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  • sean tremblay
    It s been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife s required reading for her
    Message 1 of 18 , Dec 8, 2007
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      It's been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife's required reading for her yoga training.  I would have to agree with Gwyn that it seems at least on surface to be a work more concerned with behavior than spirituality or meditation but I didn't get down to the gnats ass of it.  When I first read it I think I was looking at it from a historical or anthropological view a curiosity such as reading the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Icelandic chronicles and I considered it interesting from that point.  As an American and as a bit of an Anarchist in spirit I found the concepts of total abandonment of self to one duty or station in life to be a hard pill to swallow especial;y since I am a strong believer in the individuals choice for "Good" works especially when it come to making the choice for or against WAR, Violence, Killing ect...Or how we define the way in which we operate in this world IE what our calling is and how we choose to fulfill it. So when Krishna and Arjuna are poised and ready at the battle field and Arjuna expresses his doubt I can't help but think of Pakistan and India poised on the border of Kashmir both parties brandishing the Nuke option One side believing in Karmic predestination The other  in Gods righteous fury and quite frankly that scares the Bjesus outta me.  I might be reading it wrong but as a piece of literature I still enjoyed as a portal into the mind of an ancient
       culture

      medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
      --- In meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "Gwyn Plaine"
      <gplaine@... > wrote:
      >
      > So, the Gita?
      >
      Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
      (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
      My favorite translation and commentary
      will be found in this version:
      The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
      Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
      Many other "Best" books can be found on our
      Suggested Reading list:
      http://www.meditati onsociety. com/reading. html
      Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
      Essential Writings on Nonduality
      ONE
      Edited by Jerry Katz
      and I would include one of the truly classic
      treasures to be:
      I AM THAT,
      Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

      But...I really think that there is no book
      that can do as much for your understanding of
      meditation and help your evolution in
      consciousness as actually meditating.
      Peace and blessings,
      Bob

      > On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
      wrote:
      >
      > > One of the most common emails the
      > > Meditation Society of America gets
      > > asks for advice on which books are
      > > the best dealing with meditation.
      > > We had several this week and also
      > > received an email from the Divya
      > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
      > > one answer to this question. We'll
      > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
      > >
      > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
      > > reflace about how God created this
      > > universe everything else seems so superfluous. "
      > > Albert Einstein
      > >
      > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
      > > dedicate body, mind and soul
      > > to pure duty and not to become mental
      > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
      > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
      > > Mahatma Gandhiji
      > >
      > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
      > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
      > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
      > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
      > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
      > > India but to all of humanity."
      > > Aldous Huxley
      > >
      > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
      > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
      > > with a new message for every age and a
      > > new meaning for every civilization. "
      > > Sri Aurobindo
      > >
      > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
      > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
      > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
      > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
      > > Henry David Thoreau
      > >
      > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
      > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
      > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
      > > Herman Hesse
      > >
      > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
      > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
      > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
      > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
      > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
      > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
      > >
      > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
      > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
      > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
      > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
      > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
      > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
      > > questions which exercise us."
      > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
      > >
      > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
      > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
      > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
      > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
      > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
      > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
      > >
      > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
      > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
      > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
      > > Rudolph Steiner
      > >
      > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
      > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
      > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
      > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
      > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
      > > think that they are advised to engage in
      > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
      > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
      > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
      > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
      > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
      > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
      > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
      > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
      > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
      > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
      > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
      > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
      > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
      > >
      > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
      > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
      > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita. "
      > > Swami Vivekananda
      > >
      > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
      > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
      > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
      > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
      > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
      > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
      > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
      > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
      > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
      > > Sri Ramanuja
      > >
      > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
      > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
      > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
      > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
      > >
      > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
      > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
      > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
      > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
      > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
      > > who meditate on the Gita will
      > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
      > > Mahatma Gandhiji
      > >
      > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
      > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
      > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
      > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
      > > Adi Sankara
      > >
      > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
      > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
      > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita. " -
      > > Swami Vivekananda
      > >
      > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
      > > His devotee Arjuna."
      > > Paramahansa Yogananda
      > >
      > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
      > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
      > > which is manifested by actions."
      > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >



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    • medit8ionsociety
      ... through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife s required reading for her yoga training. I would have to agree with Gwyn that it
      Message 2 of 18 , Dec 8, 2007
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        sean tremblay <bethjams9@...> wrote:
        >
        > It's been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing
        through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife's
        required reading for her yoga training. I would have to agree with
        Gwyn that it seems at least on surface to be a work more concerned
        with behavior than spirituality or meditation ...

        snip below

        The deal here is that many translations are very
        hard for Americans to "get". That's one main reason
        why I point to Swami Satchidananda's translation. His
        Americanized English is pretty clear. One aspect of this
        "war story" is that it can be seen to be pointing to the
        enemy that is within our mind...greed, hate, anger,
        jealousy, etc and that's what we really need to fight.
        Raja Yoga is the Yoga of Meditation and it has 8 steps.
        Here's the Wikipedia take on them.
        The eight limbs of Ashtanga (Raja) Yoga are:

        * Yama - Code of conduct - self-restraint
        * Niyama - religious observances - commitments
        to practice, such as study and devotion
        * Āsana - integration of mind and body
        through physical activity
        * Pranayama - regulation of breath leading
        to integration of mind and body
        * Pratyahara - abstraction of the senses,
        withdrawal of the senses of perception from their objects
        * Dharana - concentration, one-pointedness of mind
        * Dhyana - meditation (quiet activity that
        leads to samadhi)
        * Samadhi - the quiet state of blissful
        awareness, superconscious state

        As you can see, meditation has 6 steps before it can
        take place. Even just being able to concentrate will
        not happen without self-restraint, study, control of
        the mind and senses, etc. So if seen as a course in
        getting enough self control to meditate,the Gita is
        quite a guidebook.Everyone has something that is the
        main way that they become distracted when meditating.
        For some it can be their emotions, others their bodily
        reactivity, and many their mind chatter. That's the war
        that we need to wage. And seeing Krishna as the Divine
        identity within us and Arjuna as our "normal" mind/ego,
        the Gita and its directions on how life should be faced
        will well take us to where we must be for meditation to
        flow us into Samadhi.
        And in any event, it's a bit better than any Rambo movie
        if war stories are your thing.
        Peace and blessings,
        Bob


