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Re: What is Your Meditation Like

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  • jogeshwarmahanta
    Thanks. May be as your experience shows you do not need. However, I will post it. regards ... three ... colorful, ... it ... perhaps, ... WHAT ...
    Message 1 of 10 , Mar 2 12:14 AM
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      Thanks. May be as your experience shows you do not need. However, I
      will post it.
      regards

      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "J"
      <thebluze@...> wrote:
      >
      >
      > so you must tell us what these exercises are !
      >
      > "simulated dreams/translogical exercises"
      >
      >
      > sounds very interesting ! please do go on !
      >
      > I should add, I had a profound experience in meditation today.
      >
      > I decided to do some mid morning and wound up awakening two to
      three
      > hours later. I fell into some trance dream, very intense,
      colorful,
      > joyful. when I came out of it I was filled with pleasure and joy,
      it
      > did not feel like I had been asleep, like a further journey
      perhaps,
      > but I was most renewed and rested. I have no conscious memory of
      WHAT
      > happened, just the feeling of peace and joy,
      > it was so profound, and with me the whole day.
      >
      > namaste
      > J
      >
      >
      >
      > --- In
      meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
      > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Just I came out from the class at 11.20am imparting 2 practical
      > > exercises on simulated dreams/translogical exercises with a view
      to
      > > (1)stimulate brain cells to keep them healthy(2)prevent bad
      dreams
      > > and so on.Participants of every hue enjoy the experience.
      > > regards
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
      medit8ionsociety
      > > <no_reply@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > --- In
      > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "westwindwood2003"
      > > > <westwindwood2003@> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Here is mine:
      > > > >
      > > > > I was thinking about how natural it is to meditate. In a
      > > beautiful
      > > > > rural setting, my eyes gaze upon the wonderful surroundings
      and
      > > it is
      > > > > just myself taking it in and not analyzing it. Some gardens
      are
      > > > > specifically laid out for meditation, a garden at a Zen
      temple
      > > for
      > > > > instance. The intellectual mind just stops and I am left
      with
      > > my
      > > > > feelings coming to the fore of my consciousness. At another
      > > time I
      > > > > will be doing a simple task like washing dishes and again my
      > > feelings
      > > > > and emotional propensities come into view. Before I became
      wise
      > > to
      > > > > the ways of meditation, I would shut off these feelings
      flowing
      > > into
      > > > > my awareness because invariably it would seem that the
      subject
      > > matter
      > > > > would have a turmoil to it that would be uncomfortable,
      > > > > disconcerting, needing a way out of what came to the
      forefront.
      > > > >
      > > > > I prefer these natural ways of meditating because with a
      mantra,
      > > > > breath watching, a candle flame, a rosary, the meditative
      state
      > > is
      > > > > occupied much of the time with the method of getting into
      > > meditation,
      > > > > and there is less room for the unconscious desires that are
      > > mucking
      > > > > up my life to come forth for resolution. There are other
      > > altered
      > > > > states for comparison. In a state of sexual passion, the
      > > > > intellectual mind shuts down and a lot of feelings come
      forth
      > > and at
      > > > > a peak even feelings seem to shut down, but what happens is
      much
      > > more
      > > > > intense that meditation, and maybe a baby is created into a
      > > loving
      > > > > home. There are drugs that bring forth visions, such as
      LSD,
      > > > > opiates, or alcohol addiction hallucinations (well, I never
      > > > > experienced that), but there is no single subject that flows
      > > forth
      > > > > into awareness and evolves towards recognition with drug-
      induced
      > > > > visions. Sleep brings dreams, and this is much more intense
      than
      > > > > meditation, and if the subject matter of a dream is
      deliberately
      > > > > remembered while meditating, the feeling brought forth is
      much
      > > more
      > > > > intense that what is normally experienced in meditation.
      > > > >
      > > > > It seems for me that meditation only brings up as much as
      can be
      > > > > dealt with and after meditating for about 45 minutes the
      issue
      > > or
      > > > > subject that came up in meditation resolves into a single
      clear
      > > > > awareness of the problem. Now enlightenment when it first
      is
      > > > > revealed to a person is much more intense than any above
      > > mentioned
      > > > > altered states and from enlightenment flows a wisdom not of
      ones
      > > own
      > > > > nature about what to do with the issue that came to clarity
      > > while
      > > > > meditating for 45 minutes. If a person follows what that
      wisdom
      > > > > tells them to do, the person eventually evolves towards what
      > > > > enlightenment wisdom is and after lifetimes merges into it.
      > > > >
      > > > Yo Westwind,
      > > > I resonate with much of what you are sharing
      > > > and recognize some things that we differ about,
      > > > such as the statements about dreams being "much
      > > > more intense than meditation". But I think we
      > > > may just have different things in mind when we
      > > > use the terms we do that are meant to describe
      > > > various states of consciousness. For instance,
      > > > to answer 'What Meditation Is Like For Me', I feel
      > > > that before meditation became an ongoing part of
      > > > my life, I was in a dream-like state even when I
      > > > was "awake". And nothing in that level of consciousness
      > > > was really clear or "Real", much like a fetus cannot
      > > > be said to be appreciating the full experience of
      > > > life as a human. And with meditation, just as the new-born
      > > > child can see, hear, taste, smell, and feel in
      > > > a way that never was known before, the adult in
      > > > us can relate to Reality in ways never before possible.
      > > > In any event, I enjoy what you share and it points
      > > > to beneficial concepts that are well worth
      > > > meditating upon.
      > > > Peace and blessings,
      > > > Bob
      > > >
      > >
      >
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