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Re: [Meditation Society of America] Meditation and Health

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  • jogeshwarmahanta
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      meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
      <jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
      >
      > Friends! Thanks for the interest. Let me repeat the notional
      formula
      > and the mantra.Let it pervade all states,sleep,awakened and dream.
      >
      > The notional formula:
      > >
      > > Health power/longevity =f(RxHT/UHT)
      > >
      > > Where
      > > f=function f
      > > R=resilience
      > > HT=healthy thoughts
      > > UHT=unhealthy thoughts.
      > >
      > > Mantra-LET US ATTAIN PERFECTION AND PLEASURES IN THE CONSTANT
      FLOW
      > > OF CLEAR,VIVID AND CORRECT FEELINGS AND IDEAS AND NOT ANY WRONG
      > > FEELING AND IDEA INSTANTLY, PERFECTLY,PERMANENTLY AND
      > SPONTANEOUSLY.
      > > regards
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Aideen
      McKenna"
      > <aideenmck@> wrote:
      > >
      > > You've brought about real healing in your body. It's wonderful
      to
      > read your
      > > posts.
      > >
      > > I have a very soft spot for Lawrence LeShan, whose book &
      > tape "How to
      > > Meditate" saved my sanity years ago.
      > >
      > > If you google "psychoneuroimmunology cancer", you may find the
      > sort of thing
      > > you were searching for. (I haven't time right now to check that
      > out
      > > thoroughly).
      > >
      > > I believe Jon Kabat-Zinn is doing work with cancer patients
      using
      > meditation
      > > as a technique.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > _____
      > >
      > > From: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
      > > [mailto:meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
      > > westwindwood2003
      > > Sent: February 3, 2008 3:03 PM
      > > To: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
      > > Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Meditation and Health
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In HYPERLINK
      > > "mailto:meditationsocietyofamerica%
      > 40yahoogroups.com"meditationsocietyof-ame
      > > rica@, "jogeshwarmahanta"
      > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Strange! No interest in either preventive or therapeutic
      aspect
      > of
      > > > meditation or guided imagery.
      > >
      > > For using meditation for dealing with immune system problems
      such
      > as
      > > cancer and arthritis, I thought of the book, You Can Fight For
      > Your
      > > Life: Emotional Factors in the Treatment of Cancer by Lawrence
      > LeShan
      > > (Paperback - Jan 25, 1980), which is still in print. LeShan
      > > counseled terminal cancer patients in a medical setting,
      evolving
      > a
      > > technique where about 50% of his clients survived. The
      difference
      > in
      > > his approach was to ask, "what is going right" rather than "what
      > is
      > > wrong" in a clients life. It is not much to go on for other
      > > psychologists, who might want to duplicate his success and it
      > seems
      > > not much is being done now days because when I Google the three
      > > words, cancer remission psychology, I find nothing significant.
      > > LeShan has also written books on beginning meditation and so I
      > wonder
      > > if this also influenced his counseling technique. Perhaps
      > meditation
      > > also gave him an orientation that helped his clients.
      > >
      > > If a psychologist asks what is wrong, the stressful and negative
      > > aspects of the cancer patient's life are brought into the
      > > consciousness and the patient thinks "what hope is there". If
      the
      > > question is what is right, then hope for the future is at least
      a
      > > consideration and avenues can be explored. This is similar to a
      > > procedure in meditation where a person can use a good emotion to
      > > cancel another negative one that keeps coming up in meditation.
      > You
      > > can counter a negative emotion by substituting a positive one.
      > >
      > > The psychologist has to be open to what the client says and be
      > fully
      > > engaged to allow a complete exploration. I think in some way,
      > LeShan
      > > would allow the same kinds of feelings that would come up in
      > > meditation to be expressed by the client in counseling. For
      > examples
      > > of type of feelings, see pages 26 and 27 in
      > > HYPERLINK
      >
      > "http://www.urbandharma.org/pdf/mindfulness_in_plain_english.pdf"ht
      > tp://www.
      > > urbandha-rma.org/pdf/-mindfulness_-in_plain_-english.pdf
      > > Exploration of feelings can then evolve into a way for the
      client
      > to
      > > rationalize or otherwise find a way to reduce the stress in
      their
      > > life to allow their immune system to strengthen and eliminate
      the
      > > cancer. Another book, although not quite explicit as LeShan's,
      is
      > > Kitchen Table Wisdom: Stories That Heal by Rachel Naomi Remen.
      > >
      > > Soon after I discovered meditation in my early thirties, I dealt
      > with
      > > arthritis. I had fallen off a ladder onto my shoulder while
      > working
      > > for my uncle in his orchard, and I had an arthritic back, and a
      > > disintegrating disk. They were talking about removing the disk.
      I
      > > was in some pain and needed a special bed. I though that if
      > > meditation could speed healing, then maybe I would work on my
      > back.
      > > Well I tried to do imaging and found a feeling of a block. I
      then
      > > tried looking at my feelings by taking the thought of what I
      > wanted
      > > to look at into meditation and found a reason for the bad back.
      > > Seems I wanted people to feel sorry for me. Since no one was
      doing
      > > that, I figured I had better give this feeling up since it was
      not
      > > doing anything for me. After that, healing moved along. In two
      > > months, I had no more pain, and to this day I have never had any
      > back
      > > trouble, except for sore muscles when I work too hard, but the
      > next
      > > day everything is back to normal.
      > >
      > > About ten years after I started meditating, I found I had a
      small
      > pea
      > > size lump under my skin, but the skin itself looked normal. The
      > lump
      > > had roots extending out from the lump with a half-inch radius.
      Now
      > I
      > > do not know what that really was, but I did meditation, looked
      at
      > > emotional issues, found a reason, rationalized a solution, and
      the
      > > roots got rounded on the ends and everything shrunk to nothing
      in
      > > about five days. I though this may have been some kind of
      cancer,
      > > but we will never know since no doctors were involved.
      > >
      > > Move forward to March 2005 and I have been diagnosed with cancer
      > of
      > > the colon. I found some emotional issues, but I could not work
      it
      > > out intellectually. Life was just too much for me, too
      stressful,
      > > but I felt I should be more positive about life so I meditated
      > some
      > > more and was told that my time was not up. Confound it. I was
      > going
      > > to have to work on life, not give up. I could palpate the cancer
      > in
      > > my abdomen, low on the left side, but in ten days it went to
      about
      > > half size and got softer. At that point I was scheduled for
      > surgery
      > > so I went ahead with it because it would have driven my wife
      nuts
      > for
      > > me not to. The pathology came back, nothing in the lymph nodes
      and
      > > the oncologist said it was a `punky' cancer, non-aggressive.
      > >
      > >
      > >
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