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  • Jeff Belyea <jeff@mindgoal.com>
    Judi - Oh, I think we picked out what applies, appropriately. Are your shoes too tight? Jeff
    Message 1 of 11 , Jan 2, 2003
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      Judi -

      Oh, I think we picked out
      what applies, appropriately.

      Are your shoes too tight?

      Jeff

      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "judirhodes
      <judirhodes@z...>" <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
      > Here "Jeff", perhaps you missed this part from the ranch list
      > description:
      >
      > and those merely seeking attention by gabbing about how blissful,
      > happy, loving, smart, or even how dumb they think they are simply
      > need not apply here.
      >
      > eh?
      >
      > Judi
      >
      >
      >
      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "judirhodes
      > <judirhodes@z...>" <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
      > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Belyea
      > > <jeff@m...>" <jeff@m...> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Judi -
      > > >
      > > > Here's are excerpts from the intro
      > > > to your own site. Your own words:
      > > >
      > > > "This is a list for realizers and mature
      > > > humans who aspire to such realization...
      > > >
      > > > and it's for sharing the humor, the love,
      > > > and the pure joy of finally realizing our
      > > > true, newborn perceptual condition."
      > > >
      > > > Who's missing the point? Or was this just
      > > > sales hyperbole to attract fawning disciples?
      > > >
      > > ******** Nope, last thing I need. :-) Of course, you don't see the
      > > humor of that. Sorry, "Jeff". :-)
      > >
      > >
      > > > Your friend and fellow hawker of humor, love
      > > > and pure joy.
      > > >
      > > ******* Nope, you're still missing it "Jeff". Com'on now, get with
      > > the program, hup to, hup to. :-)
      > >
      > > Judi
      > >
      > >
      > > > Jeff
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "judirhodes
      > > > <judirhodes@z...>" <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
      > > > > You try to make sense of it by calling it anger. It's not anger
      > > at
      > > > > all, it's understanding. There is no anger in it whatsoever.
      > > > > Understanding is transcendent of both joy and anger. You're
      > > missing
      > > > > the point entirely.
      > > > >
      > > > > Judi
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Belyea
      > > > > <jeff@m...>" <jeff@m...> wrote:
      > > > > > Once there were two little boys
      > > > > > (for this story, let's make it
      > > > > > one little boy and one little girl).
      > > > > >
      > > > > > The boy was always happy, always
      > > > > > quick with a hug, a smile, a laugh.
      > > > > > It was as if his goal in life was
      > > > > > to bring sunshine and love and light
      > > > > > and laughter to everyone he met.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > The girl was angry, mad all times, she
      > > > > > sputtered and snarled about everything
      > > > > > from her breakfast being cold to all
      > > > > > the dishonest and stupid people in
      > > > > > the world. She refused to accept love,
      > > > > > refused to see anything but "bullshit"
      > > > > > in the world.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > So, an experiment was conducted
      > > > > > to see if they could discourage
      > > > > > the boy and encourage the girl,
      > > > > > and change their uncompromising
      > > > > > attitudes.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > The girl was put in a room with
      > > > > > all the best toys available, all
      > > > > > the sweets and goodies she wanted,
      > > > > > and an attendant to get her anything
      > > > > > she wanted.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > The boy was put in a room
      > > > > > filled with horseshit and
      > > > > > a shovel.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > At the end of the day, the
      > > > > > experimenters expected to find
      > > > > > the girl happily content and
      > > > > > the boy angry and frustrated.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > When they went to the girls
      > > > > > room, all the toys were broken,
      > > > > > the food was smeared on the walls
      > > > > > and squished on the floor, and
      > > > > > the girl was kicking the attendant
      > > > > > and screaming that it was all
      > > > > > bullshit. The experimenters
      > > > > > were stunned.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > When they went to the boys
      > > > > > room, he was covered with
      > > > > > the horseshit, shoveling away,
      > > > > > whistling happily. The
      > > > > > experimenters were stunned,
      > > > > > once more. They asked the boy
      > > > > > how he could be happy in all
      > > > > > this mess. His reply...
      > > > > >
      > > > > > "Hey, with all this horseshit,
      > > > > > there has to be a pony in here
      > > > > > somewhere."
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Jeff
      > > > > > www.mindgoal.com
    • judirhodes <judirhodes@zianet.com>
      ... ******* Nope, no feet! Judi ... the ... with ... anger ... whatsoever. ... Belyea
      Message 2 of 11 , Jan 2, 2003
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        --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Belyea
        <jeff@m...>" <jeff@m...> wrote:
        > Judi -
        >
        > Oh, I think we picked out
        > what applies, appropriately.
        >
        > Are your shoes too tight?
        >
        ******* Nope, no feet!

