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  • medit8ionsociety
    Lots more of Papajeff s wisdom is shared in an ongoing fashion at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mysticheartmeditation/ Enjoy!
    Message 1 of 4 , May 22, 2009
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      Lots more of Papajeff's wisdom is shared
      in an ongoing fashion at:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mysticheartmeditation/
      Enjoy!

      "Jeff Belyea" <jeff@...> wrote:
      >
      > A pretty smart guy whose
      > name is synonymous with
      > 'smart', once said something
      > like, "You can't use the
      > same mind that created the
      > problem to solve the problem."
      >
      > So, what do we do if
      > we have a problem -
      > especially a recurring
      > problem - in our lives?
      >
      > There's no 'Returns' counter
      > where we can exchange our
      > mind for a more efficient
      > one...or is there?
      >
      > Well, there is such a place.
      > But we typically don't go there
      > because we either have been told
      > that it doesn't exist, or we're
      > convinced that our logical,
      > rational, linear mind process
      > is the only way to solve a
      > problem.
      >
      > Neither of those two reasons
      > are valld. There is a 'place'
      > where we can (ex)change our
      > minds...and there is a better
      > and more excellent way to
      > solve any and all of our
      > problems in life.
      >
      > The 'place' is within us.
      > Finding the portal to the
      > Mystic Heart and entering
      > into the wisdom contained
      > there immediately trumps
      > the linear thought process.
      >
      > The wisdom whisper from
      > the Mystic Heart 'changes'
      > our mind, our level of
      > consciousness, and opens
      > the door to what seems to be
      > an entirely new life and
      > a new mind, called by some,
      > 'the mind of Christ' or
      > Christ Consciousness,
      > Krishna Consciousness,
      > Buddhahood, Enlightenment,
      > Awakening, Self-Actualization -
      > take your pick.
      >
      > Now, the thinking process
      > with which we are so
      > identified adamantly
      > denies that there are any
      > means beyond the linear
      > and rational process
      > available to us.
      >
      > This 'identity' to which
      > we are typically so attached
      > is commonly called 'ego'.
      > And the ego insists that
      > there is no 'power' greater
      > than our ability to think
      > things through.
      >
      > The ego will allow for
      > faith in something unseen
      > or the superstitious acceptance
      > of limits imposed by creed
      > and dogma, but the ego sees
      > through this blind and knows
      > that deep, deep down we are
      > often filled with dark
      > disturbing doubts about
      > the veracity of 'faith'.
      > And so the ego is not threatened
      > by faith. But...
      >
      > When we begin to move past
      > our doubts and respond to an
      > inner stirring that tells us
      > there 'must be something more'
      > than a life of fear and doubt
      > that pops up so often - and
      > leaves most living a life of
      > quiet desperation (Thoreau),
      > then the ego is threatened.
      >
      > If we convince ourselves (our
      > ego convinces us) that there
      > is no other way and we are
      > superficially appeased by some
      > pablum from the pulpit, that
      > may be enough to stop the
      > inquiry...for a time.
      >
      > But if the 'problem' persists
      > and the longing for peace
      > of mind grows strong enough,
      > we will come to a point where
      > the 'search' for peace of mind
      > takes priority. And priority
      > has no plural. We don't get
      > our priorities straight. There
      > can only be one priority,
      > otherwise we've made diluted
      > commitments and as soon as
      > the ego mounts any kind of
      > defense to keep us from pressing
      > on with our search (and it will)
      > we go back to our cocoon of
      > denial about our discontent.
      >
      > So, where is the road map to
      > the portal to the Mystic Heart?
      > This Mapquest reads:
      >
      > Travel along Meditation Avenue,
      > and occasionally come to several
      > Loving Awareness traffic lights
      > along the way. More and more of
      > them will pop up as you continue on
      > Meditation Avenue for a time.
      >
      > As you continue, you will notice
      > a quiet stillness set in, and you
      > most probably will hit a stretch
      > of road where the energy grid
      > seems to go out and everything
      > is dark and somewhat scary -
      > but only for a short time, this
      > time. (Usually the long and
      > extended 'dark night of the soul'
      > which has already been experienced
      > is what precipitated the search,
      > so this last ditch effort by the
      > ego is over-ridden by the commitment
      > to complete the journey no matter
      > what.)
      >
      > This is where all but the most
      > committed searchers turn back.
      >
      > But if you continue until your
      > come to a place of absolute
      > stillness...the lights will
      > come back on, and you'll find
      > yourself in an entirely new world -
      > a world of peace of mind, joy
      > and contentment - and a new
      > mind, capable of solving problems
      > in an entirely new way.
      >
      > This new way cannot be explained.
      > It can only be experienced.
      >
      > You'll know when you're ready
      > for the journey. If you want
      > a traveling companion, drop
      > me a private email. If you've
      > made the journey, I'd love
      > to read about it here.
      >
      > Love,
      >
      > Jeff
      >
    • sean tremblay
      How do you get an entire nation who has suffered 35 years of constant war and oppression to change thier minds? I m gettin friggin frustrated over here Like
      Message 2 of 4 , May 23, 2009
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        How do you get an entire nation who has suffered 35 years of constant war and oppression to change thier minds?
        I'm gettin friggin frustrated over here
        Like I'm wasting my fuckin time with these folks, I think I need to wade neck deep in the cool ocean and feel the sand run between my toes as the tide rolls out, then a cold beer and a massage!
        maybe?

