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  • sean tremblay
    I think most of us remember what it was like to dwell in the garden of Eden,  I know I do but the way back is pretty rough and I lost my compass ... From:
    Message 1 of 4 , Jun 25, 2009
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      I think most of us remember what it was like to dwell in the garden of Eden,  I know I do but the way back is pretty rough and I lost my compass

      --- On Thu, 6/25/09, Jeff Belyea <jeff@...> wrote:

      From: Jeff Belyea <jeff@...>
      Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Fruit Stand
      To: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 9:39 AM

      In the story of creation,
      God tells Adam and Eve
      they may eat freely from
      the Tree of Life and
      enjoy Paradise forever...

      and then tells them not
      to eat from the tree of
      the knowledge of good
      and evil.

      From that it would follow -
      before the first bite
      of the forbidden fruit,
      A&E enjoyed a frolic in
      Paradise.

      But, after, they became
      self-conscious, found
      fig leaves, and hid from
      God. The story goes that
      they were soon booted
      out of Paradise. Ouch!

      Now, what if..they asked
      for a second chance, and
      asked God to remove their
      knowledge of good and
      evil and restore their
      earlier blissful state?

      Imagine that God, being
      in a good mode that day,
      said OK, and A&E were
      allowed to step back
      into Paradise. Wow!

      What do you think would
      happen if we (descendants
      of A&E) were to suddenly
      lose our knowledge of good
      and evil?

      Some would say that we
      would be in pathological
      denial and foolish, and
      would soon be blindsided
      by some nogoodnik - and
      evil would run rampant.

      Others would say that we
      would enter a blissful
      state in which we then
      felt a Oneness with God,
      and incredibly loving
      and kind, and that the
      power of this state would
      actually cause us to accept
      everything, everything
      as perfect - no matter what;
      that we would have stepped
      back into Paradise.

      Now, before you take a
      quick munch on that fruit
      that has convinced you
      that the latter group
      would be abjectly naive,
      and then come up with some
      hypothetical or distantly
      removed 'evil' out there...

      consider the possibility
      that by being restored to
      realization that we are
      a spark of God's own fire
      (OK, clay, too) we suddenly
      found that no evil came to
      us...and that any potential
      evil would dissipate as
      soon as we came close to it -
      because of the restored
      power that has no knowledge
      of good and evil. Ummm?

      Consider also the possibility
      that this restored power would
      allow us to live without a
      trace of fear and doubt about
      anything - up to and including
      death. In this state, even
      death would only be a merging
      with God and eternal Paradise.

      But how would be know if
      this wonderful possibility
      has any basis in truth?
      Do we have to die first?

      No.

      Read any number of the tons
      of written material on the
      subject by authentic teachers
      and masters of awakened
      enlightenment who have
      walked the mystic path.
      This is their consistent
      story.

      If you're fortunate enough
      to know a living teacher,
      they can help open your
      heart to the possibility
      of the truth of such a
      delicious story.

      But your heart has to be
      open, and/or your despair
      deep enough to allow for
      the possibility. All it
      takes is a very small
      opening in your heart and
      mind for the light to
      break through.

      Meditation is a way to sit
      in the quiet of the garden,
      allow your heart to open
      and patiently listen for
      the wisdom whisper of
      enlightenment. ..

      that says...

      it's true.

      One Love,

      Jeff


    • Jeff Belyea
      Check your inner compass. You may find that you still dwell there, but the way of the world has distorted the view. Love, Jeff
      Message 2 of 4 , Jun 25, 2009
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        Check your inner compass.

        You may find that you
        still dwell there, but
        the 'way of the world'
        has distorted the view.

        Love,

        Jeff


        --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, sean tremblay <bethjams9@...> wrote:
        >
        > I think most of us remember what it was like to dwell in the garden of Eden,  I know I do but the way back is pretty rough and I lost my compass
        >
        > --- On Thu, 6/25/09, Jeff Belyea <jeff@...> wrote:
        >
        >
        > From: Jeff Belyea <jeff@...>
        > Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Fruit Stand
        > To: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
        > Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 9:39 AM
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > In the story of creation,
        > God tells Adam and Eve
        > they may eat freely from
        > the Tree of Life and
        > enjoy Paradise forever...
        >
        > and then tells them not
        > to eat from the tree of
        > the knowledge of good
        > and evil.
        >
        > From that it would follow -
        > before the first bite
        > of the forbidden fruit,
        > A&E enjoyed a frolic in
        > Paradise.
        >
        > But, after, they became
        > self-conscious, found
        > fig leaves, and hid from
        > God. The story goes that
        > they were soon booted
        > out of Paradise. Ouch!
        >
        > Now, what if..they asked
        > for a second chance, and
        > asked God to remove their
        > knowledge of good and
        > evil and restore their
        > earlier blissful state?
        >
        > Imagine that God, being
        > in a good mode that day,
        > said OK, and A&E were
        > allowed to step back
        > into Paradise. Wow!
        >
        > What do you think would
        > happen if we (descendants
        > of A&E) were to suddenly
        > lose our knowledge of good
        > and evil?
        >
        > Some would say that we
        > would be in pathological
        > denial and foolish, and
        > would soon be blindsided
        > by some nogoodnik - and
        > evil would run rampant.
        >
        > Others would say that we
        > would enter a blissful
        > state in which we then
        > felt a Oneness with God,
        > and incredibly loving
        > and kind, and that the
        > power of this state would
        > actually cause us to accept
        > everything, everything
        > as perfect - no matter what;
        > that we would have stepped
        > back into Paradise.
        >
        > Now, before you take a
        > quick munch on that fruit
        > that has convinced you
        > that the latter group
        > would be abjectly naive,
        > and then come up with some
        > hypothetical or distantly
        > removed 'evil' out there...
        >
        > consider the possibility
        > that by being restored to
        > realization that we are
        > a spark of God's own fire
        > (OK, clay, too) we suddenly
        > found that no evil came to
        > us...and that any potential
        > evil would dissipate as
        > soon as we came close to it -
        > because of the restored
        > power that has no knowledge
        > of good and evil. Ummm?
        >
        > Consider also the possibility
        > that this restored power would
        > allow us to live without a
        > trace of fear and doubt about
        > anything - up to and including
        > death. In this state, even
        > death would only be a merging
        > with God and eternal Paradise.
        >
        > But how would be know if
        > this wonderful possibility
        > has any basis in truth?
        > Do we have to die first?
        >
        > No.
        >
        > Read any number of the tons
        > of written material on the
        > subject by authentic teachers
        > and masters of awakened
        > enlightenment who have
        > walked the mystic path.
        > This is their consistent
        > story.
        >
        > If you're fortunate enough
        > to know a living teacher,
        > they can help open your
        > heart to the possibility
        > of the truth of such a
        > delicious story.
        >
        > But your heart has to be
        > open, and/or your despair
        > deep enough to allow for
        > the possibility. All it
        > takes is a very small
        > opening in your heart and
        > mind for the light to
        > break through.
        >
        > Meditation is a way to sit
        > in the quiet of the garden,
        > allow your heart to open
        > and patiently listen for
        > the wisdom whisper of
        > enlightenment. ..
        >
        > that says...
        >
        > it's true.
        >
        > One Love,
        >
        > Jeff
        >
      • Bruce Morgen
        Sean, I know it s hard to see from where you re currently standing, but you never really left The Garden -- we all carry it with us, but most of us fail to
        Message 3 of 4 , Jun 25, 2009
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          Sean, I know it's hard to see
          from where you're currently
          standing, but you never really
          left The Garden -- we all carry
          it with us, but most of us fail
          to notice it. As The Gospel of
          Thomas reports Jesus as saying,
          "The Kingdom of God is within
          you."