        Judi


        > Jeff


        >
        > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "judirhodes
        > <judirhodes@z...>" <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
        > > Here "Jeff", perhaps you missed this part from the ranch list
        > > description:
        > >
        > > and those merely seeking attention by gabbing about how blissful,
        > > happy, loving, smart, or even how dumb they think they are simply
        > > need not apply here.
        > >
        > > eh?
        > >
        > > Judi
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "judirhodes
        > > <judirhodes@z...>" <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
        > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Belyea
        > > > <jeff@m...>" <jeff@m...> wrote:
        > > > >
        > > > > Judi -
        > > > >
        > > > > Here's are excerpts from the intro
        > > > > to your own site. Your own words:
        > > > >
        > > > > "This is a list for realizers and mature
        > > > > humans who aspire to such realization...
        > > > >
        > > > > and it's for sharing the humor, the love,
        > > > > and the pure joy of finally realizing our
        > > > > true, newborn perceptual condition."
        > > > >
        > > > > Who's missing the point? Or was this just
        > > > > sales hyperbole to attract fawning disciples?
        > > > >
        > > > ******** Nope, last thing I need. :-) Of course, you don't see
        the
        > > > humor of that. Sorry, "Jeff". :-)
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > > Your friend and fellow hawker of humor, love
        > > > > and pure joy.
        > > > >
        > > > ******* Nope, you're still missing it "Jeff". Com'on now, get
        with
        > > > the program, hup to, hup to. :-)
        > > >
        > > > Judi
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > > Jeff
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "judirhodes
        > > > > <judirhodes@z...>" <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
        > > > > > You try to make sense of it by calling it anger. It's not
        anger
        > > > at
        > > > > > all, it's understanding. There is no anger in it
        whatsoever.
        > > > > > Understanding is transcendent of both joy and anger. You're
        > > > missing
        > > > > > the point entirely.
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Judi
        > > > > >
        > > > > >
        > > > > >
        > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff
        Belyea
        > > > > > <jeff@m...>" <jeff@m...> wrote:
        > > > > > > Once there were two little boys
        > > > > > > (for this story, let's make it
        > > > > > > one little boy and one little girl).
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > The boy was always happy, always
        > > > > > > quick with a hug, a smile, a laugh.
        > > > > > > It was as if his goal in life was
        > > > > > > to bring sunshine and love and light
        > > > > > > and laughter to everyone he met.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > The girl was angry, mad all times, she
        > > > > > > sputtered and snarled about everything
        > > > > > > from her breakfast being cold to all
        > > > > > > the dishonest and stupid people in
        > > > > > > the world. She refused to accept love,
        > > > > > > refused to see anything but "bullshit"
        > > > > > > in the world.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > So, an experiment was conducted
        > > > > > > to see if they could discourage
        > > > > > > the boy and encourage the girl,
        > > > > > > and change their uncompromising
        > > > > > > attitudes.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > The girl was put in a room with
        > > > > > > all the best toys available, all
        > > > > > > the sweets and goodies she wanted,
        > > > > > > and an attendant to get her anything
        > > > > > > she wanted.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > The boy was put in a room
        > > > > > > filled with horseshit and
        > > > > > > a shovel.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > At the end of the day, the
        > > > > > > experimenters expected to find
        > > > > > > the girl happily content and
        > > > > > > the boy angry and frustrated.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > When they went to the girls
        > > > > > > room, all the toys were broken,
        > > > > > > the food was smeared on the walls
        > > > > > > and squished on the floor, and
        > > > > > > the girl was kicking the attendant
        > > > > > > and screaming that it was all
        > > > > > > bullshit. The experimenters
        > > > > > > were stunned.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > When they went to the boys
        > > > > > > room, he was covered with
        > > > > > > the horseshit, shoveling away,
        > > > > > > whistling happily. The
        > > > > > > experimenters were stunned,
        > > > > > > once more. They asked the boy
        > > > > > > how he could be happy in all
        > > > > > > this mess. His reply...
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > "Hey, with all this horseshit,
        > > > > > > there has to be a pony in here
        > > > > > > somewhere."
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Jeff
        > > > > > > www.mindgoal.com
      • Jeff Belyea <jeff@mindgoal.com>
        How about your hat? Dr. Jeff
        Message 3 of 11 , Jan 2, 2003
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          How about your hat?

          Dr. Jeff
        • medit8ionsociety
          ... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          Message 4 of 11 , Jan 3, 2003
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            <judirhodes@z...>" <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
            > Understanding is transcendent of both joy and anger.

            !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          • Jeff Belyea <jeff@mindgoal.com>
            ... That you might have a fullness of joy. PJ
            Message 5 of 11 , Jan 3, 2003
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              --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety <
              no_reply@y...> wrote:
              > <judirhodes@z...>" <judirhodes@z...> wrote:
              > > Understanding is transcendent of both joy and anger.
              >
              > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


              "That you might have a fullness of joy."

              PJ
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