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  • medit8ionsociety
    One of the most common emails the Meditation Society of America gets asks for advice on which books are the best dealing with meditation. We had several this
    Message 1 of 18 , Dec 7, 2007
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      One of the most common emails the
      Meditation Society of America gets
      asks for advice on which books are
      the best dealing with meditation.
      We had several this week and also
      received an email from the Divya
      Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
      one answer to this question. We'll
      let these quotes speak for themselves:

      "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
      reflace about how God created this
      universe everything else seems so superfluous."
      Albert Einstein

      "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
      dedicate body, mind and soul
      to pure duty and not to become mental
      voluptuaries at the mercy of
      random desires and undisciplined impulses."
      Mahatma Gandhiji

      "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
      of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
      It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
      summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
      hence its enduring value is subject not only to
      India but to all of humanity."
      Aldous Huxley

      "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
      human race a living creation rather than a book,
      with a new message for every age and a
      new meaning for every civilization."
      Sri Aurobindo

      "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
      stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
      Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
      world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
      Henry David Thoreau

      "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
      beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
      enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
      Herman Hesse

      "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
      spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
      a call of action to meet the obligations and
      duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
      nature and grander purpose of the universe."
      Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

      "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
      It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
      spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
      but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
      old intelligence which in another age and climate
      had pondered and thus disposed of the same
      questions which exercise us."
      Ralph Waldo Emerson

      "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
      and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
      has all the attributes of the full-fledged
      montheistic deity and at the same time the
      attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
      Ralph Waldo Emerson

      "In order to approach a creation as sublime
      as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
      it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
      Rudolph Steiner

      "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
      Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
      fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
      which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
      of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
      think that they are advised to engage in
      warfare. When the second chapter has been read
      it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
      the soul is the ultimate goal to be
      attained. On studying the third chapter it is
      apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
      high priority. If we continue and patiently
      take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
      try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
      we can see that the ultimate conclusion
      is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
      of religion which we possess and fully surrender
      directly unto the Supreme Lord."
      Sri Swami Prabhupada

      "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
      actions without any fruitive desires is taught
      by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
      Swami Vivekananda

      "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
      reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
      essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
      Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
      and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
      and negative, undesirable influences that are
      opposed to spiritual development, yet
      simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
      to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
      Sri Ramanuja

      "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
      or external, that the Gita has not made clear
      and enabled me to deal with or understand."
      Swami Nirmalananda Giri

      "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
      stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
      hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
      find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
      to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
      who meditate on the Gita will
      derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
      Mahatma Gandhiji

      "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
      the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
      Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
      of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
      Adi Sankara

      "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
      actions without any fruitive desires is taught
      by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
      Swami Vivekananda

      "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
      His devotee Arjuna."
      Paramahansa Yogananda

      "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
      the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
      which is manifested by actions."
      Dr. Albert Schweizer
    • Gwyn Plaine
      So, the Gita?
      Message 2 of 18 , Dec 7, 2007
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        So, the Gita?

        On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

        One of the most common emails the
        Meditation Society of America gets
        asks for advice on which books are
        the best dealing with meditation.
        We had several this week and also
        received an email from the Divya
        Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
        one answer to this question. We'll
        let these quotes speak for themselves:

        "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
        reflace about how God created this
        universe everything else seems so superfluous."
        Albert Einstein

        "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
        dedicate body, mind and soul
        to pure duty and not to become mental
        voluptuaries at the mercy of
        random desires and undisciplined impulses."
        Mahatma Gandhiji

        "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
        of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
        It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
        summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
        hence its enduring value is subject not only to
        India but to all of humanity."
        Aldous Huxley

        "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
        human race a living creation rather than a book,
        with a new message for every age and a
        new meaning for every civilization."
        Sri Aurobindo

        "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
        stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
        Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
        world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
        Henry David Thoreau

        "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
        beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
        enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
        Herman Hesse

        "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
        spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
        a call of action to meet the obligations and
        duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
        nature and grander purpose of the universe."
        Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

        "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
        It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
        spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
        but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
        old intelligence which in another age and climate
        had pondered and thus disposed of the same
        questions which exercise us."
        Ralph Waldo Emerson

        "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
        and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
        has all the attributes of the full-fledged
        montheistic deity and at the same time the
        attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
        Ralph Waldo Emerson

        "In order to approach a creation as sublime
        as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
        it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
        Rudolph Steiner

        "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
        Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
        fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
        which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
        of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
        think that they are advised to engage in
        warfare. When the second chapter has been read
        it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
        the soul is the ultimate goal to be
        attained. On studying the third chapter it is
        apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
        high priority. If we continue and patiently
        take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
        try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
        we can see that the ultimate conclusion
        is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
        of religion which we possess and fully surrender
        directly unto the Supreme Lord."
        Sri Swami Prabhupada

        "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
        actions without any fruitive desires is taught
        by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
        Swami Vivekananda

        "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
        reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
        essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
        Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
        and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
        and negative, undesirable influences that are
        opposed to spiritual development, yet
        simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
        to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
        Sri Ramanuja

        "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
        or external, that the Gita has not made clear
        and enabled me to deal with or understand."
        Swami Nirmalananda Giri

        "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
        stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
        hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
        find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
        to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
        who meditate on the Gita will
        derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
        Mahatma Gandhiji

        "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
        the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
        Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
        of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
        Adi Sankara

        "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
        actions without any fruitive desires is taught
        by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
        Swami Vivekananda

        "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
        His devotee Arjuna."
        Paramahansa Yogananda

        "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
        the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
        which is manifested by actions."
        Dr. Albert Schweizer


      • medit8ionsociety
        ... Quite possibly the Gita is best of the best (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali). My favorite translation and commentary will be found in this
        Message 3 of 18 , Dec 7, 2007
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          --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn Plaine"
          <gplaine@...> wrote:
          >
          > So, the Gita?
          >
          Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
          (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
          My favorite translation and commentary
          will be found in this version:
          The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
          Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
          Many other "Best" books can be found on our
          Suggested Reading list:
          http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html
          Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
          Essential Writings on Nonduality
          ONE
          Edited by Jerry Katz
          and I would include one of the truly classic
          treasures to be:
          I AM THAT,
          Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

          But...I really think that there is no book
          that can do as much for your understanding of
          meditation and help your evolution in
          consciousness as actually meditating.
          Peace and blessings,
          Bob

          > On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
          wrote:
          >
          > > One of the most common emails the
          > > Meditation Society of America gets
          > > asks for advice on which books are
          > > the best dealing with meditation.
          > > We had several this week and also
          > > received an email from the Divya
          > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
          > > one answer to this question. We'll
          > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
          > >
          > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
          > > reflace about how God created this
          > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
          > > Albert Einstein
          > >
          > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
          > > dedicate body, mind and soul
          > > to pure duty and not to become mental
          > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
          > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
          > > Mahatma Gandhiji
          > >
          > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
          > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
          > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
          > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
          > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
          > > India but to all of humanity."
          > > Aldous Huxley
          > >
          > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
          > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
          > > with a new message for every age and a
          > > new meaning for every civilization."
          > > Sri Aurobindo
          > >
          > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
          > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
          > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
          > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
          > > Henry David Thoreau
          > >
          > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
          > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
          > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
          > > Herman Hesse
          > >
          > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
          > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
          > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
          > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
          > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
          > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
          > >
          > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
          > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
          > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
          > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
          > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
          > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
          > > questions which exercise us."
          > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
          > >
          > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
          > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
          > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
          > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
          > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
          > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
          > >
          > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
          > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
          > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
          > > Rudolph Steiner
          > >
          > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
          > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
          > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
          > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
          > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
          > > think that they are advised to engage in
          > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
          > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
          > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
          > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
          > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
          > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
          > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
          > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
          > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
          > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
          > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
          > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
          > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
          > >
          > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
          > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
          > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
          > > Swami Vivekananda
          > >
          > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
          > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
          > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
          > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
          > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
          > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
          > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
          > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
          > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
          > > Sri Ramanuja
          > >
          > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
          > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
          > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
          > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
          > >
          > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
          > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
          > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
          > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
          > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
          > > who meditate on the Gita will
          > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
          > > Mahatma Gandhiji
          > >
          > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
          > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
          > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
          > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
          > > Adi Sankara
          > >
          > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
          > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
          > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
          > > Swami Vivekananda
          > >
          > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
          > > His devotee Arjuna."
          > > Paramahansa Yogananda
          > >
          > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
          > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
          > > which is manifested by actions."
          > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
          > >
          > >
          > >
          >
        • Gwyn Plaine
          The Gita, even in sanskrit, isn t the most accessible book on meditative method, although it is one of the most comprehensive treatises on good living...a
          Message 4 of 18 , Dec 7, 2007
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            The Gita, even in sanskrit, isn't the most accessible book on meditative method, although it is one of the most comprehensive treatises on 'good' living...a form of meta text from which most other religions seem to be a dim, overly complex, reflection... I quite like The Gita As It Was: Rediscovering the Original Bhagavadgita by Phulgenda Sinha since it removes a lot of the late Bhraman accretions. Deepak Chopra's 'Sacred Verses, Healing Sounds' audio book is a very good 'intro' to the Gita... but to plunge a newbie to mysticism into the Gita is a bit like throwing a babe into a shark pool... it's not that friendly or useful...  one to avoid is Bhagavad-Gita As It Is: by AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, IMO since the text is swamped by (heavily biased) commentary. Yogananda's two volume commentary is good, but Yoganada was a poet in his own right... and you feel that he had less of an axe to grind than Prabhupada, being more concerned with the original intent of the late Gita...