        --- On Fri, 5/22/09, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

        From: medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
        Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: A Change of Mind - Crosspost from Mystic Heart
        To: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 7:24 PM

        Lots more of Papajeff's wisdom is shared
        in an ongoing fashion at:
        http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mystichear tmeditation/
        Enjoy!

        "Jeff Belyea" <jeff@...> wrote:
        >
        > A pretty smart guy whose
        > name is synonymous with
        > 'smart', once said something
        > like, "You can't use the
        > same mind that created the
        > problem to solve the problem."
        >
        > So, what do we do if
        > we have a problem -
        > especially a recurring
        > problem - in our lives?
        >
        > There's no 'Returns' counter
        > where we can exchange our
        > mind for a more efficient
        > one...or is there?
        >
        > Well, there is such a place.
        > But we typically don't go there
        > because we either have been told
        > that it doesn't exist, or we're
        > convinced that our logical,
        > rational, linear mind process
        > is the only way to solve a
        > problem.
        >
        > Neither of those two reasons
        > are valld. There is a 'place'
        > where we can (ex)change our
        > minds...and there is a better
        > and more excellent way to
        > solve any and all of our
        > problems in life.
        >
        > The 'place' is within us.
        > Finding the portal to the
        > Mystic Heart and entering
        > into the wisdom contained
        > there immediately trumps
        > the linear thought process.
        >
        > The wisdom whisper from
        > the Mystic Heart 'changes'
        > our mind, our level of
        > consciousness, and opens
        > the door to what seems to be
        > an entirely new life and
        > a new mind, called by some,
        > 'the mind of Christ' or
        > Christ Consciousness,
        > Krishna Consciousness,
        > Buddhahood, Enlightenment,
        > Awakening, Self-Actualization -
        > take your pick.
        >
        > Now, the thinking process
        > with which we are so
        > identified adamantly
        > denies that there are any
        > means beyond the linear
        > and rational process
        > available to us.
        >
        > This 'identity' to which
        > we are typically so attached
        > is commonly called 'ego'.
        > And the ego insists that
        > there is no 'power' greater
        > than our ability to think
        > things through.
        >
        > The ego will allow for
        > faith in something unseen
        > or the superstitious acceptance
        > of limits imposed by creed
        > and dogma, but the ego sees
        > through this blind and knows
        > that deep, deep down we are
        > often filled with dark
        > disturbing doubts about
        > the veracity of 'faith'.
        > And so the ego is not threatened
        > by faith. But...
        >
        > When we begin to move past
        > our doubts and respond to an
        > inner stirring that tells us
        > there 'must be something more'
        > than a life of fear and doubt
        > that pops up so often - and
        > leaves most living a life of
        > quiet desperation (Thoreau),
        > then the ego is threatened.
        >
        > If we convince ourselves (our
        > ego convinces us) that there
        > is no other way and we are
        > superficially appeased by some
        > pablum from the pulpit, that
        > may be enough to stop the
        > inquiry...for a time.
        >
        > But if the 'problem' persists
        > and the longing for peace
        > of mind grows strong enough,
        > we will come to a point where
        > the 'search' for peace of mind
        > takes priority. And priority
        > has no plural. We don't get
        > our priorities straight. There
        > can only be one priority,
        > otherwise we've made diluted
        > commitments and as soon as
        > the ego mounts any kind of
        > defense to keep us from pressing
        > on with our search (and it will)
        > we go back to our cocoon of
        > denial about our discontent.
        >
        > So, where is the road map to
        > the portal to the Mystic Heart?
        > This Mapquest reads:
        >
        > Travel along Meditation Avenue,
        > and occasionally come to several
        > Loving Awareness traffic lights
        > along the way. More and more of
        > them will pop up as you continue on
        > Meditation Avenue for a time.
        >
        > As you continue, you will notice
        > a quiet stillness set in, and you
        > most probably will hit a stretch
        > of road where the energy grid
        > seems to go out and everything
        > is dark and somewhat scary -
        > but only for a short time, this
        > time. (Usually the long and
        > extended 'dark night of the soul'
        > which has already been experienced
        > is what precipitated the search,
        > so this last ditch effort by the
        > ego is over-ridden by the commitment
        > to complete the journey no matter
        > what.)
        >
        > This is where all but the most
        > committed searchers turn back.
        >
        > But if you continue until your
        > come to a place of absolute
        > stillness... the lights will
        > come back on, and you'll find
        > yourself in an entirely new world -
        > a world of peace of mind, joy
        > and contentment - and a new
        > mind, capable of solving problems
        > in an entirely new way.
        >
        > This new way cannot be explained.
        > It can only be experienced.
        >
        > You'll know when you're ready
        > for the journey. If you want
        > a traveling companion, drop
        > me a private email. If you've
        > made the journey, I'd love
        > to read about it here.
        >
        > Love,
        >
        > Jeff
        >