        but I didn't get down to the gnats ass of it. When I first read it I
        think I was looking at it from a historical or anthropological view a
        curiosity such as reading the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Icelandic
        chronicles and I considered it interesting from that point. As an
        American and as a bit of an Anarchist in spirit I found the concepts
        of total abandonment of self to one duty or station in life to be a
        hard pill to swallow especial;y since I am a strong believer in the
        individuals choice for "Good" works especially when it come to making
        the choice for or against WAR, Violence, Killing ect...Or how we
        define the way in which we operate in this world IE what our
        > calling is and how we choose to fulfill it. So when Krishna and
        Arjuna are poised and ready at the battle field and Arjuna expresses
        his doubt I can't help but think of Pakistan and India poised on the
        border of Kashmir both parties brandishing the Nuke option One side
        believing in Karmic predestination The other in Gods righteous fury
        and quite frankly that scares the Bjesus outta me. I might be reading
        it wrong but as a piece of literature I still enjoyed as a portal into
        the mind of an ancient
        > culture
        >
        > medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
        > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn
        Plaine"
        > <gplaine@> wrote:
        > >
        > > So, the Gita?
        > >
        > Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
        > (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
        > My favorite translation and commentary
        > will be found in this version:
        > The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
        > Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
        > Many other "Best" books can be found on our
        > Suggested Reading list:
        > http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html
        > Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
        > Essential Writings on Nonduality
        > ONE
        > Edited by Jerry Katz
        > and I would include one of the truly classic
        > treasures to be:
        > I AM THAT,
        > Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
        >
        > But...I really think that there is no book
        > that can do as much for your understanding of
        > meditation and help your evolution in
        > consciousness as actually meditating.
        > Peace and blessings,
        > Bob
        >
        > > On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
        > wrote:
        > >
        > > > One of the most common emails the
        > > > Meditation Society of America gets
        > > > asks for advice on which books are
        > > > the best dealing with meditation.
        > > > We had several this week and also
        > > > received an email from the Divya
        > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
        > > > one answer to this question. We'll
        > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
        > > >
        > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
        > > > reflace about how God created this
        > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
        > > > Albert Einstein
        > > >
        > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
        > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
        > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
        > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
        > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
        > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
        > > >
        > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
        > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
        > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
        > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
        > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
        > > > India but to all of humanity."
        > > > Aldous Huxley
        > > >
        > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
        > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
        > > > with a new message for every age and a
        > > > new meaning for every civilization."
        > > > Sri Aurobindo
        > > >
        > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
        > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
        > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
        > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
        > > > Henry David Thoreau
        > > >
        > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
        > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
        > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
        > > > Herman Hesse
        > > >
        > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
        > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
        > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
        > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
        > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
        > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
        > > >
        > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
        > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
        > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
        > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
        > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
        > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
        > > > questions which exercise us."
        > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
        > > >
        > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
        > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
        > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
        > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
        > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
        > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
        > > >
        > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
        > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
        > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
        > > > Rudolph Steiner
        > > >
        > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
        > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
        > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
        > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
        > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
        > > > think that they are advised to engage in
        > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
        > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
        > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
        > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
        > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
        > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
        > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
        > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
        > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
        > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
        > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
        > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
        > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
        > > >
        > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
        > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
        > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
        > > > Swami Vivekananda
        > > >
        > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
        > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
        > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
        > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
        > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
        > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
        > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
        > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
        > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
        > > > Sri Ramanuja
        > > >
        > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
        > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
        > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
        > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
        > > >
        > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
        > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
        > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
        > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
        > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
        > > > who meditate on the Gita will
        > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
        > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
        > > >
        > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
        > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
        > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
        > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
        > > > Adi Sankara
        > > >
        > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
        > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
        > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
        > > > Swami Vivekananda
        > > >
        > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
        > > > His devotee Arjuna."
        > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
        > > >
        > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
        > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
        > > > which is manifested by actions."
        > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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      • sean tremblay
        Bob, Thanks for that. I think Getting it is the biggest hurdle when we work with resources outside of our normal cultural context and I do believe I was not
        Message 3 of 18 , Dec 8, 2007
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          Bob,
          Thanks for that. I think "Getting it" is the biggest hurdle when we work with resources outside of our normal cultural context and I do believe I was not getting it for it's deeper meaning but I admit I didn't sit on it much either and in the context you have outlined I should give it a second look, it's funny that it was brought up because it keeps appearing on my coffee table when I have nothing to do.

          medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
          sean tremblay <bethjams9@. ..> wrote:
          >
          > It's been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing
          through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife's
          required reading for her yoga training. I would have to agree with
          Gwyn that it seems at least on surface to be a work more concerned
          with behavior than spirituality or meditation ...

          snip below

          The deal here is that many translations are very
          hard for Americans to "get". That's one main reason
          why I point to Swami Satchidananda' s translation. His
          Americanized English is pretty clear. One aspect of this
          "war story" is that it can be seen to be pointing to the
          enemy that is within our mind...greed, hate, anger,
          jealousy, etc and that's what we really need to fight.
          Raja Yoga is the Yoga of Meditation and it has 8 steps.
          Here's the Wikipedia take on them.
          The eight limbs of Ashtanga (Raja) Yoga are:

          * Yama - Code of conduct - self-restraint
          * Niyama - religious observances - commitments
          to practice, such as study and devotion
          * &#256;sana - integration of mind and body
          through physical activity
          * Pranayama - regulation of breath leading
          to integration of mind and body
          * Pratyahara - abstraction of the senses,
          withdrawal of the senses of perception from their objects
          * Dharana - concentration, one-pointedness of mind
          * Dhyana - meditation (quiet activity that
          leads to samadhi)
          * Samadhi - the quiet state of blissful
          awareness, superconscious state

          As you can see, meditation has 6 steps before it can
          take place. Even just being able to concentrate will
          not happen without self-restraint, study, control of
          the mind and senses, etc. So if seen as a course in
          getting enough self control to meditate,the Gita is
          quite a guidebook.Everyone has something that is the
          main way that they become distracted when meditating.
          For some it can be their emotions, others their bodily
          reactivity, and many their mind chatter. That's the war
          that we need to wage. And seeing Krishna as the Divine
          identity within us and Arjuna as our "normal" mind/ego,
          the Gita and its directions on how life should be faced
          will well take us to where we must be for meditation to
          flow us into Samadhi.
          And in any event, it's a bit better than any Rambo movie
          if war stories are your thing.
          Peace and blessings,
          Bob

          but I didn't get down to the gnats ass of it. When I first read it I
          think I was looking at it from a historical or anthropological view a
          curiosity such as reading the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Icelandic
          chronicles and I considered it interesting from that point. As an
          American and as a bit of an Anarchist in spirit I found the concepts
          of total abandonment of self to one duty or station in life to be a
          hard pill to swallow especial;y since I am a strong believer in the
          individuals choice for "Good" works especially when it come to making
          the choice for or against WAR, Violence, Killing ect...Or how we
          define the way in which we operate in this world IE what our
          > calling is and how we choose to fulfill it. So when Krishna and
          Arjuna are poised and ready at the battle field and Arjuna expresses
          his doubt I can't help but think of Pakistan and India poised on the
          border of Kashmir both parties brandishing the Nuke option One side
          believing in Karmic predestination The other in Gods righteous fury
          and quite frankly that scares the Bjesus outta me. I might be reading
          it wrong but as a piece of literature I still enjoyed as a portal into
          the mind of an ancient
          > culture
          >
          > medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
          > --- In meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "Gwyn
          Plaine"
          > <gplaine@> wrote:
          > >
          > > So, the Gita?
          > >
          > Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
          > (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
          > My favorite translation and commentary
          > will be found in this version:
          > The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
          > Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
          > Many other "Best" books can be found on our
          > Suggested Reading list:
          > http://www.meditati onsociety. com/reading. html
          > Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
          > Essential Writings on Nonduality
          > ONE
          > Edited by Jerry Katz
          > and I would include one of the truly classic
          > treasures to be:
          > I AM THAT,
          > Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
          >
          > But...I really think that there is no book
          > that can do as much for your understanding of
          > meditation and help your evolution in
          > consciousness as actually meditating.
          > Peace and blessings,
          > Bob
          >
          > > On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
          > wrote:
          > >
          > > > One of the most common emails the
          > > > Meditation Society of America gets
          > > > asks for advice on which books are
          > > > the best dealing with meditation.
          > > > We had several this week and also
          > > > received an email from the Divya
          > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
          > > > one answer to this question. We'll
          > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
          > > >
          > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
          > > > reflace about how God created this
          > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous. "
          > > > Albert Einstein
          > > >
          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
          > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
          > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
          > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
          > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
          > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
          > > >
          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
          > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
          > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
          > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
          > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
          > > > India but to all of humanity."
          > > > Aldous Huxley
          > > >
          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
          > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
          > > > with a new message for every age and a
          > > > new meaning for every civilization. "
          > > > Sri Aurobindo
          > > >
          > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
          > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
          > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
          > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
          > > > Henry David Thoreau
          > > >
          > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
          > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
          > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
          > > > Herman Hesse
          > > >
          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
          > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
          > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
          > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
          > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
          > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
          > > >
          > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
          > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
          > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
          > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
          > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
          > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
          > > > questions which exercise us."
          > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
          > > >
          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
          > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
          > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
          > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
          > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
          > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
          > > >
          > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
          > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
          > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
          > > > Rudolph Steiner
          > > >
          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
          > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
          > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
          > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
          > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
          > > > think that they are advised to engage in
          > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
          > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
          > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
          > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
          > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
          > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
          > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
          > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
          > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
          > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
          > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
          > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
          > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
          > > >
          > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
          > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
          > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita. "
          > > > Swami Vivekananda
          > > >
          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
          > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
          > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
          > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
          > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
          > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
          > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
          > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
          > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
          > > > Sri Ramanuja
          > > >
          > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
          > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
          > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
          > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
          > > >
          > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
          > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
          > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
          > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
          > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
          > > > who meditate on the Gita will
          > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
          > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
          > > >
          > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
          > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
          > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
          > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
          > > > Adi Sankara
          > > >
          > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
          > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
          > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita. " -
          > > > Swami Vivekananda
          > > >
          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
          > > > His devotee Arjuna."
          > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
          > > >
          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
          > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
          > > > which is manifested by actions."
          > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
          > > >
          > > >
          > > >
          > >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
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        • Gwyn Plaine
          The issue for me is, if it requires that level of exegesis even to a Vedic, then I d say is while it may be a good and comprehensive allegory on the meditative
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            The issue for me is, if it requires that level of exegesis even to a Vedic, then I'd say is while it may be a good and comprehensive allegory on the meditative practice, (and I don't think anyone who's studied the field is disagreeing that) it's not 'the best' simply due to the level of opaqueness in the narrative. It is far from a 'how to' on meditation. Yogananda managed to run it to two pretty encyclopaedic slipcovered volumes.As to not getting it... like most religious texts there is the overt meaning, the allegorical meaning and the 'initiate' view. Having spent most of my adult life with my head in Middle Eastern, Southern Asiatic and Far Eastern religious thought, there is a lot that is critically dependent on cultural mores of the region, some that it genuinely a hidden in plain sight version, and a lot that is mental Rorschachery due to later reader's exegetical cultural lens...