            On Dec 8, 2007 1:27 AM, medit8ionsociety < no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

            --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn Plaine"
            <gplaine@...> wrote:
            >
            > So, the Gita?
            >
            Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
            (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
            My favorite translation and commentary
            will be found in this version:
            The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
            Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
            Many other "Best" books can be found on our
            Suggested Reading list:
            http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html
            Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
            Essential Writings on Nonduality
            ONE
            Edited by Jerry Katz
            and I would include one of the truly classic
            treasures to be:
            I AM THAT,
            Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

            But...I really think that there is no book
            that can do as much for your understanding of
            meditation and help your evolution in
            consciousness as actually meditating.
            Peace and blessings,
            Bob



            > On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
            wrote:
            >
            > > One of the most common emails the
            > > Meditation Society of America gets
            > > asks for advice on which books are
            > > the best dealing with meditation.
            > > We had several this week and also
            > > received an email from the Divya
            > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
            > > one answer to this question. We'll
            > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
            > >
            > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
            > > reflace about how God created this
            > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
            > > Albert Einstein
            > >
            > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
            > > dedicate body, mind and soul
            > > to pure duty and not to become mental
            > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
            > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
            > > Mahatma Gandhiji
            > >
            > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
            > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
            > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
            > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
            > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
            > > India but to all of humanity."
            > > Aldous Huxley
            > >
            > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
            > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
            > > with a new message for every age and a
            > > new meaning for every civilization."
            > > Sri Aurobindo
            > >
            > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
            > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
            > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
            > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
            > > Henry David Thoreau
            > >
            > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
            > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
            > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
            > > Herman Hesse
            > >
            > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
            > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
            > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
            > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
            > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
            > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
            > >
            > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
            > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
            > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
            > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
            > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
            > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
            > > questions which exercise us."
            > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
            > >
            > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
            > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
            > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
            > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
            > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
            > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
            > >
            > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
            > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
            > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
            > > Rudolph Steiner
            > >
            > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
            > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
            > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
            > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
            > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
            > > think that they are advised to engage in
            > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
            > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
            > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
            > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
            > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
            > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
            > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
            > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
            > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
            > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
            > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
            > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
            > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
            > >
            > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
            > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
            > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
            > > Swami Vivekananda
            > >
            > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
            > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
            > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
            > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
            > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
            > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
            > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
            > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
            > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
            > > Sri Ramanuja
            > >
            > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
            > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
            > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
            > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
            > >
            > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
            > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
            > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
            > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
            > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
            > > who meditate on the Gita will
            > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
            > > Mahatma Gandhiji
            > >
            > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
            > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
            > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
            > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
            > > Adi Sankara
            > >
            > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
            > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
            > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
            > > Swami Vivekananda
            > >
            > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
            > > His devotee Arjuna."
            > > Paramahansa Yogananda
            > >
            > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
            > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
            > > which is manifested by actions."
            > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
            > >
            > >
            > >
            >


          • sean tremblay
            It s been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife s required reading for her
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              It's been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife's required reading for her yoga training.  I would have to agree with Gwyn that it seems at least on surface to be a work more concerned with behavior than spirituality or meditation but I didn't get down to the gnats ass of it.  When I first read it I think I was looking at it from a historical or anthropological view a curiosity such as reading the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Icelandic chronicles and I considered it interesting from that point.  As an American and as a bit of an Anarchist in spirit I found the concepts of total abandonment of self to one duty or station in life to be a hard pill to swallow especial;y since I am a strong believer in the individuals choice for "Good" works especially when it come to making the choice for or against WAR, Violence, Killing ect...Or how we define the way in which we operate in this world IE what our calling is and how we choose to fulfill it. So when Krishna and Arjuna are poised and ready at the battle field and Arjuna expresses his doubt I can't help but think of Pakistan and India poised on the border of Kashmir both parties brandishing the Nuke option One side believing in Karmic predestination The other  in Gods righteous fury and quite frankly that scares the Bjesus outta me.  I might be reading it wrong but as a piece of literature I still enjoyed as a portal into the mind of an ancient
               culture

              medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
              --- In meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "Gwyn Plaine"
              <gplaine@... > wrote:
              >
              > So, the Gita?
              >
              Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
              (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
              My favorite translation and commentary
              will be found in this version:
              The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
              Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
              Many other "Best" books can be found on our
              Suggested Reading list:
              http://www.meditati onsociety. com/reading. html
              Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
              Essential Writings on Nonduality
              ONE
              Edited by Jerry Katz
              and I would include one of the truly classic
              treasures to be:
              I AM THAT,
              Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

              But...I really think that there is no book
              that can do as much for your understanding of
              meditation and help your evolution in
              consciousness as actually meditating.
              Peace and blessings,
              Bob

              > On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
              wrote:
              >
              > > One of the most common emails the
              > > Meditation Society of America gets
              > > asks for advice on which books are
              > > the best dealing with meditation.
              > > We had several this week and also
              > > received an email from the Divya
              > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
              > > one answer to this question. We'll
              > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
              > >
              > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
              > > reflace about how God created this
              > > universe everything else seems so superfluous. "
              > > Albert Einstein
              > >
              > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
              > > dedicate body, mind and soul
              > > to pure duty and not to become mental
              > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
              > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
              > > Mahatma Gandhiji
              > >
              > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
              > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
              > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
              > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
              > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
              > > India but to all of humanity."
              > > Aldous Huxley
              > >
              > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
              > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
              > > with a new message for every age and a
              > > new meaning for every civilization. "
              > > Sri Aurobindo
              > >
              > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
              > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
              > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
              > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
              > > Henry David Thoreau
              > >
              > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
              > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
              > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
              > > Herman Hesse
              > >
              > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
              > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
              > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
              > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
              > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
              > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
              > >
              > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
              > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
              > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
              > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
              > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
              > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
              > > questions which exercise us."
              > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
              > >
              > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
              > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
              > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
              > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
              > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
              > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
              > >
              > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
              > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
              > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
              > > Rudolph Steiner
              > >
              > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
              > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
              > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
              > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
              > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
              > > think that they are advised to engage in
              > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
              > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
              > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
              > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
              > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
              > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
              > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
              > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
              > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
              > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
              > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
              > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
              > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
              > >
              > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
              > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
              > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita. "
              > > Swami Vivekananda
              > >
              > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
              > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
              > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
              > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
              > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
              > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
              > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
              > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
              > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
              > > Sri Ramanuja
              > >
              > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
              > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
              > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
              > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
              > >
              > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
              > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
              > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
              > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
              > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
              > > who meditate on the Gita will
              > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
              > > Mahatma Gandhiji
              > >
              > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
              > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
              > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
              > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
              > > Adi Sankara
              > >
              > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
              > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
              > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita. " -
              > > Swami Vivekananda
              > >
              > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
              > > His devotee Arjuna."
              > > Paramahansa Yogananda
              > >
              > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
              > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
              > > which is manifested by actions."
              > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >



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            • medit8ionsociety
              ... through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife s required reading for her yoga training. I would have to agree with Gwyn that it
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                sean tremblay <bethjams9@...> wrote:
                >
                > It's been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing
                through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife's
                required reading for her yoga training. I would have to agree with
                Gwyn that it seems at least on surface to be a work more concerned
                with behavior than spirituality or meditation ...

                snip below

                The deal here is that many translations are very
                hard for Americans to "get". That's one main reason
                why I point to Swami Satchidananda's translation. His
                Americanized English is pretty clear. One aspect of this
                "war story" is that it can be seen to be pointing to the
                enemy that is within our mind...greed, hate, anger,
                jealousy, etc and that's what we really need to fight.
                Raja Yoga is the Yoga of Meditation and it has 8 steps.
                Here's the Wikipedia take on them.
                The eight limbs of Ashtanga (Raja) Yoga are:

                * Yama - Code of conduct - self-restraint
                * Niyama - religious observances - commitments
                to practice, such as study and devotion
                * Āsana - integration of mind and body
                through physical activity
                * Pranayama - regulation of breath leading
                to integration of mind and body
                * Pratyahara - abstraction of the senses,
                withdrawal of the senses of perception from their objects
                * Dharana - concentration, one-pointedness of mind
                * Dhyana - meditation (quiet activity that
                leads to samadhi)
                * Samadhi - the quiet state of blissful
                awareness, superconscious state

                As you can see, meditation has 6 steps before it can
                take place. Even just being able to concentrate will
                not happen without self-restraint, study, control of
                the mind and senses, etc. So if seen as a course in
                getting enough self control to meditate,the Gita is
                quite a guidebook.Everyone has something that is the
                main way that they become distracted when meditating.
                For some it can be their emotions, others their bodily
                reactivity, and many their mind chatter. That's the war
                that we need to wage. And seeing Krishna as the Divine
                identity within us and Arjuna as our "normal" mind/ego,
                the Gita and its directions on how life should be faced
                will well take us to where we must be for meditation to
                flow us into Samadhi.
                And in any event, it's a bit better than any Rambo movie
                if war stories are your thing.
                Peace and blessings,
                Bob


                but I didn't get down to the gnats ass of it. When I first read it I
                think I was looking at it from a historical or anthropological view a
                curiosity such as reading the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Icelandic
                chronicles and I considered it interesting from that point. As an
                American and as a bit of an Anarchist in spirit I found the concepts
                of total abandonment of self to one duty or station in life to be a
                hard pill to swallow especial;y since I am a strong believer in the
                individuals choice for "Good" works especially when it come to making
                the choice for or against WAR, Violence, Killing ect...Or how we
                define the way in which we operate in this world IE what our
                > calling is and how we choose to fulfill it. So when Krishna and
                Arjuna are poised and ready at the battle field and Arjuna expresses
                his doubt I can't help but think of Pakistan and India poised on the
                border of Kashmir both parties brandishing the Nuke option One side
                believing in Karmic predestination The other in Gods righteous fury
                and quite frankly that scares the Bjesus outta me. I might be reading
                it wrong but as a piece of literature I still enjoyed as a portal into
                the mind of an ancient
                > culture
                >
                > medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
                > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn
                Plaine"
                > <gplaine@> wrote:
                > >
                > > So, the Gita?
                > >
                > Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
                > (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
                > My favorite translation and commentary
                > will be found in this version:
                > The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
                > Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
                > Many other "Best" books can be found on our
                > Suggested Reading list:
                > http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html
                > Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
                > Essential Writings on Nonduality
                > ONE
                > Edited by Jerry Katz
                > and I would include one of the truly classic
                > treasures to be:
                > I AM THAT,
                > Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
                >
                > But...I really think that there is no book
                > that can do as much for your understanding of
                > meditation and help your evolution in
                > consciousness as actually meditating.
                > Peace and blessings,
                > Bob
                >
                > > On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
                > wrote:
                > >
                > > > One of the most common emails the
                > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                > > > asks for advice on which books are
                > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                > > > We had several this week and also
                > > > received an email from the Divya
                > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                > > >
                > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                > > > reflace about how God created this
                > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                > > > Albert Einstein
                > > >
                > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                > > >
                > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                > > > India but to all of humanity."
                > > > Aldous Huxley
                > > >
                > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                > > > with a new message for every age and a
                > > > new meaning for every civilization."
                > > > Sri Aurobindo
                > > >
                > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                > > > Henry David Thoreau
                > > >
                > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                > > > Herman Hesse
                > > >
                > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                > > >
                > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                > > > questions which exercise us."
                > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                > > >
                > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                > > >
                > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                > > > Rudolph Steiner
                > > >
                > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                > > >
                > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                > > > Swami Vivekananda
                > > >
                > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                > > > Sri Ramanuja
                > > >
                > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                > > >
                > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                > > >
                > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                > > > Adi Sankara
                > > >
                > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                > > > Swami Vivekananda
                > > >
                > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                > > >
                > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                > > > which is manifested by actions."
                > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
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              • sean tremblay
                Bob, Thanks for that. I think Getting it is the biggest hurdle when we work with resources outside of our normal cultural context and I do believe I was not
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                  Bob,
                  Thanks for that. I think "Getting it" is the biggest hurdle when we work with resources outside of our normal cultural context and I do believe I was not getting it for it's deeper meaning but I admit I didn't sit on it much either and in the context you have outlined I should give it a second look, it's funny that it was brought up because it keeps appearing on my coffee table when I have nothing to do.

