- Thank you Bob for your insights. You really made me laugh when you said that people maditate in front of the computers... That means that i really meditate all day long.. my brother can barely meditate once a day for a few minutes in front of the computer :)
Well, about the FDG's, i red just a few works of them, as Nisargadatta, Osho, Krishnamurti, Papaji, and come to know some of the living famous guys as Eli and Gangaji Jaxon, Bedri Cetin, Aziz Kristof, Sarlo...
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Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The OK Corral
Actually, asking questions in the way that you do is a form of
meditation (Jnana Yoga). It is analagous to the method where you ask
yourself "Who am I"? The best way to learn about meditation is by
meditating. In the 21st Century, millions of people now meditate in
front of their computer screens instead of in front of an alter. When
you start getting responses from such enlightened people as Ganga,
Jeff, Ramon, Judi, Michael, Tony and others, it can be even more
illuminating an experience than worshiping and meditating about the
FDG's (Famous Dead Guys - I think that's the right term, as coined by
Sri Bruceji). Your interactions have opened many doors of wisdom and
are much appreciated. Thanks!
Peace and blessings,
--- In email@example.com, "Athanor"
> Well Jeff,
> i think you are right about the message below... i red it when i
signed up, but i forgot it.. the purpose of this group.. i came in
here and start asking everyone questions instead of sharing meditation
methods (as i don't meditate...as i don't know what is that or if i
> So, sorry for disturbing!
> Wish you all the best,
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Belyea <jeff@m...>
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 11:17 PM
> Subject: [Meditation Society of America] The OK Corral
> As I read it...
> "The Meditation Society of America's
> goal is to share meditation methods
> from all traditions. This group is
> an opportunity to ask and answer
> questions about meditation and
> discuss experiences. If you gain
> greater Self Knowledge, inner peace
> and self control, it will have
> achieved its aim."
> Just reviewing to remind myself
> where I am in the maze of Yahoo!
> Groups. And trying to make it safely
> out of Dodge City and back to the
> sanctity of my meditation pillow.
> Ramon's post about choosing
> the YES or NO route was one
> of the most enjoyable and
> lucid today. I chose the
> ecstatic route as well, Ramon.
> Also after a healthy dose of
> dark nights of the soul.
> There's life beyond the suffering,
> whether you choose to jump right
> into it and get burned to a crisp,
> finally annihilating the "I"dentity,
> or totally surrendering to life after
> years of struggle and finding release
> in the grace of a mind-blowing new
> understanding that presents itself
> to you "out of the blue", or more
> poetically and scripturally,"beyond
> what you could think or imagine".
> A shoot out the "I'm OK, you're not"
> corral is not the only path open to
> those who have come the end of their
> rope. Gentle people who remember
> gentle people who offered gentle
> guidance, especially in the form of
> meditation techniques, are the most
> likely to turn to help others - out
> of the goodness they so gratefully
> discovered in their own hearts
> and now recognize in all hearts.
> Sweetness and light or sulfur and
> molasses. You choose.
> Sweet dreams,
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- --- In email@example.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
>Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahantaji,
> Is bob transforming?
Every second every atom changes as does
every cell and organ that constitutes the
entity that is labeled Bob. Similarly the
thoughts and emotions always are in
a transforming state as long as the
physical carrier is in place. But there is a
continuity that is always constant and
that is the Witness to these changes.
And that is the "Real Bob".
Peace and blessings,
- Very well said Bob dear. But what I hinted at is "If change is
inevitable then why not towards better and better and better......"
Eros and thanatos are constantly acting against each other and by
transformation I meant the "continuity" of extinguishing thanatos
and reinforcing eros and not surrendering to thanatos.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, medit8ionsociety
> --- In
> <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
> > Is bob transforming?
> > regards
> Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahantaji,
> Every second every atom changes as does
> every cell and organ that constitutes the
> entity that is labeled Bob. Similarly the
> thoughts and emotions always are in
> a transforming state as long as the
> physical carrier is in place. But there is a
> continuity that is always constant and
> that is the Witness to these changes.
> And that is the "Real Bob".
> Peace and blessings,