            Please note, I'm not disagreeing with your point, far from it, but I am presenting a slight cautionary note to the effect there is possibly an inkblot psychology involved.

            On Dec 9, 2007 1:57 AM, sean tremblay < bethjams9@...> wrote:

            Bob,
            Thanks for that. I think "Getting it" is the biggest hurdle when we work with resources outside of our normal cultural context and I do believe I was not getting it for it's deeper meaning but I admit I didn't sit on it much either and in the context you have outlined I should give it a second look, it's funny that it was brought up because it keeps appearing on my coffee table when I have nothing to do.


            medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
            sean tremblay <bethjams9@...> wrote:
            >
            > It's been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing
            through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife's
            required reading for her yoga training. I would have to agree with
            Gwyn that it seems at least on surface to be a work more concerned
            with behavior than spirituality or meditation ...

            snip below

            The deal here is that many translations are very
            hard for Americans to "get". That's one main reason
            why I point to Swami Satchidananda's translation. His
            Americanized English is pretty clear. One aspect of this
            "war story" is that it can be seen to be pointing to the
            enemy that is within our mind...greed, hate, anger,
            jealousy, etc and that's what we really need to fight.
            Raja Yoga is the Yoga of Meditation and it has 8 steps.
            Here's the Wikipedia take on them.
            The eight limbs of Ashtanga (Raja) Yoga are:

            * Yama - Code of conduct - self-restraint
            * Niyama - religious observances - commitments
            to practice, such as study and devotion
            * &#256;sana - integration of mind and body
            through physical activity
            * Pranayama - regulation of breath leading
            to integration of mind and body
            * Pratyahara - abstraction of the senses,
            withdrawal of the senses of perception from their objects
            * Dharana - concentration, one-pointedness of mind
            * Dhyana - meditation (quiet activity that
            leads to samadhi)
            * Samadhi - the quiet state of blissful
            awareness, superconscious state

            As you can see, meditation has 6 steps before it can
            take place. Even just being able to concentrate will
            not happen without self-restraint, study, control of
            the mind and senses, etc. So if seen as a course in
            getting enough self control to meditate,the Gita is
            quite a guidebook.Everyone has something that is the
            main way that they become distracted when meditating.
            For some it can be their emotions, others their bodily
            reactivity, and many their mind chatter. That's the war
            that we need to wage. And seeing Krishna as the Divine
            identity within us and Arjuna as our "normal" mind/ego,
            the Gita and its directions on how life should be faced
            will well take us to where we must be for meditation to
            flow us into Samadhi.
            And in any event, it's a bit better than any Rambo movie
            if war stories are your thing.
            Peace and blessings,
            Bob

            but I didn't get down to the gnats ass of it. When I first read it I
            think I was looking at it from a historical or anthropological view a
            curiosity such as reading the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Icelandic
            chronicles and I considered it interesting from that point. As an
            American and as a bit of an Anarchist in spirit I found the concepts
            of total abandonment of self to one duty or station in life to be a
            hard pill to swallow especial;y since I am a strong believer in the
            individuals choice for "Good" works especially when it come to making
            the choice for or against WAR, Violence, Killing ect...Or how we
            define the way in which we operate in this world IE what our
            > calling is and how we choose to fulfill it. So when Krishna and
            Arjuna are poised and ready at the battle field and Arjuna expresses
            his doubt I can't help but think of Pakistan and India poised on the
            border of Kashmir both parties brandishing the Nuke option One side
            believing in Karmic predestination The other in Gods righteous fury
            and quite frankly that scares the Bjesus outta me. I might be reading
            it wrong but as a piece of literature I still enjoyed as a portal into
            the mind of an ancient
            > culture
            >
            > medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
            > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn
            Plaine"
            > <gplaine@> wrote:
            > >
            > > So, the Gita?
            > >
            > Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
            > (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
            > My favorite translation and commentary
            > will be found in this version:
            > The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
            > Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
            > Many other "Best" books can be found on our
            > Suggested Reading list:
            > http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html
            > Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
            > Essential Writings on Nonduality
            > ONE
            > Edited by Jerry Katz
            > and I would include one of the truly classic
            > treasures to be:
            > I AM THAT,
            > Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
            >
            > But...I really think that there is no book
            > that can do as much for your understanding of
            > meditation and help your evolution in
            > consciousness as actually meditating.
            > Peace and blessings,
            > Bob
            >
            > > On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety < no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
            > wrote:
            > >
            > > > One of the most common emails the
            > > > Meditation Society of America gets
            > > > asks for advice on which books are
            > > > the best dealing with meditation.
            > > > We had several this week and also
            > > > received an email from the Divya
            > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
            > > > one answer to this question. We'll
            > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
            > > >
            > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
            > > > reflace about how God created this
            > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
            > > > Albert Einstein
            > > >
            > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
            > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
            > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
            > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
            > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
            > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
            > > >
            > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
            > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
            > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
            > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
            > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
            > > > India but to all of humanity."
            > > > Aldous Huxley
            > > >
            > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
            > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
            > > > with a new message for every age and a
            > > > new meaning for every civilization."
            > > > Sri Aurobindo
            > > >
            > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
            > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
            > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
            > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
            > > > Henry David Thoreau
            > > >
            > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
            > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
            > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
            > > > Herman Hesse
            > > >
            > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
            > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
            > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
            > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
            > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
            > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
            > > >
            > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
            > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
            > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
            > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
            > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
            > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
            > > > questions which exercise us."
            > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
            > > >
            > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
            > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
            > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
            > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
            > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
            > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
            > > >
            > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
            > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
            > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
            > > > Rudolph Steiner
            > > >
            > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
            > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
            > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
            > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
            > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
            > > > think that they are advised to engage in
            > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
            > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
            > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
            > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
            > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
            > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
            > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
            > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
            > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
            > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
            > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
            > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
            > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
            > > >
            > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
            > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
            > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
            > > > Swami Vivekananda
            > > >
            > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
            > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
            > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
            > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
            > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
            > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
            > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
            > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
            > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
            > > > Sri Ramanuja
            > > >
            > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
            > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
            > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
            > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
            > > >
            > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
            > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
            > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
            > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
            > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
            > > > who meditate on the Gita will
            > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
            > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
            > > >
            > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
            > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
            > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
            > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
            > > > Adi Sankara
            > > >
            > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
            > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
            > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
            > > > Swami Vivekananda
            > > >
            > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
            > > > His devotee Arjuna."
            > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
            > > >
            > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
            > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
            > > > which is manifested by actions."
            > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
            > > >
            > > >
            > > >
            > >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
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          • jogeshwarmahanta
            Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice of Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali s Yoga Sutras? As I find objectives of the two texts are
            Message 5 of 18 , Dec 15, 2007
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              Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice of
              Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find objectives
              of the two texts are diametrically opposite.

              From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a better
              manual.