                  medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
                  sean tremblay <bethjams9@. ..> wrote:
                  >
                  > It's been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing
                  through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife's
                  required reading for her yoga training. I would have to agree with
                  Gwyn that it seems at least on surface to be a work more concerned
                  with behavior than spirituality or meditation ...

                  snip below

                  The deal here is that many translations are very
                  hard for Americans to "get". That's one main reason
                  why I point to Swami Satchidananda' s translation. His
                  Americanized English is pretty clear. One aspect of this
                  "war story" is that it can be seen to be pointing to the
                  enemy that is within our mind...greed, hate, anger,
                  jealousy, etc and that's what we really need to fight.
                  Raja Yoga is the Yoga of Meditation and it has 8 steps.
                  Here's the Wikipedia take on them.
                  The eight limbs of Ashtanga (Raja) Yoga are:

                  * Yama - Code of conduct - self-restraint
                  * Niyama - religious observances - commitments
                  to practice, such as study and devotion
                  * &#256;sana - integration of mind and body
                  through physical activity
                  * Pranayama - regulation of breath leading
                  to integration of mind and body
                  * Pratyahara - abstraction of the senses,
                  withdrawal of the senses of perception from their objects
                  * Dharana - concentration, one-pointedness of mind
                  * Dhyana - meditation (quiet activity that
                  leads to samadhi)
                  * Samadhi - the quiet state of blissful
                  awareness, superconscious state

                  As you can see, meditation has 6 steps before it can
                  take place. Even just being able to concentrate will
                  not happen without self-restraint, study, control of
                  the mind and senses, etc. So if seen as a course in
                  getting enough self control to meditate,the Gita is
                  quite a guidebook.Everyone has something that is the
                  main way that they become distracted when meditating.
                  For some it can be their emotions, others their bodily
                  reactivity, and many their mind chatter. That's the war
                  that we need to wage. And seeing Krishna as the Divine
                  identity within us and Arjuna as our "normal" mind/ego,
                  the Gita and its directions on how life should be faced
                  will well take us to where we must be for meditation to
                  flow us into Samadhi.
                  And in any event, it's a bit better than any Rambo movie
                  if war stories are your thing.
                  Peace and blessings,
                  Bob

                  but I didn't get down to the gnats ass of it. When I first read it I
                  think I was looking at it from a historical or anthropological view a
                  curiosity such as reading the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Icelandic
                  chronicles and I considered it interesting from that point. As an
                  American and as a bit of an Anarchist in spirit I found the concepts
                  of total abandonment of self to one duty or station in life to be a
                  hard pill to swallow especial;y since I am a strong believer in the
                  individuals choice for "Good" works especially when it come to making
                  the choice for or against WAR, Violence, Killing ect...Or how we
                  define the way in which we operate in this world IE what our
                  > calling is and how we choose to fulfill it. So when Krishna and
                  Arjuna are poised and ready at the battle field and Arjuna expresses
                  his doubt I can't help but think of Pakistan and India poised on the
                  border of Kashmir both parties brandishing the Nuke option One side
                  believing in Karmic predestination The other in Gods righteous fury
                  and quite frankly that scares the Bjesus outta me. I might be reading
                  it wrong but as a piece of literature I still enjoyed as a portal into
                  the mind of an ancient
                  > culture
                  >
                  > medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
                  > --- In meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "Gwyn
                  Plaine"
                  > <gplaine@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > So, the Gita?
                  > >
                  > Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
                  > (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
                  > My favorite translation and commentary
                  > will be found in this version:
                  > The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
                  > Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
                  > Many other "Best" books can be found on our
                  > Suggested Reading list:
                  > http://www.meditati onsociety. com/reading. html
                  > Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
                  > Essential Writings on Nonduality
                  > ONE
                  > Edited by Jerry Katz
                  > and I would include one of the truly classic
                  > treasures to be:
                  > I AM THAT,
                  > Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
                  >
                  > But...I really think that there is no book
                  > that can do as much for your understanding of
                  > meditation and help your evolution in
                  > consciousness as actually meditating.
                  > Peace and blessings,
                  > Bob
                  >
                  > > On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
                  > wrote:
                  > >
                  > > > One of the most common emails the
                  > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                  > > > asks for advice on which books are
                  > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                  > > > We had several this week and also
                  > > > received an email from the Divya
                  > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                  > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                  > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                  > > >
                  > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                  > > > reflace about how God created this
                  > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous. "
                  > > > Albert Einstein
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                  > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                  > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                  > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                  > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                  > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                  > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                  > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                  > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                  > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                  > > > India but to all of humanity."
                  > > > Aldous Huxley
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                  > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                  > > > with a new message for every age and a
                  > > > new meaning for every civilization. "
                  > > > Sri Aurobindo
                  > > >
                  > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                  > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                  > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                  > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                  > > > Henry David Thoreau
                  > > >
                  > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                  > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                  > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                  > > > Herman Hesse
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                  > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                  > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                  > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                  > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                  > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                  > > >
                  > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                  > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                  > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                  > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                  > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                  > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                  > > > questions which exercise us."
                  > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                  > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                  > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                  > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                  > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                  > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                  > > >
                  > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                  > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                  > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                  > > > Rudolph Steiner
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                  > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                  > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                  > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                  > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                  > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                  > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                  > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                  > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                  > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                  > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                  > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                  > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                  > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                  > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                  > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                  > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                  > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                  > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                  > > >
                  > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                  > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                  > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita. "
                  > > > Swami Vivekananda
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                  > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                  > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                  > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                  > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                  > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                  > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                  > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                  > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                  > > > Sri Ramanuja
                  > > >
                  > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                  > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                  > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                  > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                  > > >
                  > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                  > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                  > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                  > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                  > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                  > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                  > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                  > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                  > > >
                  > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                  > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                  > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                  > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                  > > > Adi Sankara
                  > > >
                  > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                  > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                  > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita. " -
                  > > > Swami Vivekananda
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                  > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                  > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                  > > >
                  > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                  > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                  > > > which is manifested by actions."
                  > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
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                • Gwyn Plaine
                  The issue for me is, if it requires that level of exegesis even to a Vedic, then I d say is while it may be a good and comprehensive allegory on the meditative
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                    The issue for me is, if it requires that level of exegesis even to a Vedic, then I'd say is while it may be a good and comprehensive allegory on the meditative practice, (and I don't think anyone who's studied the field is disagreeing that) it's not 'the best' simply due to the level of opaqueness in the narrative. It is far from a 'how to' on meditation. Yogananda managed to run it to two pretty encyclopaedic slipcovered volumes.As to not getting it... like most religious texts there is the overt meaning, the allegorical meaning and the 'initiate' view. Having spent most of my adult life with my head in Middle Eastern, Southern Asiatic and Far Eastern religious thought, there is a lot that is critically dependent on cultural mores of the region, some that it genuinely a hidden in plain sight version, and a lot that is mental Rorschachery due to later reader's exegetical cultural lens...

                    Please note, I'm not disagreeing with your point, far from it, but I am presenting a slight cautionary note to the effect there is possibly an inkblot psychology involved.

                    On Dec 9, 2007 1:57 AM, sean tremblay < bethjams9@...> wrote:

                    Bob,
                    Thanks for that. I think "Getting it" is the biggest hurdle when we work with resources outside of our normal cultural context and I do believe I was not getting it for it's deeper meaning but I admit I didn't sit on it much either and in the context you have outlined I should give it a second look, it's funny that it was brought up because it keeps appearing on my coffee table when I have nothing to do.


                    medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
                    sean tremblay <bethjams9@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > It's been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing
                    through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife's
                    required reading for her yoga training. I would have to agree with
                    Gwyn that it seems at least on surface to be a work more concerned
                    with behavior than spirituality or meditation ...

                    snip below

                    The deal here is that many translations are very
                    hard for Americans to "get". That's one main reason
                    why I point to Swami Satchidananda's translation. His
                    Americanized English is pretty clear. One aspect of this
                    "war story" is that it can be seen to be pointing to the
                    enemy that is within our mind...greed, hate, anger,
                    jealousy, etc and that's what we really need to fight.
                    Raja Yoga is the Yoga of Meditation and it has 8 steps.
                    Here's the Wikipedia take on them.
                    The eight limbs of Ashtanga (Raja) Yoga are:

                    * Yama - Code of conduct - self-restraint
                    * Niyama - religious observances - commitments
                    to practice, such as study and devotion
                    * &#256;sana - integration of mind and body
                    through physical activity
                    * Pranayama - regulation of breath leading
                    to integration of mind and body
                    * Pratyahara - abstraction of the senses,
                    withdrawal of the senses of perception from their objects
                    * Dharana - concentration, one-pointedness of mind
                    * Dhyana - meditation (quiet activity that
                    leads to samadhi)
                    * Samadhi - the quiet state of blissful
                    awareness, superconscious state

