Re: [Meditation Society of America] Osho on False Buddhahood
- There is an interesting tale (myth?)
about when Gautama (Buddha) awakened
and was walking along a path down
the mountain when he met a monk. In
his delight, Buddha told the monk
that he had awakened.
The story goes that the monk continued
on his way, shaking his head, saying...
"If only it were so."
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, sean tremblay <bethjams9@...> wrote:
> I have often thought that was the case that's why I am very sceptical about peoples claims!
> --- On Sat, 7/18/09, medit8ionsociety <email@example.com> wrote:
> From: medit8ionsociety <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Osho on False Buddhahood
> To: email@example.com
> Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 9:32 PM
> Question: Is it possible to believe that
> one has just attained Buddhahood? And is
> it possible just to believe like that only
> because of the ego? And if it is possible,
> then how to avoid it?Osho : IT IS VERY MUCH
> POSSIBLE. Many times your ego will I deceive
> you. It will say, "You have arrived, you have
> attained." By saying that it will prevent you
> from attaining, because when you have attained
> there is no need to make any more effort. When
> you have already attained, then what is the
> point of going on troubling yourself? That is
> the last trap ego throws at you.
> First it says, "It is foolish to try to attain
> Buddhahood. It does not happen in the very nature
> of things. It is all nonsense, fiction. Don't be
> mystified by these words!" First the ego will
> say, "It is impossible. It has never happened
> and it is not going to happen." But if you don't
> listen and you go on and on, the ego will try many
> other ways to distract you.
> The last will be: one day, seeing that now you
> don't listen, the ego can say to you, "Now look!
> You have had it, it has happened. This is satori,
> this is samadhi. You have become a Buddha." This
> has to be encountered by every seeker.
> The real enemy is not outside you, and the real
> distraction never comes from the outside -- it
> comes from the inside. Buddha has said, "The enemy
> is within, and the friend is within -- both are
> within you." If you listen to the enemy, the ego,
> it will go on befooling you, deluding you.
> Naturally, there is nothing much more than
> Buddhahood. If the ego can feel that "I have
> attained" then you are at the top of the world.
> Even an Alexander is nothing before you. The
> richest man is just poor before you; the most
> powerful man is nothing, helpless before you.
> You have become omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent --
> you have become a god. The ego can do that. And it
> will do! Unless you are very, very alert.
> And when it starts playing such tricks on you,
> you will tend to accept it because it is so sweet
> It is so beautiful to accept these ideas. Knowing
> well that nothing has happened -- because how can
> you befool yourself? -- knowing well that nothing
> has happened, still you will tend to become a victim.
> Two old men meet on a corner.
> First old man: "Where have you been for the past eight weeks?"
> Second old man: "In jail."
> First old man: "You in jail? How come?"
> Second old man: "Well, about eight weeks ago I
> was standing on a corner, and this beautiful young
> girl rushes up with a policeman and says, 'He's the
> man, officer. He's the one who attacked me.' I tell
> you, I felt so flattered, I admitted it."
> It is possible. A man of eighty, if a beautiful girl
> rushes up with a policeman and says, "This man has
> attacked me," can feel flattered. It is worth going
> to jail for a few weeks. He could not say no.
> When the idea is thrown at you from your ego that
> you have attained, it is so charming, it is so
> hypnotizing, it is so attractive, it is incomparably
> attractive. And knowing well somewhere deep down --
> how can you not know? -- knowing well, perfectly,
> that it has not happened! You are just the same,
> with the same anger, with the same jealousy, with
> the same possessiveness, with ALL the nonsense that
> has been there -- it is still there. But still you
> would like to accept it.
> Then you ask me: AND IF IT CAN HAPPEN LIKE THAT,
> THEN HOW TO AVOID IT?
> The only way to know, the only way to judge
> whether it has really happened or is just an
> ego trap, is that when it really happens you
> don't have the feeling of attainment at all.
> When it REALLY happens you don't feel that you
> have attained. You don't feel that you have arrived,
> that you have achieved. There is no trace of
> achievement at all -- because WHO can achieve
> it? In the very process of achieving it you have
> disappeared, so who call claim it? Who can say,
> "I have come, I have attained"? The 'I' is no more!
> This is the only criterion: when you really attain,
> there is no feeling of attainment at all. There is
> NOBODY to attain it and nobody to claim it. There
> is immense silence. All that garbage of attainment
> -- of attaining this and attaining that -- has all
> disappeared. The whole crowd has gone. You are left
> utterly in silence. Not even for a single moment
> does the idea arise: "Now I have attained!"
> And you know it has happened, but there is no
> feeling of attainment. Let me repeat: You know
> it has happened. But remember, it is a happening --
> because you don't find yourself at all! You are
> not there! It HAS happened! You are empty, you are
> absent; you look in all directions and you don't
> find yourself at all. You are nowhere to be found.
> That old guy has disappeared without leaving a trace.
> You KNOW it! It has happened, but there is no
> feeling of attainment.
> Attainment is an ego feeling; achievement is
> the desire of the ego. So remember the difference
> between a happening and an achieving. Ego is the
> achiever. So if any trace of achievement lingers
> in you, and any feeling of attainment comes to
> you, and you start feeling strong, worthy, great --
> then you can be certain you have missed again.
> When it really happens, there is no claimant
> left. One simply is it. Not that you become
> Buddha -- suddenly you understand you are not,
> only Buddha is. It brings great humbleness.
> There is no assertion.
> Source: from his book
> "Zen: The Path of Paradox, Volume 3" by Osho
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