              Thanks for this thread.
              regards




              --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety
              <no_reply@...> wrote:
              >
              > One of the most common emails the
              > Meditation Society of America gets
              > asks for advice on which books are
              > the best dealing with meditation.
              > We had several this week and also
              > received an email from the Divya
              > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
              > one answer to this question. We'll
              > let these quotes speak for themselves:
              >
              > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
              > reflace about how God created this
              > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
              > Albert Einstein
              >
              > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
              > dedicate body, mind and soul
              > to pure duty and not to become mental
              > voluptuaries at the mercy of
              > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
              > Mahatma Gandhiji
              >
              > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
              > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
              > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
              > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
              > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
              > India but to all of humanity."
              > Aldous Huxley
              >
              > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
              > human race a living creation rather than a book,
              > with a new message for every age and a
              > new meaning for every civilization."
              > Sri Aurobindo
              >
              > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
              > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
              > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
              > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
              > Henry David Thoreau
              >
              > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
              > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
              > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
              > Herman Hesse
              >
              > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
              > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
              > a call of action to meet the obligations and
              > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
              > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
              > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
              >
              > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
              > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
              > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
              > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
              > old intelligence which in another age and climate
              > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
              > questions which exercise us."
              > Ralph Waldo Emerson
              >
              > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
              > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
              > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
              > montheistic deity and at the same time the
              > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
              > Ralph Waldo Emerson
              >
              > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
              > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
              > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
              > Rudolph Steiner
              >
              > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
              > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
              > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
              > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
              > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
              > think that they are advised to engage in
              > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
              > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
              > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
              > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
              > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
              > high priority. If we continue and patiently
              > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
              > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
              > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
              > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
              > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
              > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
              > Sri Swami Prabhupada
              >
              > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
              > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
              > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
              > Swami Vivekananda
              >
              > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
              > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
              > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
              > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
              > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
              > and negative, undesirable influences that are
              > opposed to spiritual development, yet
              > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
              > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
              > Sri Ramanuja
              >
              > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
              > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
              > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
              > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
              >
              > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
              > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
              > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
              > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
              > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
              > who meditate on the Gita will
              > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
              > Mahatma Gandhiji
              >
              > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
              > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
              > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
              > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
              > Adi Sankara
              >
              > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
              > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
              > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
              > Swami Vivekananda
              >
              > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
              > His devotee Arjuna."
              > Paramahansa Yogananda
              >
              > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
              > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
              > which is manifested by actions."
              > Dr. Albert Schweizer
              >
            • jogeshwarmahanta
              No further views? regards ... meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, jogeshwarmahanta ... medit8ionsociety
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                No further views?
                regards



                --- In
                meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                <jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
                >
                > Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice of
                > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find objectives
                > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                >
                > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a better
                > manual.
                >
                > Thanks for this thread.
                > regards
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                medit8ionsociety
                > <no_reply@> wrote:
                > >
                > > One of the most common emails the
                > > Meditation Society of America gets
                > > asks for advice on which books are
                > > the best dealing with meditation.
                > > We had several this week and also
                > > received an email from the Divya
                > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                > > one answer to this question. We'll
                > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                > >
                > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                > > reflace about how God created this
                > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                > > Albert Einstein
                > >
                > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                > >
                > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                > > India but to all of humanity."
                > > Aldous Huxley
                > >
                > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                > > with a new message for every age and a
                > > new meaning for every civilization."
                > > Sri Aurobindo
                > >
                > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                > > Henry David Thoreau
                > >
                > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                > > Herman Hesse
                > >
                > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                > >
                > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                > > questions which exercise us."
                > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                > >
                > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                > >
                > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                > > Rudolph Steiner
                > >
                > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                > > think that they are advised to engage in
                > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                > >
                > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                > > Swami Vivekananda
                > >
                > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                > > Sri Ramanuja
                > >
                > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                > >
                > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                > > who meditate on the Gita will
                > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                > >
                > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                > > Adi Sankara
                > >
                > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                > > Swami Vivekananda
                > >
                > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                > > His devotee Arjuna."
                > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                > >
                > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                > > which is manifested by actions."
                > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                > >
                >
              • medit8ionsociety
                ... Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta, I didn t realize that you were referring to the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you were, and that it was your unique
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                  --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                  <jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > No further views?
                  > regards
                  >
                  Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,
                  I didn't realize that you were referring to
                  the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you
                  were, and that it was your unique spelling
                  (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable
                  to reply. I don't see in any way that the
                  2 books as being "diametrically opposite.
                  Actually, I feel they compliment each other
                  perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best
                  prepare to medtate and live a pure life that
                  eliminates the distractions that hold one back
                  from experiencing the bounty of treasures that
                  meditation brings. And the Sutras are the
                  perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together
                  they comprise the totality of all one
                  needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold
                  the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is
                  within and is the birthright of all of humanity.
                  Peace and Blessings,
                  Bob
                  > --- In
                  > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                  > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice of
                  > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find objectives
                  > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                  > >
                  > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a better
                  > > manual.
                  > >
                  > > Thanks for this thread.
                  > > regards
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                  > medit8ionsociety
                  > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > One of the most common emails the
                  > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                  > > > asks for advice on which books are
                  > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                  > > > We had several this week and also
                  > > > received an email from the Divya
                  > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                  > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                  > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                  > > >
                  > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                  > > > reflace about how God created this
                  > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                  > > > Albert Einstein
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                  > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                  > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                  > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                  > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                  > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                  > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                  > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                  > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                  > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                  > > > India but to all of humanity."
                  > > > Aldous Huxley
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                  > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                  > > > with a new message for every age and a
                  > > > new meaning for every civilization."
                  > > > Sri Aurobindo
                  > > >
                  > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                  > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                  > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                  > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                  > > > Henry David Thoreau
                  > > >
                  > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                  > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                  > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                  > > > Herman Hesse
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                  > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                  > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                  > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                  > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                  > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                  > > >
                  > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                  > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                  > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                  > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                  > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                  > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                  > > > questions which exercise us."
                  > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                  > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                  > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                  > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                  > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                  > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                  > > >
                  > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                  > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                  > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                  > > > Rudolph Steiner
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                  > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                  > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                  > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                  > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                  > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                  > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                  > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                  > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                  > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                  > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                  > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                  > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                  > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                  > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                  > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                  > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                  > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                  > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                  > > >
                  > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                  > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                  > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                  > > > Swami Vivekananda
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                  > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                  > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                  > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                  > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                  > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                  > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                  > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                  > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                  > > > Sri Ramanuja
                  > > >
                  > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                  > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                  > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                  > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                  > > >
                  > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                  > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                  > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                  > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                  > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                  > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                  > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                  > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                  > > >
                  > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                  > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                  > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                  > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                  > > > Adi Sankara
                  > > >
                  > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                  > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                  > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                  > > > Swami Vivekananda
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                  > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                  > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                  > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                  > > > which is manifested by actions."
                  > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                  > > >
                  > >
                  >
                • jogeshwarmahanta
                  Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat Geeta. No. The definitions of Yoga: Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of
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                    Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat Geeta.

                    No.
                    The definitions of Yoga:

                    Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of mind/procliviries).

                    Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting success
                    and failure as the same)

                    Objectives-Moksha.

                    Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time and
                    space.

                    Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.

                    Approach:

                    Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.

                    Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.

                    regards






                    --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety
                    <no_reply@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > --- In
                    meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                    > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > No further views?
                    > > regards
                    > >
                    > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,
                    > I didn't realize that you were referring to
                    > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you
                    > were, and that it was your unique spelling
                    > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable
                    > to reply. I don't see in any way that the
                    > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.
                    > Actually, I feel they compliment each other
                    > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best
                    > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that
                    > eliminates the distractions that hold one back
                    > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that
                    > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the
                    > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together
                    > they comprise the totality of all one
                    > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold
                    > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is
                    > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.
                    > Peace and Blessings,
                    > Bob
                    > > --- In
                    > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                    > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice of
                    > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find
                    objectives
                    > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                    > > >
                    > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a
                    better
                    > > > manual.
                    > > >
                    > > > Thanks for this thread.
                    > > > regards
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                    > > medit8ionsociety
                    > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                    > > > >
                    > > > > One of the most common emails the
                    > > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                    > > > > asks for advice on which books are
                    > > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                    > > > > We had several this week and also
                    > > > > received an email from the Divya
                    > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                    > > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                    > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                    > > > > reflace about how God created this
                    > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                    > > > > Albert Einstein
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                    > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                    > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                    > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                    > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                    > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                    > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                    > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                    > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                    > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                    > > > > India but to all of humanity."
                    > > > > Aldous Huxley
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                    > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                    > > > > with a new message for every age and a
                    > > > > new meaning for every civilization."
                    > > > > Sri Aurobindo
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                    > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                    > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                    > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                    > > > > Henry David Thoreau
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                    > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                    > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                    > > > > Herman Hesse
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                    > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                    > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                    > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                    > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                    > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                    > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                    > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                    > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                    > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                    > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                    > > > > questions which exercise us."
                    > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                    > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                    > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                    > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                    > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                    > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                    > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                    > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                    > > > > Rudolph Steiner
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                    > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                    > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                    > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                    > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                    > > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                    > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                    > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                    > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                    > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                    > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                    > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                    > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                    > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                    > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                    > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                    > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                    > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                    > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                    > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                    > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                    > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                    > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                    > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                    > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                    > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                    > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                    > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                    > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                    > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                    > > > > Sri Ramanuja
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                    > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                    > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                    > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                    > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                    > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                    > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                    > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                    > > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                    > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                    > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                    > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                    > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                    > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                    > > > > Adi Sankara
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                    > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                    > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                    > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                    > > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                    > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                    > > > >
                    > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                    > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                    > > > > which is manifested by actions."
                    > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                    > > > >
                    > > >
                    > >
                    >
                  • jogeshwarmahanta
                    Oh! I forgot one very important aspect. In relation to God: Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God) Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam
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                      Oh! I forgot one very important aspect.