                    As you can see, meditation has 6 steps before it can
                    take place. Even just being able to concentrate will
                    not happen without self-restraint, study, control of
                    the mind and senses, etc. So if seen as a course in
                    getting enough self control to meditate,the Gita is
                    quite a guidebook.Everyone has something that is the
                    main way that they become distracted when meditating.
                    For some it can be their emotions, others their bodily
                    reactivity, and many their mind chatter. That's the war
                    that we need to wage. And seeing Krishna as the Divine
                    identity within us and Arjuna as our "normal" mind/ego,
                    the Gita and its directions on how life should be faced
                    will well take us to where we must be for meditation to
                    flow us into Samadhi.
                    And in any event, it's a bit better than any Rambo movie
                    if war stories are your thing.
                    Peace and blessings,
                    Bob

                    but I didn't get down to the gnats ass of it. When I first read it I
                    think I was looking at it from a historical or anthropological view a
                    curiosity such as reading the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Icelandic
                    chronicles and I considered it interesting from that point. As an
                    American and as a bit of an Anarchist in spirit I found the concepts
                    of total abandonment of self to one duty or station in life to be a
                    hard pill to swallow especial;y since I am a strong believer in the
                    individuals choice for "Good" works especially when it come to making
                    the choice for or against WAR, Violence, Killing ect...Or how we
                    define the way in which we operate in this world IE what our
                    > calling is and how we choose to fulfill it. So when Krishna and
                    Arjuna are poised and ready at the battle field and Arjuna expresses
                    his doubt I can't help but think of Pakistan and India poised on the
                    border of Kashmir both parties brandishing the Nuke option One side
                    believing in Karmic predestination The other in Gods righteous fury
                    and quite frankly that scares the Bjesus outta me. I might be reading
                    it wrong but as a piece of literature I still enjoyed as a portal into
                    the mind of an ancient
                    > culture
                    >
                    > medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
                    > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn
                    Plaine"
                    > <gplaine@> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > So, the Gita?
                    > >
                    > Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
                    > (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
                    > My favorite translation and commentary
                    > will be found in this version:
                    > The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
                    > Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
                    > Many other "Best" books can be found on our
                    > Suggested Reading list:
                    > http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html
                    > Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
                    > Essential Writings on Nonduality
                    > ONE
                    > Edited by Jerry Katz
                    > and I would include one of the truly classic
                    > treasures to be:
                    > I AM THAT,
                    > Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
                    >
                    > But...I really think that there is no book
                    > that can do as much for your understanding of
                    > meditation and help your evolution in
                    > consciousness as actually meditating.
                    > Peace and blessings,
                    > Bob
                    >
                    > > On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety < no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
                    > wrote:
                    > >
                    > > > One of the most common emails the
                    > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                    > > > asks for advice on which books are
                    > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                    > > > We had several this week and also
                    > > > received an email from the Divya
                    > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                    > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                    > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                    > > >
                    > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                    > > > reflace about how God created this
                    > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                    > > > Albert Einstein
                    > > >
                    > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                    > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                    > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                    > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                    > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                    > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                    > > >
                    > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                    > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                    > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                    > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                    > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                    > > > India but to all of humanity."
                    > > > Aldous Huxley
                    > > >
                    > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                    > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                    > > > with a new message for every age and a
                    > > > new meaning for every civilization."
                    > > > Sri Aurobindo
                    > > >
                    > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                    > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                    > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                    > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                    > > > Henry David Thoreau
                    > > >
                    > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                    > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                    > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                    > > > Herman Hesse
                    > > >
                    > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                    > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                    > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                    > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                    > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                    > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                    > > >
                    > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                    > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                    > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                    > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                    > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                    > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                    > > > questions which exercise us."
                    > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                    > > >
                    > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                    > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                    > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                    > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                    > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                    > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                    > > >
                    > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                    > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                    > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                    > > > Rudolph Steiner
                    > > >
                    > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                    > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                    > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                    > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                    > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                    > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                    > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                    > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                    > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                    > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                    > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                    > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                    > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                    > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                    > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                    > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                    > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                    > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                    > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                    > > >
                    > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                    > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                    > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                    > > > Swami Vivekananda
                    > > >
                    > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                    > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                    > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                    > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                    > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                    > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                    > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                    > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                    > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                    > > > Sri Ramanuja
                    > > >
                    > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                    > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                    > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                    > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                    > > >
                    > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                    > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                    > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                    > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                    > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                    > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                    > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                    > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                    > > >
                    > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                    > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                    > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                    > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                    > > > Adi Sankara
                    > > >
                    > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                    > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                    > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                    > > > Swami Vivekananda
                    > > >
                    > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                    > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                    > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                    > > >
                    > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                    > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                    > > > which is manifested by actions."
                    > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
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                  • jogeshwarmahanta
                    Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice of Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali s Yoga Sutras? As I find objectives of the two texts are
                    Message 9 of 18 , Dec 15, 2007
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                      Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice of
                      Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find objectives
                      of the two texts are diametrically opposite.

                      From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a better
                      manual.

                      Thanks for this thread.
                      regards




                      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety
                      <no_reply@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > One of the most common emails the
                      > Meditation Society of America gets
                      > asks for advice on which books are
                      > the best dealing with meditation.
                      > We had several this week and also
                      > received an email from the Divya
                      > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                      > one answer to this question. We'll
                      > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                      >
                      > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                      > reflace about how God created this
                      > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                      > Albert Einstein
                      >
                      > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                      > dedicate body, mind and soul
                      > to pure duty and not to become mental
                      > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                      > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                      > Mahatma Gandhiji
                      >
                      > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                      > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                      > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                      > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                      > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                      > India but to all of humanity."
                      > Aldous Huxley
                      >
                      > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                      > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                      > with a new message for every age and a
                      > new meaning for every civilization."
                      > Sri Aurobindo
                      >
                      > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                      > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                      > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                      > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                      > Henry David Thoreau
                      >
                      > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                      > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                      > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                      > Herman Hesse
                      >
                      > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                      > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                      > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                      > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                      > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                      > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                      >
                      > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                      > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                      > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                      > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                      > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                      > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                      > questions which exercise us."
                      > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                      >
                      > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                      > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                      > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                      > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                      > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                      > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                      >
                      > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                      > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                      > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                      > Rudolph Steiner
                      >
                      > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                      > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                      > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                      > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                      > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                      > think that they are advised to engage in
                      > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                      > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                      > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                      > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                      > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                      > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                      > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                      > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                      > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                      > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                      > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                      > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                      > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                      >
                      > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                      > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                      > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                      > Swami Vivekananda
                      >
                      > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                      > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                      > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                      > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                      > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                      > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                      > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                      > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                      > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                      > Sri Ramanuja
                      >
                      > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                      > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                      > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                      > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                      >
                      > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                      > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                      > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                      > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                      > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                      > who meditate on the Gita will
                      > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                      > Mahatma Gandhiji
                      >
                      > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                      > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                      > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                      > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                      > Adi Sankara
                      >
                      > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                      > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                      > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                      > Swami Vivekananda
                      >
                      > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                      > His devotee Arjuna."
                      > Paramahansa Yogananda
                      >
                      > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                      > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                      > which is manifested by actions."
                      > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                      >
                    • jogeshwarmahanta
                      No further views? regards ... meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, jogeshwarmahanta ... medit8ionsociety
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                        No further views?
                        regards



                        --- In
                        meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                        <jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice of
                        > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find objectives
                        > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                        >
                        > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a better
                        > manual.
                        >
                        > Thanks for this thread.
                        > regards
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                        medit8ionsociety
                        > <no_reply@> wrote:
                        > >
                        > > One of the most common emails the
                        > > Meditation Society of America gets
                        > > asks for advice on which books are
                        > > the best dealing with meditation.
                        > > We had several this week and also
                        > > received an email from the Divya
                        > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                        > > one answer to this question. We'll
                        > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                        > >
                        > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                        > > reflace about how God created this
                        > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                        > > Albert Einstein
                        > >
                        > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                        > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                        > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                        > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                        > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                        > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                        > >
                        > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                        > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                        > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                        > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                        > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                        > > India but to all of humanity."
                        > > Aldous Huxley
                        > >
                        > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                        > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                        > > with a new message for every age and a
                        > > new meaning for every civilization."
                        > > Sri Aurobindo
                        > >
                        > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                        > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                        > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                        > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                        > > Henry David Thoreau
                        > >
                        > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                        > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                        > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                        > > Herman Hesse
                        > >
                        > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                        > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                        > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                        > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                        > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                        > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                        > >
                        > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                        > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                        > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                        > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                        > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                        > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                        > > questions which exercise us."
                        > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                        > >
                        > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                        > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                        > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                        > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                        > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                        > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                        > >
                        > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                        > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                        > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                        > > Rudolph Steiner
                        > >
                        > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                        > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                        > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                        > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                        > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                        > > think that they are advised to engage in
                        > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                        > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                        > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                        > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                        > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                        > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                        > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                        > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                        > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                        > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                        > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                        > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                        > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                        > >
                        > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                        > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                        > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                        > > Swami Vivekananda
                        > >
                        > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                        > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                        > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                        > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                        > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                        > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                        > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                        > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                        > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                        > > Sri Ramanuja
                        > >
                        > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                        > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                        > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                        > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                        > >
                        > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                        > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                        > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                        > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                        > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                        > > who meditate on the Gita will
                        > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                        > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                        > >
                        > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                        > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                        > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                        > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                        > > Adi Sankara
                        > >
                        > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                        > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                        > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                        > > Swami Vivekananda
                        > >
                        > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                        > > His devotee Arjuna."
                        > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                        > >
                        > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                        > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                        > > which is manifested by actions."
                        > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                        > >
                        >
                      • medit8ionsociety
                        ... Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta, I didn t realize that you were referring to the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you were, and that it was your unique
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                          --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                          <jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > No further views?
                          > regards
                          >
                          Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,
                          I didn't realize that you were referring to
                          the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you
                          were, and that it was your unique spelling
                          (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable
                          to reply. I don't see in any way that the
                          2 books as being "diametrically opposite.
                          Actually, I feel they compliment each other
                          perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best
                          prepare to medtate and live a pure life that
                          eliminates the distractions that hold one back
                          from experiencing the bounty of treasures that
                          meditation brings. And the Sutras are the
                          perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together
                          they comprise the totality of all one
                          needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold
                          the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is
                          within and is the birthright of all of humanity.
                          Peace and Blessings,
                          Bob
                          > --- In
                          > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                          > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                          > >
                          > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice of
                          > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find objectives
                          > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                          > >
                          > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a better
                          > > manual.
                          > >
                          > > Thanks for this thread.
                          > > regards
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                          > medit8ionsociety
                          > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > One of the most common emails the
                          > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                          > > > asks for advice on which books are
                          > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                          > > > We had several this week and also
                          > > > received an email from the Divya
                          > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                          > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                          > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                          > > >
                          > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                          > > > reflace about how God created this
                          > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                          > > > Albert Einstein
                          > > >
                          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                          > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                          > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                          > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                          > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                          > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                          > > >
                          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                          > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                          > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                          > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                          > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                          > > > India but to all of humanity."
                          > > > Aldous Huxley
                          > > >
                          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                          > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                          > > > with a new message for every age and a
                          > > > new meaning for every civilization."
                          > > > Sri Aurobindo
                          > > >
                          > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                          > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                          > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                          > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                          > > > Henry David Thoreau
                          > > >
                          > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                          > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                          > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                          > > > Herman Hesse
                          > > >
                          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                          > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                          > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                          > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                          > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                          > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                          > > >
                          > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                          > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                          > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                          > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                          > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                          > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                          > > > questions which exercise us."
                          > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                          > > >
                          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                          > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                          > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                          > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                          > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                          > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                          > > >
                          > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                          > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                          > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                          > > > Rudolph Steiner
                          > > >
                          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                          > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                          > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                          > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                          > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                          > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                          > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                          > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                          > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                          > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                          > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                          > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                          > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                          > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                          > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                          > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                          > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                          > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                          > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                          > > >
                          > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                          > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                          > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                          > > > Swami Vivekananda
                          > > >
                          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                          > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                          > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                          > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                          > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                          > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                          > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                          > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                          > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                          > > > Sri Ramanuja
                          > > >
                          > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                          > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                          > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                          > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                          > > >
                          > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                          > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                          > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                          > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                          > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                          > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                          > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                          > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                          > > >
                          > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                          > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                          > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                          > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                          > > > Adi Sankara
                          > > >
                          > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                          > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                          > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                          > > > Swami Vivekananda
                          > > >
                          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                          > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                          > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                          > > >
                          > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                          > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                          > > > which is manifested by actions."
                          > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                          > > >
                          > >
                          >
                        • jogeshwarmahanta
                          Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat Geeta. No. The definitions of Yoga: Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of
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                            Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat Geeta.