      • Jeff Belyea
        One by one. Could take eons of time. Mother Nature moves a lot slower than us temporary beings. But that doesn t mean we cannot address what is believed to be
        Message 3 of 4 , May 23, 2009
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          One by one. Could take eons of time.
          Mother Nature moves a lot slower than
          us temporary beings. But that doesn't
          mean we cannot address what is
          believed to be the destiny of humankind -
          if we don't blow the planet up first;
          in which case, a new script will be
          written and we may evolve to an entirely
          new species.

          Count me in on the ocean stroll,
          san between the toes, cold beer and
          massage.

          Love,

          Jeff

          --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, sean tremblay <bethjams9@...> wrote:
          >
          > How do you get an entire nation who has suffered 35 years of constant war and oppression to change thier minds?
          > I'm gettin friggin frustrated over here
          > Like I'm wasting my fuckin time with these folks, I think I need to wade neck deep in the cool ocean and feel the sand run between my toes as the tide rolls out, then a cold beer and a massage!
          > maybe?
          >
          > --- On Fri, 5/22/09, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
          >
          >
          > From: medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
          > Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: A Change of Mind - Crosspost from Mystic Heart
          > To: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
          > Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 7:24 PM
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > Lots more of Papajeff's wisdom is shared
          > in an ongoing fashion at:
          > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mystichear tmeditation/
          > Enjoy!
          >
          > "Jeff Belyea" <jeff@> wrote:
          > >
          > > A pretty smart guy whose
          > > name is synonymous with
          > > 'smart', once said something
          > > like, "You can't use the
          > > same mind that created the
          > > problem to solve the problem."
          > >
          > > So, what do we do if
          > > we have a problem -
          > > especially a recurring
          > > problem - in our lives?
          > >
          > > There's no 'Returns' counter
          > > where we can exchange our
          > > mind for a more efficient
          > > one...or is there?
          > >
          > > Well, there is such a place.
          > > But we typically don't go there
          > > because we either have been told
          > > that it doesn't exist, or we're
          > > convinced that our logical,
          > > rational, linear mind process
          > > is the only way to solve a
          > > problem.
          > >
          > > Neither of those two reasons
          > > are valld. There is a 'place'
          > > where we can (ex)change our
          > > minds...and there is a better
          > > and more excellent way to
          > > solve any and all of our
          > > problems in life.
          > >
          > > The 'place' is within us.
          > > Finding the portal to the
          > > Mystic Heart and entering
          > > into the wisdom contained
          > > there immediately trumps
          > > the linear thought process.
          > >
          > > The wisdom whisper from
          > > the Mystic Heart 'changes'
          > > our mind, our level of
          > > consciousness, and opens
          > > the door to what seems to be
          > > an entirely new life and
          > > a new mind, called by some,
          > > 'the mind of Christ' or
          > > Christ Consciousness,
          > > Krishna Consciousness,
          > > Buddhahood, Enlightenment,
          > > Awakening, Self-Actualization -
          > > take your pick.
          > >
          > > Now, the thinking process
          > > with which we are so
          > > identified adamantly
          > > denies that there are any
          > > means beyond the linear
          > > and rational process
          > > available to us.