                      In relation to God:

                      Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)

                      Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon all
                      and surrender to Me)-Lord Krishna
                      regards



                      --- In
                      meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                      <jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat
                      Geeta.
                      >
                      > No.
                      > The definitions of Yoga:
                      >
                      > Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of
                      mind/procliviries).
                      >
                      > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting
                      success
                      > and failure as the same)
                      >
                      > Objectives-Moksha.
                      >
                      > Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time and
                      > space.
                      >
                      > Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.
                      >
                      > Approach:
                      >
                      > Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.
                      >
                      > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.
                      >
                      > regards
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                      medit8ionsociety
                      > <no_reply@> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > --- In
                      > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                      > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > No further views?
                      > > > regards
                      > > >
                      > > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,
                      > > I didn't realize that you were referring to
                      > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you
                      > > were, and that it was your unique spelling
                      > > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable
                      > > to reply. I don't see in any way that the
                      > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.
                      > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other
                      > > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best
                      > > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that
                      > > eliminates the distractions that hold one back
                      > > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that
                      > > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the
                      > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together
                      > > they comprise the totality of all one
                      > > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold
                      > > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is
                      > > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.
                      > > Peace and Blessings,
                      > > Bob
                      > > > --- In
                      > > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                      > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice
                      of
                      > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find
                      > objectives
                      > > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                      > > > >
                      > > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a
                      > better
                      > > > > manual.
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Thanks for this thread.
                      > > > > regards
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                      > > > medit8ionsociety
                      > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > One of the most common emails the
                      > > > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                      > > > > > asks for advice on which books are
                      > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                      > > > > > We had several this week and also
                      > > > > > received an email from the Divya
                      > > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                      > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                      > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                      > > > > > reflace about how God created this
                      > > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                      > > > > > Albert Einstein
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                      > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                      > > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                      > > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                      > > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                      > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                      > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                      > > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                      > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                      > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                      > > > > > India but to all of humanity."
                      > > > > > Aldous Huxley
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                      > > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                      > > > > > with a new message for every age and a
                      > > > > > new meaning for every civilization."
                      > > > > > Sri Aurobindo
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                      > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                      > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                      > > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                      > > > > > Henry David Thoreau
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                      > > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                      > > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                      > > > > > Herman Hesse
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                      > > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                      > > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                      > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                      > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                      > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                      > > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                      > > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                      > > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                      > > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                      > > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                      > > > > > questions which exercise us."
                      > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                      > > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                      > > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                      > > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                      > > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                      > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                      > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                      > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                      > > > > > Rudolph Steiner
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                      > > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                      > > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                      > > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                      > > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                      > > > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                      > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                      > > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                      > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                      > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                      > > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                      > > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                      > > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                      > > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                      > > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                      > > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                      > > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                      > > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                      > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                      > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                      > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                      > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                      > > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                      > > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                      > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                      > > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                      > > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                      > > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                      > > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                      > > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                      > > > > > Sri Ramanuja
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                      > > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                      > > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                      > > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                      > > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                      > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                      > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                      > > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                      > > > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                      > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                      > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                      > > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                      > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                      > > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                      > > > > > Adi Sankara
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                      > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                      > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                      > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                      > > > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                      > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                      > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                      > > > > > which is manifested by actions."
                      > > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                      > > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > >
                      >
                    • jogeshwarmahanta
                      So,I think, now there will be focus on Patanjali s Yoga Sutras,the smallest book of the greatest importance. regards ...
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                        So,I think, now there will be focus on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras,the
                        smallest book of the greatest importance.
                        regards


                        --- In
                        meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                        <jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Oh! I forgot one very important aspect.
                        >
                        > In relation to God:
                        >
                        > Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)
                        >
                        > Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon all
                        > and surrender to Me)-Lord Krishna
                        > regards
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > --- In
                        > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                        > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                        > >
                        > > Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat
                        > Geeta.
                        > >
                        > > No.
                        > > The definitions of Yoga:
                        > >
                        > > Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of
                        > mind/procliviries).
                        > >
                        > > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting
                        > success
                        > > and failure as the same)
                        > >
                        > > Objectives-Moksha.
                        > >
                        > > Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time and
                        > > space.
                        > >
                        > > Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.
                        > >
                        > > Approach:
                        > >
                        > > Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.
                        > >
                        > > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.
                        > >
                        > > regards
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                        > medit8ionsociety
                        > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > --- In
                        > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                        > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                        > > > >
                        > > > > No further views?
                        > > > > regards
                        > > > >
                        > > > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,
                        > > > I didn't realize that you were referring to
                        > > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you
                        > > > were, and that it was your unique spelling
                        > > > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable
                        > > > to reply. I don't see in any way that the
                        > > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.
                        > > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other
                        > > > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best
                        > > > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that
                        > > > eliminates the distractions that hold one back
                        > > > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that
                        > > > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the
                        > > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together
                        > > > they comprise the totality of all one
                        > > > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold
                        > > > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is
                        > > > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.
                        > > > Peace and Blessings,
                        > > > Bob
                        > > > > --- In
                        > > > >
                        meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                        > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice
                        > of
                        > > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find
                        > > objectives
                        > > > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a
                        > > better
                        > > > > > manual.
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > Thanks for this thread.
                        > > > > > regards
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                        > > > > medit8ionsociety
                        > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > One of the most common emails the
                        > > > > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                        > > > > > > asks for advice on which books are
                        > > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                        > > > > > > We had several this week and also
                        > > > > > > received an email from the Divya
                        > > > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                        > > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                        > > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                        > > > > > > reflace about how God created this
                        > > > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                        > > > > > > Albert Einstein
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                        > > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                        > > > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                        > > > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                        > > > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                        > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                        > > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                        > > > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                        > > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                        > > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                        > > > > > > India but to all of humanity."
                        > > > > > > Aldous Huxley
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                        > > > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                        > > > > > > with a new message for every age and a
                        > > > > > > new meaning for every civilization."
                        > > > > > > Sri Aurobindo
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                        > > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                        > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                        > > > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                        > > > > > > Henry David Thoreau
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                        > > > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                        > > > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                        > > > > > > Herman Hesse
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                        > > > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                        > > > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                        > > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                        > > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                        > > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                        > > > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                        > > > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                        > > > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                        > > > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                        > > > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                        > > > > > > questions which exercise us."
                        > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                        > > > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                        > > > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                        > > > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                        > > > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                        > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                        > > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                        > > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                        > > > > > > Rudolph Steiner
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                        > > > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                        > > > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                        > > > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                        > > > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                        > > > > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                        > > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                        > > > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                        > > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                        > > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                        > > > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                        > > > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                        > > > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                        > > > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                        > > > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                        > > > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                        > > > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                        > > > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                        > > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                        > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                        > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                        > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                        > > > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                        > > > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                        > > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                        > > > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                        > > > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                        > > > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                        > > > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                        > > > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                        > > > > > > Sri Ramanuja
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                        > > > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                        > > > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                        > > > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                        > > > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                        > > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                        > > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                        > > > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                        > > > > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                        > > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                        > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                        > > > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                        > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                        > > > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                        > > > > > > Adi Sankara
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                        > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                        > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                        > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                        > > > > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                        > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                        > > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                        > > > > > > which is manifested by actions."
                        > > > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > >
                        > >
                        >
                      • jvmarco
                        In my opinion, the best currently available book on meditation is The Myth of Freedom by Chogyam Trungpa. It is said that it takes 100 life times for a monk to
                        Message 11 of 18 , Jan 9, 2008
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                          In my opinion, the best currently available book on meditation is The
                          Myth of Freedom by Chogyam Trungpa.

                          It is said that it takes 100 life times for a monk to realize
                          enlightenment,...for a yogi it takes about 10 lifetimes,...however,
                          for a sly (wo)man, enlightenment can be realized in a single
                          lifetime. That meditation is called the Short Path or Vajrayana.