                            No.
                            The definitions of Yoga:

                            Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of mind/procliviries).

                            Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting success
                            and failure as the same)

                            Objectives-Moksha.

                            Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time and
                            space.

                            Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.

                            Approach:

                            Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.

                            Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.

                            regards






                            --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety
                            <no_reply@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > --- In
                            meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                            > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                            > >
                            > > No further views?
                            > > regards
                            > >
                            > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,
                            > I didn't realize that you were referring to
                            > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you
                            > were, and that it was your unique spelling
                            > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable
                            > to reply. I don't see in any way that the
                            > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.
                            > Actually, I feel they compliment each other
                            > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best
                            > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that
                            > eliminates the distractions that hold one back
                            > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that
                            > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the
                            > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together
                            > they comprise the totality of all one
                            > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold
                            > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is
                            > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.
                            > Peace and Blessings,
                            > Bob
                            > > --- In
                            > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                            > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice of
                            > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find
                            objectives
                            > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                            > > >
                            > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a
                            better
                            > > > manual.
                            > > >
                            > > > Thanks for this thread.
                            > > > regards
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                            > > medit8ionsociety
                            > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                            > > > >
                            > > > > One of the most common emails the
                            > > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                            > > > > asks for advice on which books are
                            > > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                            > > > > We had several this week and also
                            > > > > received an email from the Divya
                            > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                            > > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                            > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                            > > > > reflace about how God created this
                            > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                            > > > > Albert Einstein
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                            > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                            > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                            > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                            > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                            > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                            > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                            > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                            > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                            > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                            > > > > India but to all of humanity."
                            > > > > Aldous Huxley
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                            > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                            > > > > with a new message for every age and a
                            > > > > new meaning for every civilization."
                            > > > > Sri Aurobindo
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                            > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                            > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                            > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                            > > > > Henry David Thoreau
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                            > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                            > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                            > > > > Herman Hesse
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                            > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                            > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                            > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                            > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                            > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                            > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                            > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                            > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                            > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                            > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                            > > > > questions which exercise us."
                            > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                            > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                            > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                            > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                            > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                            > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                            > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                            > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                            > > > > Rudolph Steiner
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                            > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                            > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                            > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                            > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                            > > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                            > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                            > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                            > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                            > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                            > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                            > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                            > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                            > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                            > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                            > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                            > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                            > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                            > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                            > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                            > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                            > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                            > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                            > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                            > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                            > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                            > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                            > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                            > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                            > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                            > > > > Sri Ramanuja
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                            > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                            > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                            > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                            > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                            > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                            > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                            > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                            > > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                            > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                            > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                            > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                            > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                            > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                            > > > > Adi Sankara
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                            > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                            > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                            > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                            > > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                            > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                            > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                            > > > > which is manifested by actions."
                            > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            >
                          • jogeshwarmahanta
                            Oh! I forgot one very important aspect. In relation to God: Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God) Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam
                            Message 13 of 18 , Dec 30, 2007
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                              Oh! I forgot one very important aspect.

                              In relation to God:

                              Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)

                              Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon all
                              and surrender to Me)-Lord Krishna
                              regards



                              --- In
                              meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                              <jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat
                              Geeta.
                              >
                              > No.
                              > The definitions of Yoga:
                              >
                              > Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of
                              mind/procliviries).
                              >
                              > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting
                              success
                              > and failure as the same)
                              >
                              > Objectives-Moksha.
                              >
                              > Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time and
                              > space.
                              >
                              > Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.
                              >
                              > Approach:
                              >
                              > Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.
                              >
                              > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.
                              >
                              > regards
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                              medit8ionsociety
                              > <no_reply@> wrote:
                              > >
                              > > --- In
                              > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                              > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > No further views?
                              > > > regards
                              > > >
                              > > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,
                              > > I didn't realize that you were referring to
                              > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you
                              > > were, and that it was your unique spelling
                              > > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable
                              > > to reply. I don't see in any way that the
                              > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.
                              > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other
                              > > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best
                              > > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that
                              > > eliminates the distractions that hold one back
                              > > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that
                              > > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the
                              > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together
                              > > they comprise the totality of all one
                              > > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold
                              > > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is
                              > > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.
                              > > Peace and Blessings,
                              > > Bob
                              > > > --- In
                              > > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                              > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice
                              of
                              > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find
                              > objectives
                              > > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a
                              > better
                              > > > > manual.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Thanks for this thread.
                              > > > > regards
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                              > > > medit8ionsociety
                              > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > One of the most common emails the
                              > > > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                              > > > > > asks for advice on which books are
                              > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                              > > > > > We had several this week and also
                              > > > > > received an email from the Divya
                              > > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                              > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                              > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                              > > > > > reflace about how God created this
                              > > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                              > > > > > Albert Einstein
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                              > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                              > > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                              > > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                              > > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                              > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                              > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                              > > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                              > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                              > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                              > > > > > India but to all of humanity."
                              > > > > > Aldous Huxley
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                              > > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                              > > > > > with a new message for every age and a
                              > > > > > new meaning for every civilization."
                              > > > > > Sri Aurobindo
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                              > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                              > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                              > > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                              > > > > > Henry David Thoreau
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                              > > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                              > > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                              > > > > > Herman Hesse
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                              > > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                              > > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                              > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                              > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                              > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                              > > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                              > > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                              > > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                              > > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                              > > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                              > > > > > questions which exercise us."
                              > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                              > > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                              > > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                              > > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                              > > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                              > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                              > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                              > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                              > > > > > Rudolph Steiner
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                              > > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                              > > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                              > > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                              > > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                              > > > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                              > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                              > > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                              > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                              > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                              > > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                              > > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                              > > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                              > > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                              > > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                              > > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                              > > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                              > > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                              > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                              > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                              > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                              > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                              > > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                              > > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                              > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                              > > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                              > > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                              > > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                              > > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                              > > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                              > > > > > Sri Ramanuja
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                              > > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                              > > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                              > > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                              > > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                              > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                              > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                              > > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                              > > > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                              > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                              > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                              > > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                              > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                              > > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                              > > > > > Adi Sankara
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                              > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                              > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                              > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                              > > > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                              > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                              > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                              > > > > > which is manifested by actions."
                              > > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                              > > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > >
                              > >
                              >
                            • jogeshwarmahanta
                              So,I think, now there will be focus on Patanjali s Yoga Sutras,the smallest book of the greatest importance. regards ...
                              Message 14 of 18 , Jan 9, 2008
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                                So,I think, now there will be focus on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras,the
                                smallest book of the greatest importance.
                                regards


                                --- In
                                meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                <jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > Oh! I forgot one very important aspect.
                                >
                                > In relation to God:
                                >
                                > Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)
                                >
                                > Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon all
                                > and surrender to Me)-Lord Krishna
                                > regards
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > --- In
                                > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                                > >
                                > > Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat
                                > Geeta.
                                > >
                                > > No.
                                > > The definitions of Yoga:
                                > >
                                > > Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of
                                > mind/procliviries).
                                > >
                                > > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting
                                > success
                                > > and failure as the same)
                                > >
                                > > Objectives-Moksha.
                                > >
                                > > Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time and
                                > > space.
                                > >
                                > > Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.
                                > >
                                > > Approach:
                                > >
                                > > Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.
                                > >
                                > > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.
                                > >
                                > > regards
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                                > medit8ionsociety
                                > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                                > > >
                                > > > --- In
                                > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                                > > > >
                                > > > > No further views?
                                > > > > regards
                                > > > >
                                > > > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,
                                > > > I didn't realize that you were referring to
                                > > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you
                                > > > were, and that it was your unique spelling
                                > > > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable
                                > > > to reply. I don't see in any way that the
                                > > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.
                                > > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other
                                > > > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best
                                > > > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that
                                > > > eliminates the distractions that hold one back
                                > > > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that
                                > > > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the
                                > > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together
                                > > > they comprise the totality of all one
                                > > > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold
                                > > > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is
                                > > > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.
                                > > > Peace and Blessings,
                                > > > Bob
                                > > > > --- In
                                > > > >
                                meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice
                                > of
                                > > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find
                                > > objectives
                                > > > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a
                                > > better
                                > > > > > manual.
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Thanks for this thread.
                                > > > > > regards
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                                > > > > medit8ionsociety
                                > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > One of the most common emails the
                                > > > > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                                > > > > > > asks for advice on which books are
                                > > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                                > > > > > > We had several this week and also
                                > > > > > > received an email from the Divya
                                > > > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                                > > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                                > > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                                > > > > > > reflace about how God created this
                                > > > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                                > > > > > > Albert Einstein
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                                > > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                                > > > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                                > > > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                                > > > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                                > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                                > > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                                > > > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                                > > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                                > > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                                > > > > > > India but to all of humanity."
                                > > > > > > Aldous Huxley
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                                > > > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                                > > > > > > with a new message for every age and a
                                > > > > > > new meaning for every civilization."
                                > > > > > > Sri Aurobindo
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                                > > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                                > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                                > > > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                                > > > > > > Henry David Thoreau
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                                > > > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                                > > > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                                > > > > > > Herman Hesse
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                                > > > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                                > > > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                                > > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                                > > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                                > > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                                > > > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                                > > > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                                > > > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                                > > > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                                > > > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                                > > > > > > questions which exercise us."
                                > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                                > > > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                                > > > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                                > > > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                                > > > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                                > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                                > > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                                > > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                                > > > > > > Rudolph Steiner
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                                > > > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                                > > > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                                > > > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                                > > > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                                > > > > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                                > > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                                > > > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                                > > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                                > > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                                > > > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                                > > > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                                > > > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                                > > > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                                > > > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                                > > > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                                > > > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                                > > > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                                > > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                                > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                                > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                                > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                                > > > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                                > > > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                                > > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                                > > > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                                > > > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                                > > > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                                > > > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                                > > > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                                > > > > > > Sri Ramanuja
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                                > > > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                                > > > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                                > > > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                                > > > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                                > > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                                > > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                                > > > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                                > > > > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                                > > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                                > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                                > > > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                                > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                                > > > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                                > > > > > > Adi Sankara
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                                > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                                > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                                > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                                > > > > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                                > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                                > > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                                > > > > > > which is manifested by actions."
                                > > > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > >
                                > >
                                >
                              • jvmarco
                                In my opinion, the best currently available book on meditation is The Myth of Freedom by Chogyam Trungpa. It is said that it takes 100 life times for a monk to
                                Message 15 of 18 , Jan 9, 2008
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                                  In my opinion, the best currently available book on meditation is The
                                  Myth of Freedom by Chogyam Trungpa.