          > >
          > > This 'identity' to which
          > > we are typically so attached
          > > is commonly called 'ego'.
          > > And the ego insists that
          > > there is no 'power' greater
          > > than our ability to think
          > > things through.
          > >
          > > The ego will allow for
          > > faith in something unseen
          > > or the superstitious acceptance
          > > of limits imposed by creed
          > > and dogma, but the ego sees
          > > through this blind and knows
          > > that deep, deep down we are
          > > often filled with dark
          > > disturbing doubts about
          > > the veracity of 'faith'.
          > > And so the ego is not threatened
          > > by faith. But...
          > >
          > > When we begin to move past
          > > our doubts and respond to an
          > > inner stirring that tells us
          > > there 'must be something more'
          > > than a life of fear and doubt
          > > that pops up so often - and
          > > leaves most living a life of
          > > quiet desperation (Thoreau),
          > > then the ego is threatened.
          > >
          > > If we convince ourselves (our
          > > ego convinces us) that there
          > > is no other way and we are
          > > superficially appeased by some
          > > pablum from the pulpit, that
          > > may be enough to stop the
          > > inquiry...for a time.
          > >
          > > But if the 'problem' persists
          > > and the longing for peace
          > > of mind grows strong enough,
          > > we will come to a point where
          > > the 'search' for peace of mind
          > > takes priority. And priority
          > > has no plural. We don't get
          > > our priorities straight. There
          > > can only be one priority,
          > > otherwise we've made diluted
          > > commitments and as soon as
          > > the ego mounts any kind of
          > > defense to keep us from pressing
          > > on with our search (and it will)
          > > we go back to our cocoon of
          > > denial about our discontent.
          > >
          > > So, where is the road map to
          > > the portal to the Mystic Heart?
          > > This Mapquest reads:
          > >
          > > Travel along Meditation Avenue,
          > > and occasionally come to several
          > > Loving Awareness traffic lights
          > > along the way. More and more of
          > > them will pop up as you continue on
          > > Meditation Avenue for a time.
          > >
          > > As you continue, you will notice
          > > a quiet stillness set in, and you
          > > most probably will hit a stretch
          > > of road where the energy grid
          > > seems to go out and everything
          > > is dark and somewhat scary -
          > > but only for a short time, this
          > > time. (Usually the long and
          > > extended 'dark night of the soul'
          > > which has already been experienced
          > > is what precipitated the search,
          > > so this last ditch effort by the
          > > ego is over-ridden by the commitment
          > > to complete the journey no matter
          > > what.)
          > >
          > > This is where all but the most
          > > committed searchers turn back.
          > >
          > > But if you continue until your
          > > come to a place of absolute
          > > stillness... the lights will
          > > come back on, and you'll find
          > > yourself in an entirely new world -
          > > a world of peace of mind, joy
          > > and contentment - and a new
          > > mind, capable of solving problems
          > > in an entirely new way.
          > >
          > > This new way cannot be explained.
          > > It can only be experienced.
          > >
          > > You'll know when you're ready
          > > for the journey. If you want
          > > a traveling companion, drop
          > > me a private email. If you've
          > > made the journey, I'd love
          > > to read about it here.
          > >
          > > Love,
          > >
          > > Jeff
          > >
          >
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