                          If you really cannot acknowledge the impermanence of duality and feel
                          you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by all
                          means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. If, on the other hand, you
                          realize that you don't have all the time in the world, and truly
                          appreciate how lucky you are to even have time for meditation, try
                          the Short Path.

                          V
                          :)


                          --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                          <jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > So,I think, now there will be focus on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras,the
                          > smallest book of the greatest importance.
                          > regards
                          >
                          >
                          > --- In
                          > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                          > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                          > >
                          > > Oh! I forgot one very important aspect.
                          > >
                          > > In relation to God:
                          > >
                          > > Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)
                          > >
                          > > Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon all
                          > > and surrender to Me)-Lord Krishna
                          > > regards
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > --- In
                          > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                          > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat
                          > > Geeta.
                          > > >
                          > > > No.
                          > > > The definitions of Yoga:
                          > > >
                          > > > Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of
                          > > mind/procliviries).
                          > > >
                          > > > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting
                          > > success
                          > > > and failure as the same)
                          > > >
                          > > > Objectives-Moksha.
                          > > >
                          > > > Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time and
                          > > > space.
                          > > >
                          > > > Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.
                          > > >
                          > > > Approach:
                          > > >
                          > > > Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.
                          > > >
                          > > > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.
                          > > >
                          > > > regards
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                          > > medit8ionsociety
                          > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > --- In
                          > > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                          > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > No further views?
                          > > > > > regards
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,
                          > > > > I didn't realize that you were referring to
                          > > > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you
                          > > > > were, and that it was your unique spelling
                          > > > > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable
                          > > > > to reply. I don't see in any way that the
                          > > > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.
                          > > > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other
                          > > > > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best
                          > > > > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that
                          > > > > eliminates the distractions that hold one back
                          > > > > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that
                          > > > > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the
                          > > > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together
                          > > > > they comprise the totality of all one
                          > > > > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold
                          > > > > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is
                          > > > > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.
                          > > > > Peace and Blessings,
                          > > > > Bob
                          > > > > > --- In
                          > > > > >
                          > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                          > > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and
                          practice
                          > > of
                          > > > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find
                          > > > objectives
                          > > > > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is
                          a
                          > > > better
                          > > > > > > manual.
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > Thanks for this thread.
                          > > > > > > regards
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                          > > > > > medit8ionsociety
                          > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > One of the most common emails the
                          > > > > > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                          > > > > > > > asks for advice on which books are
                          > > > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                          > > > > > > > We had several this week and also
                          > > > > > > > received an email from the Divya
                          > > > > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                          > > > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                          > > > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                          > > > > > > > reflace about how God created this
                          > > > > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                          > > > > > > > Albert Einstein
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                          > > > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                          > > > > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                          > > > > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                          > > > > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                          > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                          > > > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                          > > > > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                          > > > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                          > > > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                          > > > > > > > India but to all of humanity."
                          > > > > > > > Aldous Huxley
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                          > > > > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                          > > > > > > > with a new message for every age and a
                          > > > > > > > new meaning for every civilization."
                          > > > > > > > Sri Aurobindo
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                          > > > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                          > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                          > > > > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                          > > > > > > > Henry David Thoreau
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                          > > > > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                          > > > > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                          > > > > > > > Herman Hesse
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                          > > > > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                          > > > > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                          > > > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                          > > > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                          > > > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                          > > > > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                          > > > > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                          > > > > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                          > > > > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                          > > > > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                          > > > > > > > questions which exercise us."
                          > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                          > > > > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                          > > > > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                          > > > > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                          > > > > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                          > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                          > > > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                          > > > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                          > > > > > > > Rudolph Steiner
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                          > > > > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                          > > > > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                          > > > > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                          > > > > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                          > > > > > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                          > > > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                          > > > > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                          > > > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                          > > > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                          > > > > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                          > > > > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                          > > > > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                          > > > > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                          > > > > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                          > > > > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                          > > > > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                          > > > > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                          > > > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                          > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                          > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                          > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                          > > > > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                          > > > > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                          > > > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                          > > > > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                          > > > > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                          > > > > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                          > > > > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                          > > > > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                          > > > > > > > Sri Ramanuja
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                          > > > > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                          > > > > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                          > > > > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                          > > > > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                          > > > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                          > > > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                          > > > > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                          > > > > > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                          > > > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                          > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                          > > > > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                          > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                          > > > > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                          > > > > > > > Adi Sankara
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                          > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                          > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                          > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                          > > > > > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                          > > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                          > > > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                          > > > > > > > which is manifested by actions."
                          > > > > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          >
                        • jogeshwarmahanta
                          feel you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by all means go for Patanjali s Yoga Sutras. Yes. The first objective is to prolong your
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                            "feel
                            you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by all
                            means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras."

                            Yes. The first objective is to prolong your life span first.
                            regards



                            --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jvmarco"
                            <jvmarco@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > In my opinion, the best currently available book on meditation is
                            The
                            > Myth of Freedom by Chogyam Trungpa.
                            >
                            > It is said that it takes 100 life times for a monk to realize
                            > enlightenment,...for a yogi it takes about 10
                            lifetimes,...however,
                            > for a sly (wo)man, enlightenment can be realized in a single
                            > lifetime. That meditation is called the Short Path or Vajrayana.
                            >
                            > If you really cannot acknowledge the impermanence of duality and
                            feel
                            > you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by
                            all
                            > means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. If, on the other hand, you
                            > realize that you don't have all the time in the world, and truly
                            > appreciate how lucky you are to even have time for meditation, try
                            > the Short Path.
                            >
                            > V
                            > :)
                            >
                            >
                            > --- In
                            meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                            > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                            > >
                            > > So,I think, now there will be focus on Patanjali's Yoga
                            Sutras,the
                            > > smallest book of the greatest importance.
                            > > regards
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > --- In
                            > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                            > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > Oh! I forgot one very important aspect.
                            > > >
                            > > > In relation to God:
                            > > >
                            > > > Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)
                            > > >
                            > > > Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon
                            all
                            > > > and surrender to Me)-Lord Krishna
                            > > > regards
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > --- In
                            > > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                            > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write
                            Madbhagavat
                            > > > Geeta.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > No.
                            > > > > The definitions of Yoga:
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of
                            > > > mind/procliviries).
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting
                            > > > success
                            > > > > and failure as the same)
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Objectives-Moksha.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time
                            and
                            > > > > space.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Approach:
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > regards
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                            > > > medit8ionsociety
                            > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > --- In
                            > > > >
                            meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                            > > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > No further views?
                            > > > > > > regards
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,
                            > > > > > I didn't realize that you were referring to
                            > > > > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you
                            > > > > > were, and that it was your unique spelling
                            > > > > > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable
                            > > > > > to reply. I don't see in any way that the
                            > > > > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.
                            > > > > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other
                            > > > > > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best
                            > > > > > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that
                            > > > > > eliminates the distractions that hold one back
                            > > > > > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that
                            > > > > > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the
                            > > > > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together
                            > > > > > they comprise the totality of all one
                            > > > > > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold
                            > > > > > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is
                            > > > > > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.
                            > > > > > Peace and Blessings,
                            > > > > > Bob
                            > > > > > > --- In
                            > > > > > >
                            > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                            > > > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and
                            > practice
                            > > > of
                            > > > > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I
                            find
                            > > > > objectives
                            > > > > > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras
                            is
                            > a
                            > > > > better
                            > > > > > > > manual.
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > Thanks for this thread.
                            > > > > > > > regards
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                            > > > > > > medit8ionsociety
                            > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > One of the most common emails the
                            > > > > > > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                            > > > > > > > > asks for advice on which books are
                            > > > > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                            > > > > > > > > We had several this week and also
                            > > > > > > > > received an email from the Divya
                            > > > > > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                            > > > > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                            > > > > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                            > > > > > > > > reflace about how God created this
                            > > > > > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                            > > > > > > > > Albert Einstein
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                            > > > > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                            > > > > > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                            > > > > > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                            > > > > > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                            > > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                            > > > > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                            > > > > > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                            > > > > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                            > > > > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                            > > > > > > > > India but to all of humanity."
                            > > > > > > > > Aldous Huxley
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                            > > > > > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                            > > > > > > > > with a new message for every age and a
                            > > > > > > > > new meaning for every civilization."
                            > > > > > > > > Sri Aurobindo
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                            > > > > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                            > > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                            > > > > > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                            > > > > > > > > Henry David Thoreau
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                            > > > > > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                            > > > > > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                            > > > > > > > > Herman Hesse
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                            > > > > > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                            > > > > > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                            > > > > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                            > > > > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                            > > > > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                            > > > > > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                            > > > > > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                            > > > > > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                            > > > > > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                            > > > > > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                            > > > > > > > > questions which exercise us."
                            > > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                            > > > > > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                            > > > > > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                            > > > > > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                            > > > > > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                            > > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                            > > > > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                            > > > > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                            > > > > > > > > Rudolph Steiner
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                            > > > > > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                            > > > > > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                            > > > > > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                            > > > > > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                            > > > > > > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                            > > > > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                            > > > > > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                            > > > > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                            > > > > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                            > > > > > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                            > > > > > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                            > > > > > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                            > > > > > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                            > > > > > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                            > > > > > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                            > > > > > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                            > > > > > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                            > > > > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                            > > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                            > > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                            > > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                            > > > > > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                            > > > > > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                            > > > > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                            > > > > > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                            > > > > > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                            > > > > > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                            > > > > > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                            > > > > > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                            > > > > > > > > Sri Ramanuja
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                            > > > > > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                            > > > > > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                            > > > > > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                            > > > > > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                            > > > > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                            > > > > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                            > > > > > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                            > > > > > > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                            > > > > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                            > > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                            > > > > > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                            > > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                            > > > > > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                            > > > > > > > > Adi Sankara
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                            > > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                            > > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                            > > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                            > > > > > > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                            > > > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                            > > > > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                            > > > > > > > > which is manifested by actions."
                            > > > > > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            >
                          • Balasubramanian Radhakrishnan Kumar
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                              Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharishi's self enquiry method for self realisation is the shortest and the best. -- B.R.Kumar, Chennai -41, INDIA