                                  It is said that it takes 100 life times for a monk to realize
                                  enlightenment,...for a yogi it takes about 10 lifetimes,...however,
                                  for a sly (wo)man, enlightenment can be realized in a single
                                  lifetime. That meditation is called the Short Path or Vajrayana.

                                  If you really cannot acknowledge the impermanence of duality and feel
                                  you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by all
                                  means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. If, on the other hand, you
                                  realize that you don't have all the time in the world, and truly
                                  appreciate how lucky you are to even have time for meditation, try
                                  the Short Path.

                                  V
                                  :)


                                  --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                  <jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > So,I think, now there will be focus on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras,the
                                  > smallest book of the greatest importance.
                                  > regards
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > --- In
                                  > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                  > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > > Oh! I forgot one very important aspect.
                                  > >
                                  > > In relation to God:
                                  > >
                                  > > Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)
                                  > >
                                  > > Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon all
                                  > > and surrender to Me)-Lord Krishna
                                  > > regards
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > --- In
                                  > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                  > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat
                                  > > Geeta.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > No.
                                  > > > The definitions of Yoga:
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of
                                  > > mind/procliviries).
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting
                                  > > success
                                  > > > and failure as the same)
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Objectives-Moksha.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time and
                                  > > > space.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Approach:
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > regards
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                                  > > medit8ionsociety
                                  > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > --- In
                                  > > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                  > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > No further views?
                                  > > > > > regards
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,
                                  > > > > I didn't realize that you were referring to
                                  > > > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you
                                  > > > > were, and that it was your unique spelling
                                  > > > > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable
                                  > > > > to reply. I don't see in any way that the
                                  > > > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.
                                  > > > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other
                                  > > > > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best
                                  > > > > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that
                                  > > > > eliminates the distractions that hold one back
                                  > > > > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that
                                  > > > > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the
                                  > > > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together
                                  > > > > they comprise the totality of all one
                                  > > > > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold
                                  > > > > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is
                                  > > > > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.
                                  > > > > Peace and Blessings,
                                  > > > > Bob
                                  > > > > > --- In
                                  > > > > >
                                  > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                  > > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and
                                  practice
                                  > > of
                                  > > > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find
                                  > > > objectives
                                  > > > > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is
                                  a
                                  > > > better
                                  > > > > > > manual.
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > Thanks for this thread.
                                  > > > > > > regards
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                                  > > > > > medit8ionsociety
                                  > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > One of the most common emails the
                                  > > > > > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                                  > > > > > > > asks for advice on which books are
                                  > > > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                                  > > > > > > > We had several this week and also
                                  > > > > > > > received an email from the Divya
                                  > > > > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                                  > > > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                                  > > > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                                  > > > > > > > reflace about how God created this
                                  > > > > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                                  > > > > > > > Albert Einstein
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                                  > > > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                                  > > > > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                                  > > > > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                                  > > > > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                                  > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                                  > > > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                                  > > > > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                                  > > > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                                  > > > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                                  > > > > > > > India but to all of humanity."
                                  > > > > > > > Aldous Huxley
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                                  > > > > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                                  > > > > > > > with a new message for every age and a
                                  > > > > > > > new meaning for every civilization."
                                  > > > > > > > Sri Aurobindo
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                                  > > > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                                  > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                                  > > > > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                                  > > > > > > > Henry David Thoreau
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                                  > > > > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                                  > > > > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                                  > > > > > > > Herman Hesse
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                                  > > > > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                                  > > > > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                                  > > > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                                  > > > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                                  > > > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                                  > > > > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                                  > > > > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                                  > > > > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                                  > > > > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                                  > > > > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                                  > > > > > > > questions which exercise us."
                                  > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                                  > > > > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                                  > > > > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                                  > > > > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                                  > > > > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                                  > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                                  > > > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                                  > > > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                                  > > > > > > > Rudolph Steiner
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                                  > > > > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                                  > > > > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                                  > > > > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                                  > > > > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                                  > > > > > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                                  > > > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                                  > > > > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                                  > > > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                                  > > > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                                  > > > > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                                  > > > > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                                  > > > > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                                  > > > > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                                  > > > > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                                  > > > > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                                  > > > > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                                  > > > > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                                  > > > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                                  > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                                  > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                                  > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                                  > > > > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                                  > > > > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                                  > > > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                                  > > > > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                                  > > > > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                                  > > > > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                                  > > > > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                                  > > > > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                                  > > > > > > > Sri Ramanuja
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                                  > > > > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                                  > > > > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                                  > > > > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                                  > > > > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                                  > > > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                                  > > > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                                  > > > > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                                  > > > > > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                                  > > > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                                  > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                                  > > > > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                                  > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                                  > > > > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                                  > > > > > > > Adi Sankara
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                                  > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                                  > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                                  > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                                  > > > > > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                                  > > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                                  > > > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                                  > > > > > > > which is manifested by actions."
                                  > > > > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                • jogeshwarmahanta
                                  feel you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by all means go for Patanjali s Yoga Sutras. Yes. The first objective is to prolong your
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                                    "feel
                                    you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by all
                                    means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras."

                                    Yes. The first objective is to prolong your life span first.
                                    regards



                                    --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jvmarco"
                                    <jvmarco@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > In my opinion, the best currently available book on meditation is
                                    The
                                    > Myth of Freedom by Chogyam Trungpa.
                                    >
                                    > It is said that it takes 100 life times for a monk to realize
                                    > enlightenment,...for a yogi it takes about 10
                                    lifetimes,...however,
                                    > for a sly (wo)man, enlightenment can be realized in a single
                                    > lifetime. That meditation is called the Short Path or Vajrayana.
                                    >
                                    > If you really cannot acknowledge the impermanence of duality and
                                    feel
                                    > you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by
                                    all
                                    > means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. If, on the other hand, you
                                    > realize that you don't have all the time in the world, and truly
                                    > appreciate how lucky you are to even have time for meditation, try
                                    > the Short Path.
                                    >
                                    > V
                                    > :)
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > --- In
                                    meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                    > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > So,I think, now there will be focus on Patanjali's Yoga
                                    Sutras,the
                                    > > smallest book of the greatest importance.
                                    > > regards
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > --- In
                                    > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                    > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Oh! I forgot one very important aspect.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > In relation to God:
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon
                                    all
                                    > > > and surrender to Me)-Lord Krishna
                                    > > > regards
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > --- In
                                    > > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                    > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write
                                    Madbhagavat
                                    > > > Geeta.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > No.
                                    > > > > The definitions of Yoga:
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Patnjali-Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of
                                    > > > mind/procliviries).
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting
                                    > > > success
                                    > > > > and failure as the same)
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Objectives-Moksha.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcending time
                                    and
                                    > > > > space.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Approach:
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > regards
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                                    > > > medit8ionsociety
                                    > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > > > --- In
                                    > > > >
                                    meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                    > > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > No further views?
                                    > > > > > > regards
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,
                                    > > > > > I didn't realize that you were referring to
                                    > > > > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you
                                    > > > > > were, and that it was your unique spelling
                                    > > > > > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable
                                    > > > > > to reply. I don't see in any way that the
                                    > > > > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.
                                    > > > > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other
                                    > > > > > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best
                                    > > > > > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that
                                    > > > > > eliminates the distractions that hold one back
                                    > > > > > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that
                                    > > > > > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the
                                    > > > > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together
                                    > > > > > they comprise the totality of all one
                                    > > > > > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold
                                    > > > > > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is
                                    > > > > > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.
                                    > > > > > Peace and Blessings,
                                    > > > > > Bob
                                    > > > > > > --- In
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                    > > > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
                                    > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and
                                    > practice
                                    > > > of
                                    > > > > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I
                                    find
                                    > > > > objectives
                                    > > > > > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                                    > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras
                                    is
                                    > a
                                    > > > > better
                                    > > > > > > > manual.
                                    > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > Thanks for this thread.
                                    > > > > > > > regards
                                    > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                                    > > > > > > medit8ionsociety
                                    > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > One of the most common emails the
                                    > > > > > > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                                    > > > > > > > > asks for advice on which books are
                                    > > > > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                                    > > > > > > > > We had several this week and also
                                    > > > > > > > > received an email from the Divya
                                    > > > > > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                                    > > > > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                                    > > > > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                                    > > > > > > > > reflace about how God created this
                                    > > > > > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
                                    > > > > > > > > Albert Einstein
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                                    > > > > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                                    > > > > > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                                    > > > > > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                                    > > > > > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                                    > > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                                    > > > > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                                    > > > > > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                                    > > > > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                                    > > > > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                                    > > > > > > > > India but to all of humanity."
                                    > > > > > > > > Aldous Huxley
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                                    > > > > > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                                    > > > > > > > > with a new message for every age and a
                                    > > > > > > > > new meaning for every civilization."
                                    > > > > > > > > Sri Aurobindo
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                                    > > > > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                                    > > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                                    > > > > > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                                    > > > > > > > > Henry David Thoreau
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                                    > > > > > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                                    > > > > > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                                    > > > > > > > > Herman Hesse
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                                    > > > > > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                                    > > > > > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                                    > > > > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                                    > > > > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                                    > > > > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                                    > > > > > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                                    > > > > > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                                    > > > > > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                                    > > > > > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                                    > > > > > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                                    > > > > > > > > questions which exercise us."
                                    > > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                                    > > > > > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                                    > > > > > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                                    > > > > > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                                    > > > > > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                                    > > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                                    > > > > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                                    > > > > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                                    > > > > > > > > Rudolph Steiner
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                                    > > > > > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                                    > > > > > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                                    > > > > > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                                    > > > > > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                                    > > > > > > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                                    > > > > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                                    > > > > > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                                    > > > > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                                    > > > > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                                    > > > > > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                                    > > > > > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                                    > > > > > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                                    > > > > > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                                    > > > > > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                                    > > > > > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                                    > > > > > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                                    > > > > > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                                    > > > > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                                    > > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                                    > > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
                                    > > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                                    > > > > > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                                    > > > > > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                                    > > > > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                                    > > > > > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                                    > > > > > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                                    > > > > > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                                    > > > > > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                                    > > > > > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                                    > > > > > > > > Sri Ramanuja
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                                    > > > > > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                                    > > > > > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                                    > > > > > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                                    > > > > > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                                    > > > > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                                    > > > > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                                    > > > > > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                                    > > > > > > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                                    > > > > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                                    > > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                                    > > > > > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                                    > > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                                    > > > > > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                                    > > > > > > > > Adi Sankara
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                                    > > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                                    > > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
                                    > > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                                    > > > > > > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                                    > > > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                                    > > > > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                                    > > > > > > > > which is manifested by actions."
                                    > > > > > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                  • Balasubramanian Radhakrishnan Kumar
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                                      Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharishi's self enquiry method for self realisation is the shortest and the best. -- B.R.Kumar, Chennai -41, INDIA