          sean tremblay wrote:
          >
          >
          > I think most of us remember what it was like to dwell in the garden of
          > Eden, I know I do but the way back is pretty rough and I lost my compass
          >
          > --- On *Thu, 6/25/09, Jeff Belyea /<jeff@...>/* wrote:
          >
          >
          > From: Jeff Belyea <jeff@...>
          > Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Fruit Stand
          > To: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
          > Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 9:39 AM
          >
          > In the story of creation,
          > God tells Adam and Eve
          > they may eat freely from
          > the Tree of Life and
          > enjoy Paradise forever...
          >
          > and then tells them not
          > to eat from the tree of
          > the knowledge of good
          > and evil.
          >
          > From that it would follow -
          > before the first bite
          > of the forbidden fruit,
          > A&E enjoyed a frolic in
          > Paradise.
          >
          > But, after, they became
          > self-conscious, found
          > fig leaves, and hid from
          > God. The story goes that
          > they were soon booted
          > out of Paradise. Ouch!
          >
          > Now, what if..they asked
          > for a second chance, and
          > asked God to remove their
          > knowledge of good and
          > evil and restore their
          > earlier blissful state?
          >
          > Imagine that God, being
          > in a good mode that day,
          > said OK, and A&E were
          > allowed to step back
          > into Paradise. Wow!
          >
          > What do you think would
          > happen if we (descendants
          > of A&E) were to suddenly
          > lose our knowledge of good
          > and evil?
          >
          > Some would say that we
          > would be in pathological
          > denial and foolish, and
          > would soon be blindsided
          > by some nogoodnik - and
          > evil would run rampant.
          >
          > Others would say that we
          > would enter a blissful
          > state in which we then
          > felt a Oneness with God,
          > and incredibly loving
          > and kind, and that the
          > power of this state would
          > actually cause us to accept
          > everything, everything
          > as perfect - no matter what;
          > that we would have stepped
          > back into Paradise.
          >
          > Now, before you take a
          > quick munch on that fruit
          > that has convinced you
          > that the latter group
          > would be abjectly naive,
          > and then come up with some
          > hypothetical or distantly
          > removed 'evil' out there...
          >
          > consider the possibility
          > that by being restored to
          > realization that we are
          > a spark of God's own fire
          > (OK, clay, too) we suddenly
          > found that no evil came to
          > us...and that any potential
          > evil would dissipate as
          > soon as we came close to it -
          > because of the restored
          > power that has no knowledge
          > of good and evil. Ummm?
          >
          > Consider also the possibility
          > that this restored power would
          > allow us to live without a
          > trace of fear and doubt about
          > anything - up to and including
          > death. In this state, even
          > death would only be a merging
          > with God and eternal Paradise.
          >
          > But how would be know if
          > this wonderful possibility
          > has any basis in truth?
          > Do we have to die first?
          >
          > No.
          >
          > Read any number of the tons
          > of written material on the
          > subject by authentic teachers
          > and masters of awakened
          > enlightenment who have
          > walked the mystic path.
          > This is their consistent
          > story.
          >
          > If you're fortunate enough
          > to know a living teacher,
          > they can help open your
          > heart to the possibility
          > of the truth of such a
          > delicious story.
          >
          > But your heart has to be
          > open, and/or your despair
          > deep enough to allow for
          > the possibility. All it
          > takes is a very small
          > opening in your heart and
          > mind for the light to
          > break through.
          >
          > Meditation is a way to sit
          > in the quiet of the garden,
          > allow your heart to open
          > and patiently listen for
          > the wisdom whisper of
          > enlightenment. ..
          >
          > that says...
          >
          > it's true.
          >
          > One Love,
          >
          > Jeff
          >
          >
          >
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