                              To: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
                              From: jogeshwarmahanta@...
                              Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:17:00 +0000
                              Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: The Best Book on Meditation

                              "feel
                              you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by all
                              means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras."

                              Yes. The first objective is to prolong your life span first.
                              regards

                              --- In meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "jvmarco"
                              <jvmarco@... > wrote:
                              >
                              > In my opinion, the best currently available book on meditation is
                              The
                              > Myth of Freedom by Chogyam Trungpa.
                              >
                              > It is said that it takes 100 life times for a monk to realize
                              > enlightenment, ...for a yogi it takes about 10
                              lifetimes,.. .however,
                              > for a sly (wo)man, enlightenment can be realized in a single
                              > lifetime. That meditation is called the Short Path or Vajrayana.
                              >
                              > If you really cannot acknowledge the impermanence of duality and
                              feel
                              > you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by
                              all
                              > means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. If, on the other hand, you
                              > realize that you don't have all the time in the world, and truly
                              > appreciate how lucky you are to even have time for meditation, try
                              > the Short Path.
                              >
                              > V
                              > :)
                              >
                              >
                              > --- In
                              meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                              > <jogeshwarmahanta@ > wrote:
                              > >
                              > > So,I think, now there will be focus on Patanjali's Yoga
                              Sutras,the
                              > > smallest book of the greatest importance.
                              > > regards
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > --- In
                              > > meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                              > > <jogeshwarmahanta@ > wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > Oh! I forgot one very important aspect.
                              > > >
                              > > > In relation to God:
                              > > >
                              > > > Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva( Or by devotion to God)
                              > > >
                              > > > Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon
                              all
                              > > > and surrender to Me)-Lord Krishna
                              > > > regards
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > --- In
                              > > > meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                              > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@ > wrote:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write
                              Madbhagavat
                              > > > Geeta.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > No.
                              > > > > The definitions of Yoga:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Patnjali-Yogaschitt avritti norodhah(Regulation of
                              > > > mind/procliviries) .
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting
                              > > > success
                              > > > > and failure as the same)
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Objectives-Moksha.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcen ding time
                              and
                              > > > > space.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/ The Braman.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Approach:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Patanjali-Continuou s deconditioning and reconditioning.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > regards
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > --- In meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com,
                              > > > medit8ionsociety
                              > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > --- In
                              > > > >
                              meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                              > > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@ > wrote:
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > No further views?
                              > > > > > > regards
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,
                              > > > > > I didn't realize that you were referring to
                              > > > > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you
                              > > > > > were, and that it was your unique spelling
                              > > > > > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable
                              > > > > > to reply. I don't see in any way that the
                              > > > > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.
                              > > > > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other
                              > > > > > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best
                              > > > > > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that
                              > > > > > eliminates the distractions that hold one back
                              > > > > > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that
                              > > > > > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the
                              > > > > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together
                              > > > > > they comprise the totality of all one
                              > > > > > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold
                              > > > > > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is
                              > > > > > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.
                              > > > > > Peace and Blessings,
                              > > > > > Bob
                              > > > > > > --- In
                              > > > > > >
                              > > meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                              > > > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@ > wrote:
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and
                              > practice
                              > > > of
                              > > > > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I
                              find
                              > > > > objectives
                              > > > > > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras
                              is
                              > a
                              > > > > better
                              > > > > > > > manual.
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > Thanks for this thread.
                              > > > > > > > regards
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com,
                              > > > > > > medit8ionsociety
                              > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > One of the most common emails the
                              > > > > > > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                              > > > > > > > > asks for advice on which books are
                              > > > > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                              > > > > > > > > We had several this week and also
                              > > > > > > > > received an email from the Divya
                              > > > > > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                              > > > > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                              > > > > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                              > > > > > > > > reflace about how God created this
                              > > > > > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous. "
                              > > > > > > > > Albert Einstein
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                              > > > > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                              > > > > > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                              > > > > > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                              > > > > > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                              > > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                              > > > > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                              > > > > > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                              > > > > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                              > > > > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                              > > > > > > > > India but to all of humanity."
                              > > > > > > > > Aldous Huxley
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                              > > > > > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                              > > > > > > > > with a new message for every age and a
                              > > > > > > > > new meaning for every civilization. "
                              > > > > > > > > Sri Aurobindo
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                              > > > > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                              > > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                              > > > > > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                              > > > > > > > > Henry David Thoreau
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                              > > > > > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                              > > > > > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                              > > > > > > > > Herman Hesse
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                              > > > > > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                              > > > > > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                              > > > > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                              > > > > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                              > > > > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                              > > > > > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                              > > > > > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                              > > > > > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                              > > > > > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                              > > > > > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                              > > > > > > > > questions which exercise us."
                              > > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                              > > > > > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                              > > > > > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                              > > > > > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                              > > > > > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                              > > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                              > > > > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                              > > > > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                              > > > > > > > > Rudolph Steiner
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                              > > > > > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                              > > > > > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                              > > > > > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                              > > > > > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                              > > > > > > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                              > > > > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                              > > > > > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                              > > > > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                              > > > > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                              > > > > > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                              > > > > > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                              > > > > > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                              > > > > > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                              > > > > > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                              > > > > > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                              > > > > > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                              > > > > > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                              > > > > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                              > > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                              > > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita. "
                              > > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                              > > > > > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                              > > > > > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                              > > > > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                              > > > > > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                              > > > > > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                              > > > > > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                              > > > > > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                              > > > > > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                              > > > > > > > > Sri Ramanuja
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                              > > > > > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                              > > > > > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                              > > > > > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                              > > > > > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                              > > > > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                              > > > > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                              > > > > > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                              > > > > > > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                              > > > > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                              > > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                              > > > > > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                              > > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                              > > > > > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                              > > > > > > > > Adi Sankara
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                              > > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                              > > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita. " -
                              > > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                              > > > > > > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                              > > > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                              > > > > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                              > > > > > > > > which is manifested by actions."
                              > > > > > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > >
                              > >
                              >




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                            • jogeshwarmahanta
                              From 1 book to 4 now. regards ... realisation is the shortest and the best. -- B.R.Kumar, Chennai -41, INDIA ... Jan 2008 06:17:00 +0000Subject: [Meditation
                              Message 14 of 18 , Jan 9, 2008
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                                From 1 book to 4 now.
                                regards