                                      To: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
                                      From: jogeshwarmahanta@...
                                      Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:17:00 +0000
                                      Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: The Best Book on Meditation

                                      "feel
                                      you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by all
                                      means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras."

                                      Yes. The first objective is to prolong your life span first.
                                      regards

                                      --- In meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "jvmarco"
                                      <jvmarco@... > wrote:
                                      >
                                      > In my opinion, the best currently available book on meditation is
                                      The
                                      > Myth of Freedom by Chogyam Trungpa.
                                      >
                                      > It is said that it takes 100 life times for a monk to realize
                                      > enlightenment, ...for a yogi it takes about 10
                                      lifetimes,.. .however,
                                      > for a sly (wo)man, enlightenment can be realized in a single
                                      > lifetime. That meditation is called the Short Path or Vajrayana.
                                      >
                                      > If you really cannot acknowledge the impermanence of duality and
                                      feel
                                      > you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here, by
                                      all
                                      > means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. If, on the other hand, you
                                      > realize that you don't have all the time in the world, and truly
                                      > appreciate how lucky you are to even have time for meditation, try
                                      > the Short Path.
                                      >
                                      > V
                                      > :)
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > --- In
                                      meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                      > <jogeshwarmahanta@ > wrote:
                                      > >
                                      > > So,I think, now there will be focus on Patanjali's Yoga
                                      Sutras,the
                                      > > smallest book of the greatest importance.
                                      > > regards
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > --- In
                                      > > meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                      > > <jogeshwarmahanta@ > wrote:
                                      > > >
                                      > > > Oh! I forgot one very important aspect.
                                      > > >
                                      > > > In relation to God:
                                      > > >
                                      > > > Patanjal-Ishwara pranidhanadva( Or by devotion to God)
                                      > > >
                                      > > > Geeta-Sarba dharman parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon
                                      all
                                      > > > and surrender to Me)-Lord Krishna
                                      > > > regards
                                      > > >
                                      > > >
                                      > > >
                                      > > > --- In
                                      > > > meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                      > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@ > wrote:
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Sorry for the spelling mistake.I intended to write
                                      Madbhagavat
                                      > > > Geeta.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > No.
                                      > > > > The definitions of Yoga:
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Patnjali-Yogaschitt avritti norodhah(Regulation of
                                      > > > mind/procliviries) .
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate(Accepting
                                      > > > success
                                      > > > > and failure as the same)
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Objectives-Moksha.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Patanjali-Attaining the purest conscience/Transcen ding time
                                      and
                                      > > > > space.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Geeta-Merger with Him/God/Almighty/ The Braman.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Approach:
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Patanjali-Continuou s deconditioning and reconditioning.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached manner.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > regards
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > --- In meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com,
                                      > > > medit8ionsociety
                                      > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > > --- In
                                      > > > >
                                      meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                      > > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@ > wrote:
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > No further views?
                                      > > > > > > regards
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > Yo Sri Jogeshwarmahanta,
                                      > > > > > I didn't realize that you were referring to
                                      > > > > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you
                                      > > > > > were, and that it was your unique spelling
                                      > > > > > (Magbhagvat Geeta) that made me feel unable
                                      > > > > > to reply. I don't see in any way that the
                                      > > > > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.
                                      > > > > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other
                                      > > > > > perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best
                                      > > > > > prepare to medtate and live a pure life that
                                      > > > > > eliminates the distractions that hold one back
                                      > > > > > from experiencing the bounty of treasures that
                                      > > > > > meditation brings. And the Sutras are the
                                      > > > > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together
                                      > > > > > they comprise the totality of all one
                                      > > > > > needs to learn, and then do, to best unfold
                                      > > > > > the flower of peace, wisdom and bliss that is
                                      > > > > > within and is the birthright of all of humanity.
                                      > > > > > Peace and Blessings,
                                      > > > > > Bob
                                      > > > > > > --- In
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
                                      > > > > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@ > wrote:
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > Has any body gone through comparative reading and
                                      > practice
                                      > > > of
                                      > > > > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I
                                      find
                                      > > > > objectives
                                      > > > > > > > of the two texts are diametrically opposite.
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras
                                      is
                                      > a
                                      > > > > better
                                      > > > > > > > manual.
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > Thanks for this thread.
                                      > > > > > > > regards
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com,
                                      > > > > > > medit8ionsociety
                                      > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > One of the most common emails the
                                      > > > > > > > > Meditation Society of America gets
                                      > > > > > > > > asks for advice on which books are
                                      > > > > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.
                                      > > > > > > > > We had several this week and also
                                      > > > > > > > > received an email from the Divya
                                      > > > > > > > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
                                      > > > > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll
                                      > > > > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
                                      > > > > > > > > reflace about how God created this
                                      > > > > > > > > universe everything else seems so superfluous. "
                                      > > > > > > > > Albert Einstein
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
                                      > > > > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul
                                      > > > > > > > > to pure duty and not to become mental
                                      > > > > > > > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
                                      > > > > > > > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
                                      > > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
                                      > > > > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
                                      > > > > > > > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
                                      > > > > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
                                      > > > > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
                                      > > > > > > > > India but to all of humanity."
                                      > > > > > > > > Aldous Huxley
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
                                      > > > > > > > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
                                      > > > > > > > > with a new message for every age and a
                                      > > > > > > > > new meaning for every civilization. "
                                      > > > > > > > > Sri Aurobindo
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
                                      > > > > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
                                      > > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
                                      > > > > > > > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
                                      > > > > > > > > Henry David Thoreau
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
                                      > > > > > > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
                                      > > > > > > > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
                                      > > > > > > > > Herman Hesse
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
                                      > > > > > > > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
                                      > > > > > > > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
                                      > > > > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
                                      > > > > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
                                      > > > > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
                                      > > > > > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
                                      > > > > > > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
                                      > > > > > > > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
                                      > > > > > > > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
                                      > > > > > > > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
                                      > > > > > > > > questions which exercise us."
                                      > > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
                                      > > > > > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
                                      > > > > > > > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
                                      > > > > > > > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
                                      > > > > > > > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
                                      > > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
                                      > > > > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
                                      > > > > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
                                      > > > > > > > > Rudolph Steiner
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
                                      > > > > > > > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
                                      > > > > > > > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
                                      > > > > > > > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
                                      > > > > > > > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
                                      > > > > > > > > think that they are advised to engage in
                                      > > > > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
                                      > > > > > > > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
                                      > > > > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
                                      > > > > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
                                      > > > > > > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
                                      > > > > > > > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
                                      > > > > > > > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
                                      > > > > > > > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
                                      > > > > > > > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
                                      > > > > > > > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
                                      > > > > > > > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
                                      > > > > > > > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
                                      > > > > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                                      > > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                                      > > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita. "
                                      > > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
                                      > > > > > > > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
                                      > > > > > > > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
                                      > > > > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
                                      > > > > > > > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
                                      > > > > > > > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
                                      > > > > > > > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
                                      > > > > > > > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
                                      > > > > > > > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
                                      > > > > > > > > Sri Ramanuja
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
                                      > > > > > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
                                      > > > > > > > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
                                      > > > > > > > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
                                      > > > > > > > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
                                      > > > > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
                                      > > > > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
                                      > > > > > > > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
                                      > > > > > > > > who meditate on the Gita will
                                      > > > > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
                                      > > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
                                      > > > > > > > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
                                      > > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
                                      > > > > > > > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
                                      > > > > > > > > Adi Sankara
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
                                      > > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
                                      > > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita. " -
                                      > > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
                                      > > > > > > > > His devotee Arjuna."
                                      > > > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
                                      > > > > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
                                      > > > > > > > > which is manifested by actions."
                                      > > > > > > > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > >
                                      > >
                                      >




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                                    • jogeshwarmahanta
                                      From 1 book to 4 now. regards ... realisation is the shortest and the best. -- B.R.Kumar, Chennai -41, INDIA ... Jan 2008 06:17:00 +0000Subject: [Meditation
                                      Message 18 of 18 , Jan 9, 2008
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                                        From 1 book to 4 now.
                                        regards

