physical, emotional, or mental dis-ease. So,
      please don't get the impression that getting
      Enlightened/Realized/Cosmic Conscious, etc., is
      what meditation is about. If that happens, fine!
      But what I feel matters is that there is no doubt
      that when you meditate you will suffer less in
      many ways and deal with your life better and better.
      For sure, it is the best thing you can learn and do.
      It will "work" (bring you peace) 100% for sure...
      if you actually meditate. Talking about it, reading
      about it, writing about it, etc., may or may not
      lead to anything, but actually meditating will.
      Here on this forum we are blessed with having very
      wise people sharing deep and important insights, and
      they are often aimed at those who are trying to
      "get Enlightened". And that is an amazing treasure
      worth more than gold or diamonds, but please don't
      get the impression that if you seek meditation
      knowledge for less lofty aims, there is something
      lacking in you or in what meditation can do for
      you. All you have to do is meditate.
      Peace and blessings,
      Bob
    • mindgoal
      ... Thanks, Bob. My experience is similar in that the stated purpose for taking a meditation class is most often about stress and how to better deal with
      Message 2 of 2 , Sep 5 11:50 AM
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        --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@...> wrote:
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        > Over the many years we have held meditation
        > classes, we always start the 1st class by asking
        > the students why they are taking the course.
        > Invariably, the great majority would cite
        > a need to be able to deal with stress better.
        > My estimate is between 70% and 80% would
        > answer this way, and 10-20% would say that
        > their physician or therapist recommended it to
        > them. We also always seemed to have a husband
        > or wife or 2 who were there just because their
        > spouse was taking the course. And we usually had
        > several who had been "into" meditation for years,
        > or were repeating the class, sometimes for years.
        > What was unusual was that usually only one
        > or two out of a class of 25 would say they were
        > there to help them get enlightened. Not to brag,
        > but to be informational, I want to share that
        > each Adult Education program we taught for
        > requested the students to evaluate the class
        > right after the last (10th) one, and we always
        > 100% of the time received "Excellent" ratings.
        > And this is due to the content and experiences
        > that each class contained. And nothing in any
        > way was "new under the sun". Each guided meditation
        > and each "how-to" lesson and each concept was
        > ancient in origin and we were just spinning it
        > in 20th and 21st century American-english with
        > a Philly accent. And those who came with no
        > previous experience did gain hands-on 1st hand
        > handy methods that they could apply to their
        > lives immediately and ever after that did help
        > them deal with stress, or deal with their
        > physical, emotional, or mental dis-ease. So,
        > please don't get the impression that getting
        > Enlightened/Realized/Cosmic Conscious, etc., is
        > what meditation is about. If that happens, fine!
        > But what I feel matters is that there is no doubt
        > that when you meditate you will suffer less in
        > many ways and deal with your life better and better.
        > For sure, it is the best thing you can learn and do.
        > It will "work" (bring you peace) 100% for sure...
        > if you actually meditate. Talking about it, reading
        > about it, writing about it, etc., may or may not
        > lead to anything, but actually meditating will.
        > Here on this forum we are blessed with having very
        > wise people sharing deep and important insights, and
        > they are often aimed at those who are trying to
        > "get Enlightened". And that is an amazing treasure
        > worth more than gold or diamonds, but please don't
        > get the impression that if you seek meditation
        > knowledge for less lofty aims, there is something
        > lacking in you or in what meditation can do for
        > you. All you have to do is meditate.
        > Peace and blessings,
        > Bob
        >

        Thanks, Bob. My experience
        is similar in that the stated
        purpose for taking a meditation
        class is most often about stress
        and how to better deal with
        stressful situations or feel
        less stress in general.

        As well, many come to meditation
        as a goal achievement strategy
        to help them relax and gain
        clarity and motivation to achieve
        their goals. Many people use
        meditation as a relaxation
        technique to replace smoking
        or overeating, and a good number
        of clients use meditation for
        sports performance improvement.

        However...

        from my perspective, in many
        cases, the stress reduction and
        habit control or even the goal
        achievement interests are the
        vinear issues covering a deeper
        existential angst - a feeling
        of separation and intutive
        stirring (longing) for connection
        to something in life - a search
        for inner peace and a more
        heartfelt connection to the
        living experience (which often
        comes up after the initial
        class or two, especially in
        one-on-one meditation sessions)...

        which might be called...

        Awakening, Enlightenment,
        Self-Actualization, Self-
        Realization...and a host
        of other labels, depending
        on culture and tradition.

        All models (paradigms) for
        the same...

        One Love,

        Jeff
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