Re: [Meditation Society of America]The power of knowledge gives you an extra ed
- Jeff, thank you for the clarification. I am enjoying reading your explanations.Candy----- Original Message -----From: Jeff BelyeaSent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:18 AMSubject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The power of knowledge gives you an extra edI hope to add clarity here
and not confusion...
While it is ultimately true
that there is no seeking and
nothing to be sought...it is
a matter of timing.
When we are stirred by the
sense of unhappiness or "something
missing" in our lives, we do
initially seek an ineffable
"something" to satisfy the longing
for contentment and happiness.
Often, that occurs to us as
a new job, new car, bigger house,
bigger muscles, success on our
terms, new relationships, and so on.
But when we achieve any or all
of these "things", we find that
the longing remains and we hear
the old refrain, "Is this all there
is?"...and we're back on the search,
However, as tough as it may be
to swallow, the paradox is that
we must give up the search (the
seduction as Sean described it)
and come to a place of absolute
surrender of the search, the
desires, the longing. We must
give it all up and just stop.
It is here, at the stop sign,
that the magic may happen. We
have "seeded" our magic garden
earlier with the search. To stay
with this metaphor, we must now
wait silently while the growth
begins without our conscious
knowledge. Any attempt to peek
too soon destroys the potential
fruit (or veggie) of Awakening.
This timing aspect causes a lot
of confusion and discouragement -
especially when those who are
not authentic in their "teaching"
speak and write about not seeking.
The curriculum runs: Seeking, Not
Seeking, SURPRISE! The surprise
is beyond anything we could think
or imagine, beyond description,
a joy unspeakable, a peace beyond
understanding. Of course, we cannot
seek it in advance, because IT
does not yield to concept or idea.
This is not the same as saying
that IT does not exist or IT is
some mental fabrication and opium
of the masses (or spiritually
drugged monkies on minimum wage
for an organ grinder).
Too long already. Hope there's
something here of clarity.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Sandeep
> sean tremblay wrote:
> > Sandeep,
> > Anouther great reply
> > I think what I am getting at is there is a seduction in Finding
> > THING and having possesion of it.
> *The very sense of "something-to-be-sought" call it THING or Self,
> Enlightenment or happiness
> constructs the sense of "you-the-seeker-of-the-defined-sought".
> The perpetuating of the sense of "something-to-be-sought"
> the sense of "you-the-seeker-of-the-defined-sought".
> The term being used is sense of..........as no such construction
> actually takes place.
> > I like to use the terms of dependent and independent realities,
> > kinda jives with me
> > The dependent reality as you know is the cause and efect response
> > causes suffering, and alienation, raises questions and fills in
> > blanks.... I'ts the filling in the blanks part that may lead a
> > to manufacture an answer that may or may not lead to fullfilment
> *Is there anything as independent reality?
> Is there anything really independent .......aka.......that which
> dependent on........... which it is supposed to be independent of?
> > *//*__,_._,__
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