                                        --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Balasubramanian
                                        Radhakrishnan Kumar <kumarbr20@...> wrote:
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharishi's self enquiry method for self
                                        realisation is the shortest and the best. -- B.R.Kumar, Chennai -41,
                                        INDIA
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > To: meditationsocietyofamerica@...: jogeshwarmahanta@...: Thu, 10
                                        Jan 2008 06:17:00 +0000Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re:
                                        The Best Book on Meditation
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > "feelyou have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here,
                                        by allmeans go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras."Yes. The first objective
                                        is to prolong your life span first.regards--- In
                                        meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jvmarco" <jvmarco@>
                                        wrote:>> In my opinion, the best currently available book on
                                        meditation is The > Myth of Freedom by Chogyam Trungpa.> > It is
                                        said that it takes 100 life times for a monk to realize >
                                        enlightenment,...for a yogi it takes about 10 lifetimes,...however,
                                        > for a sly (wo)man, enlightenment can be realized in a single >
                                        lifetime. That meditation is called the Short Path or Vajrayana.> >
                                        If you really cannot acknowledge the impermanence of duality and
                                        feel > you have 10 lifetimes to learn and earn your way out of here,
                                        by all > means go for Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. If, on the other
                                        hand, you > realize that you don't have all the time in the world,
                                        and truly > appreciate how lucky you are to even have time for
                                        meditation, try > the Short Path. > > V> :)> > > --- In
                                        meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta" >
                                        <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:> >> > So,I think, now there will be focus
                                        on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras,the > > smallest book of the greatest
                                        importance.> > regards> > > > > > --- In > >
                                        meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta" > >
                                        <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:> > >> > > Oh! I forgot one very important
                                        aspect.> > > > > > In relation to God:> > > > > > Patanjal-Ishwara
                                        pranidhanadva(Or by devotion to God)> > > > > > Geeta-Sarba dharman
                                        parityajya mamekam sharanam braja(Abandon all > > > and surrender to
                                        Me)-Lord Krishna> > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > >
                                        meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta" > > >
                                        <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Sorry for the spelling
                                        mistake.I intended to write Madbhagavat > > > Geeta.> > > > > > > >
                                        No. > > > > The definitions of Yoga:> > > > > > > > Patnjali-
                                        Yogaschittavritti norodhah(Regulation of > > > mind/procliviries).>
                                        > > > > > > > Geeta-Sdhyasidhyo samabhutwa samatwam yoga uchyate
                                        (Accepting > > > success > > > > and failure as the same)> > > > > >
                                        > > Objectives-Moksha.> > > > > > > > Patanjali-Attaining the purest
                                        conscience/Transcending time and > > > > space.> > > > > > > > Geeta-
                                        Merger with Him/God/Almighty/The Braman.> > > > > > > > Approach:> >
                                        > > > > > > Patanjali-Continuous deconditioning and reconditioning.>
                                        > > > > > > > Geeta-Just witnessing the happenings in detached
                                        manner.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
                                        > > > medit8ionsociety > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > -
                                        -- In > > > >
                                        meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"> > >
                                        > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > No further
                                        views?> > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > Yo Sri
                                        Jogeshwarmahanta,> > > > > I didn't realize that you were referring
                                        to > > > > > the Bhagavad Gita, but now I am assuming you > > > > >
                                        were, and that it was your unique spelling> > > > > (Magbhagvat
                                        Geeta) that made me feel unable> > > > > to reply. I don't see in
                                        any way that the> > > > > 2 books as being "diametrically opposite.>
                                        > > > > Actually, I feel they compliment each other> > > > >
                                        perfectly. The Gita shares how one can best> > > > > prepare to
                                        medtate and live a pure life that> > > > > eliminates the
                                        distractions that hold one back> > > > > from experiencing the
                                        bounty of treasures that> > > > > meditation brings. And the Sutras
                                        are the> > > > > perfect "how-to" book on meditation. Together> > >
                                        > > they comprise the totality of all one> > > > > needs to learn,
                                        and then do, to best unfold> > > > > the flower of peace, wisdom and
                                        bliss that is> > > > > within and is the birthright of all of
                                        humanity.> > > > > Peace and Blessings,> > > > > Bob> > > > > > ---
                                        In > > > > > > > >
                                        meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta" > > >
                                        > > > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Has any
                                        body gone through comparative reading and > practice > > > of > > >
                                        > > > > Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find > >
                                        > > objectives > > > > > > > of the two texts are diametrically
                                        opposite.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the practice point of
                                        view, I think, Yoga Sutras is > a > > > > better > > > > > > >
                                        manual.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for this thread.> > > > >
                                        > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, > > >
                                        > > > medit8ionsociety > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:> > > > > > >
                                        >> > > > > > > > One of the most common emails the> > > > > > > >
                                        Meditation Society of America gets> > > > > > > > asks for advice on
                                        which books are> > > > > > > > the best dealing with meditation.> >
                                        > > > > > > We had several this week and also> > > > > > > >
                                        received an email from the Divya> > > > > > > > Jivan Newsletter
                                        that pointed to> > > > > > > > one answer to this question. We'll> >
                                        > > > > > > let these quotes speak for themselves:> > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and > > > > > > > >
                                        reflace about how God created this> > > > > > > > universe
                                        everything else seems so superfluous." > > > > > > > > Albert
                                        Einstein> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on
                                        humanity to > > > > > > > > dedicate body, mind and soul> > > > > >
                                        > > to pure duty and not to become mental > > > > > > > >
                                        voluptuaries at the mercy of> > > > > > > > random desires and
                                        undisciplined impulses."> > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji> > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic
                                        statement > > > > > > > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to
                                        mankind. > > > > > > > > It is one of the most clear and
                                        comprehensive > > > > > > > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever
                                        revealed;> > > > > > > > hence its enduring value is subject not
                                        only to > > > > > > > > India but to all of humanity."> > > > > > >
                                        > Aldous Huxley> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is
                                        a true scripture of the > > > > > > > > human race a living creation
                                        rather than a book, > > > > > > > > with a new message for every age
                                        and a> > > > > > > > new meaning for every civilization." > > > > >
                                        > > > Sri Aurobindo> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In the morning I
                                        bathe my intellect in the > > > > > > > > stupendous and cosmogonal
                                        philosophy of the > > > > > > > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with
                                        which our modern> > > > > > > > world and its literature seems puny
                                        and trivial."> > > > > > > > Henry David Thoreau> > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly > > > > >
                                        > > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which > > > > > > > >
                                        enables philosophy to blossom into religion." > > > > > > > > Herman
                                        Hesse> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals
                                        essentially with the > > > > > > > > spiritual foundation of human
                                        existence. It is > > > > > > > > a call of action to meet the
                                        obligations and> > > > > > > > duties of life; yet keeping in view
                                        the spiritual > > > > > > > > nature and grander purpose of the
                                        universe."> > > > > > > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru> > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita. > > > >
                                        > > > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire > > > > >
                                        > > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,> > > > > > > > but
                                        large, serene, consistent, the voice of an > > > > > > > > old
                                        intelligence which in another age and climate > > > > > > > > had
                                        pondered and thus disposed of the same> > > > > > > > questions
                                        which exercise us."> > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo Emerson> > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought > > > >
                                        > > > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna > > > > > > > >
                                        has all the attributes of the full-fledged> > > > > > > >
                                        montheistic deity and at the same time the > > > > > > > >
                                        attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."> > > > > > > > Ralph Waldo
                                        Emerson> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In order to approach a
                                        creation as sublime > > > > > > > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full
                                        understanding > > > > > > > > it is necessary to attune our soul to
                                        it." -> > > > > > > > Rudolph Steiner> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the > > > > > > > >
                                        Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam > > > > > > > > fully
                                        reveals the true import of this doctrine> > > > > > > > which is
                                        transmigation of the soul. On perusal > > > > > > > > of the first
                                        chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may > > > > > > > > think that they are
                                        advised to engage in> > > > > > > > warfare. When the second chapter
                                        has been read > > > > > > > > it can be clearly understood that
                                        knowledge and > > > > > > > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be> >
                                        > > > > > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is > > > > >
                                        > > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of > > > > > > >
                                        > high priority. If we continue and patiently> > > > > > > > take
                                        the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and > > > > > > > > try to
                                        ascertain the truth of its closing chapter > > > > > > > > we can
                                        see that the ultimate conclusion> > > > > > > > is to relinquish all
                                        the conceptualized ideas > > > > > > > > of religion which we
                                        possess and fully surrender > > > > > > > > directly unto the
                                        Supreme Lord."> > > > > > > > Sri Swami Prabhupada> > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform > > > >
                                        > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught > > > > > > >
                                        > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." > > > > > > > > Swami
                                        Vivekananda> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was
                                        spoken by Lord Krishna to > > > > > > > > reveal the science of
                                        devotion to God which is the > > > > > > > > essence of all
                                        spiritual knowledge. The> > > > > > > > Supreme Lord Krishnas
                                        primary purpose for descending > > > > > > > > and incarnating is
                                        relieve the world of any demoniac > > > > > > > > and negative,
                                        undesirable influences that are > > > > > > > > opposed to spiritual
                                        development, yet> > > > > > > > simultaneously it is His
                                        incomparable intention > > > > > > > > to be perpetually within
                                        reach of all humanity."> > > > > > > > Sri Ramanuja> > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal > > > >
                                        > > > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear > > > > > > >
                                        > and enabled me to deal with or understand." > > > > > > > > Swami
                                        Nirmalananda Giri> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "When doubts haunt
                                        me, when disappointments > > > > > > > > stare me in the face, and I
                                        see not one ray of > > > > > > > > hope on the horizon, I turn to
                                        Bhagavad-Gita and> > > > > > > > find a verse to comfort me; and I
                                        immediately begin > > > > > > > > to smile in the midst of
                                        overwhelming sorrow. Those > > > > > > > > who meditate on the Gita
                                        will> > > > > > > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every
                                        day."> > > > > > > > Mahatma Gandhiji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all > > > > > > > >
                                        the goals of human existence become fulfilled. > > > > > > > >
                                        Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence> > > > > > > > of all the
                                        teachings of the Vedic scriptures."> > > > > > > > Adi Sankara> > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to
                                        perform > > > > > > > > actions without any fruitive desires is
                                        taught> > > > > > > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -> > >
                                        > > > > > Swami Vivekananda> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The
                                        Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to > > > > > > > > His
                                        devotee Arjuna."> > > > > > > > Paramahansa Yogananda> > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on > > >
                                        > > > > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God > > > > > > >
                                        > which is manifested by actions."> > > > > > > > Dr. Albert
                                        Schweizer> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> >
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