                                --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Balasubramanian
                                Radhakrishnan Kumar <kumarbr20@...> wrote:
                                >
                                >
                                > Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharishi's self enquiry method for self
                                realisation is the shortest and the best. -- B.R.Kumar, Chennai -41,
                                INDIA
                                >
                                >
                                > To: meditationsocietyofamerica@...: jogeshwarmahanta@...: Thu, 10
                                Jan 2008 06:17:00 +0000Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re:
                                The Best Book on Meditation
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > "feelyou have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here,
                                by allmeans go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras."Yes. The first objective
                                is to prolong your life span first.regards--- In
                                meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jvmarco" <jvmarco@>
                                wrote:>> In my opinion, the best currently available book on
                                meditation is The > Myth of Freedom by Chogyam Trungpa.> > It is
                                said that it takes 100 life times for a monk to realize >
                                enlightenment,...for a yogi it takes about 10 lifetimes,...however,
                                > for a sly (wo)man, enlightenment can be realized in a single >
                                lifetime. That meditation is called the Short Path or Vajrayana.> >
                                If you really cannot acknowledge the impermanence of duality and
                                feel > you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here,
                                by all > means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. If, on the other
                                hand, you > realize that you don't have all the time in the world,
                                and truly > appreciate how lucky you are to even have time for
                                meditation, try > the Short Path. > > V> :)> > > --- In
                                meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta" >
                                <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:> >> > So,I think, now there will be focus
                                on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras,the > > smallest book of the greatest
                                importance.> > regards> > > > > > --- In > >
                                meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta" > >
                                <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:> > >> > > Oh! I forgot one very important
                                aspect.> > > > > > In relation to God:> > > > > > Patanjal-Ishwara
                                pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)> > > > > > Geeta-Sarba dharman
                                parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon all > > > and surrender to
                                Me)-Lord Krishna> > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > >
                                meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta" > > >
                                <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Sorry for the spelling
                                mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat > > > Geeta.> > > > > > > >
                                No. > > > > The definitions of Yoga:> > > > > > > > Patnjali-
                                Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of > > > mind/procliviries).>
                                > > > > > > > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate
                                (Accepting > > > success > > > > and failure as the same)> > > > > >
                                > > Objectives-Moksha.> > > > > > > > Patanjali-Attaining the purest
                                conscience/Transcending time and > > > > space.> > > > > > > > Geeta-
                                Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.> > > > > > > > Approach:> >
                                > > > > > > Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.>
                                > > > > > > > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached
                                manner.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                                > > > medit8ionsociety > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > -
                                -- In > > > >
                                meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"> > >
                                > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > No further
                                views?> > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > Yo Sri
                                Jogeshwarmahanta,> > > > > I didn't realize that you were referring
                                to > > > > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you > > > > >
                                were, and that it was your unique spelling> > > > > (Magbhagvat
                                Geeta) that made me feel unable> > > > > to reply. I don't see in
                                any way that the> > > > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.>
                                > > > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other> > > > >
                                perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best> > > > > prepare to
                                medtate and live a pure life that> > > > > eliminates the
                                distractions that hold one back> > > > > from experiencing the
                                bounty of treasures that> > > > > meditation brings. And the Sutras
                                are the> > > > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together> > >
                                > > they comprise the totality of all one> > > > > needs to learn,
                                and then do, to best unfold> > > > > the flower of peace, wisdom and
                                bliss that is> > > > > within and is the birthright of all of
                                humanity.> > > > > Peace and Blessings,> > > > > Bob> > > > > > ---
                                In > > > > > > > >
                                meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta" > > >
                                > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Has any
                                body gone through comparative reading and > practice > > > of > > >
                                > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find > >
                                > > objectives > > > > > > > of the two texts are diametrically
                                opposite.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the practice point of
                                view, I think, Yoga Sutras is > a > > > > better > > > > > > >
                                manual.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for this thread.> > > > >
                                > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, > > >
                                > > > medit8ionsociety > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:> > > > > > >
                                >> > > > > > > > One of the most common emails the> > > > > > > >
                                Meditation Society of America gets> > > > > > > > asks for advice on
                                which books are> > > > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.> >
                                > > > > > > We had several this week and also> > > > > > > >
                                received an email from the Divya> > > > > > > > Jivan Newsletter
                                that pointed to> > > > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll> >
                                > > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:> > > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and > > > > > > > >
                                reflace about how God created this> > > > > > > > universe
                                everything else seems so superfluous." > > > > > > > > Albert
                                Einstein> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on
                                humanity to > > > > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul> > > > > >
                                > > to pure duty and not to become mental > > > > > > > >
                                voluptuaries at the mercy of> > > > > > > > random desires and
                                undisciplined impulses."> > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji> > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic
                                statement > > > > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to
                                mankind. > > > > > > > > It is one of the most clear and
                                comprehensive > > > > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever
                                revealed;> > > > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not
                                only to > > > > > > > > India but to all of humanity."> > > > > > >
                                > Aldous Huxley> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is
                                a true scripture of the > > > > > > > > human race a living creation
                                rather than a book, > > > > > > > > with a new message for every age
                                and a> > > > > > > > new meaning for every civilization." > > > > >
                                > > > Sri Aurobindo> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In the morning I
                                bathe my intellect in the > > > > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal
                                philosophy of the > > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with
                                which our modern> > > > > > > > world and its literature seems puny
                                and trivial."> > > > > > > > Henry David Thoreau> > > > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly > > > > >
                                > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which > > > > > > > >
                                enables philosophy to blossom into religion." > > > > > > > > Herman
                                Hesse> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals
                                essentially with the > > > > > > > > spiritual foundation of human
                                existence. It is > > > > > > > > a call of action to meet the
                                obligations and> > > > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view
                                the spiritual > > > > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the
                                universe."> > > > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru> > > > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita. > > > >
                                > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire > > > > >
                                > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,> > > > > > > > but
                                large, serene, consistent, the voice of an > > > > > > > > old
                                intelligence which in another age and climate > > > > > > > > had
                                pondered and thus disposed of the same> > > > > > > > questions
                                which exercise us."> > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson> > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought > > > >
                                > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna > > > > > > > >
                                has all the attributes of the full-fledged> > > > > > > >
                                montheistic deity and at the same time the > > > > > > > >
                                attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."> > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo
                                Emerson> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In order to approach a
                                creation as sublime > > > > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full
                                understanding > > > > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to
                                it." -> > > > > > > > Rudolph Steiner> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the > > > > > > > >
                                Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam > > > > > > > > fully
                                reveals the true import of this doctrine> > > > > > > > which is
                                transmigation of the soul. On perusal > > > > > > > > of the first
                                chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may > > > > > > > > think that they are
                                advised to engage in> > > > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter
                                has been read > > > > > > > > it can be clearly understood that
                                knowledge and > > > > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be> >
                                > > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is > > > > >
                                > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of > > > > > > >
                                > high priority. If we continue and patiently> > > > > > > > take
                                the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and > > > > > > > > try to
                                ascertain the truth of its closing chapter > > > > > > > > we can
                                see that the ultimate conclusion> > > > > > > > is to relinquish all
                                the conceptualized ideas > > > > > > > > of religion which we
                                possess and fully surrender > > > > > > > > directly unto the
                                Supreme Lord."> > > > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada> > > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform > > > >
                                > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught > > > > > > >
                                > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." > > > > > > > > Swami
                                Vivekananda> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was
                                spoken by Lord Krishna to > > > > > > > > reveal the science of
                                devotion to God which is the > > > > > > > > essence of all
                                spiritual knowledge. The> > > > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas
                                primary purpose for descending > > > > > > > > and incarnating is
                                relieve the world of any demoniac > > > > > > > > and negative,
                                undesirable influences that are > > > > > > > > opposed to spiritual
                                development, yet> > > > > > > > simultaneously it is His
                                incomparable intention > > > > > > > > to be perpetually within
                                reach of all humanity."> > > > > > > > Sri Ramanuja> > > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal > > > >
                                > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear > > > > > > >
                                > and enabled me to deal with or understand." > > > > > > > > Swami
                                Nirmalananda Giri> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "When doubts haunt
                                me, when disappointments > > > > > > > > stare me in the face, and I
                                see not one ray of > > > > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to
                                Bhagavad-Gita and> > > > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I
                                immediately begin > > > > > > > > to smile in the midst of
                                overwhelming sorrow. Those > > > > > > > > who meditate on the Gita
                                will> > > > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every
                                day."> > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all > > > > > > > >
                                the goals of human existence become fulfilled. > > > > > > > >
                                Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence> > > > > > > > of all the
                                teachings of the Vedic scriptures."> > > > > > > > Adi Sankara> > >
                                > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to
                                perform > > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is
                                taught> > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -> > >
                                > > > > > Swami Vivekananda> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The
                                Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to > > > > > > > > His
                                devotee Arjuna."> > > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda> > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on > > >
                                > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God > > > > > > >
                                > which is manifested by actions."> > > > > > > > Dr. Albert
                                Schweizer> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> >
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