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  • Jeff Belyea
    And I ve seen them in you. ... in my hound dog.
    Message 1 of 6 , Mar 1, 2007
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      And I've seen them in you.

      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, sean tremblay
      <bethjams9@...> wrote:
      >
      > I've seem mystic hearts in Indonesian street kids and sacred eyes
      in my hound dog.
      >
      > Jeff Belyea <jeff@...> wrote: A friend of mine of from
      > the 70s, who was the most
      > gifted poet I ever met in
      > person, spoke of those who look
      > down from their ivory towers
      > with no compassion for the
      > "bent over pilgrims" (those
      > lost and in dark despair).
      >
      > There is a "trance" that
      > socialization imposes on
      > virtually all people. There is
      > also a means of trance-ending,
      > for those who are desperate
      > for release from its grip.
      >
      > Many may be "successfully"
      > socialized and look no
      > further, but I agree with
      > Thoreau that "most live
      > lives of quiet desperation."
      > And some will not settle...
      > and become seekers.
      >
      > Yes, there is a danger in
      > seeking. But once the intuitive
      > stirring begins, few can turn
      > back from the seeking of
      > the elusive "something more".
      >
      > No one can "teach" transcendence,
      > but there are massive bodies of work
      > that report on its enlightening
      > power. The authentic reports are from
      > experiential knowledge.
      >
      > Neither not knowing about
      > transendence, nor disdaining
      > any talk of it, negates it.
      > Either there is an interest
      > and a passion to seek, or
      > there is a relative (or even
      > passionate) comfort with
      > life.
      >
      > For those bent over pilgrims:
      >
      > There may be those who sell
      > snake oil and seek only self-
      > aggrandizement,
      >
      > but..
      >
      > there are also those among us
      > who offer guidance from mystic
      > hearts and sacred eyes, from
      > pure compassion.
      >
      > In the Buddhist tradition,
      > these are Boddhisattvas.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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    • sean tremblay
      There is nothing special here Jeff, it s just a matter of being present at all moments and the gifts unfold for you. It s available to everybody. example : I
      Message 2 of 6 , Mar 1, 2007
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        There is nothing special here Jeff, it's just a matter of being present at all moments and the gifts unfold for you. It's available to everybody. example : I was asked once to take a class of people out on runs I thought why would they want to pay me to go running when all they have to do is open the door and go run.

        Jeff Belyea <jeff@...> wrote:
        They may be your teachers.
        You may be an old soul,
        blessed with uncommon
        vision.

        --- In meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, sean tremblay
        <bethjams9@. ..> wrote:
        >
        > I've seem mystic hearts in Indonesian street kids and sacred eyes
        in my hound dog.
        >
        > Jeff Belyea <jeff@...> wrote: A friend of mine of from
        > the 70s, who was the most
        > gifted poet I ever met in
        > person, spoke of those who look
        > down from their ivory towers
        > with no compassion for the
        > "bent over pilgrims" (those
        > lost and in dark despair).
        >
        > There is a "trance" that
        > socialization imposes on
        > virtually all people. There is
        > also a means of trance-ending,
        > for those who are desperate
        > for release from its grip.
        >
        > Many may be "successfully"
        > socialized and look no
        > further, but I agree with
        > Thoreau that "most live
        > lives of quiet desperation. "
        > And some will not settle...
        > and become seekers.
        >
        > Yes, there is a danger in
        > seeking. But once the intuitive
        > stirring begins, few can turn
        > back from the seeking of
        > the elusive "something more".
        >
        > No one can "teach" transcendence,
        > but there are massive bodies of work
        > that report on its enlightening
        > power. The authentic reports are from
        > experiential knowledge.
        >
        > Neither not knowing about
        > transendence, nor disdaining
        > any talk of it, negates it.
        > Either there is an interest
        > and a passion to seek, or
        > there is a relative (or even
        > passionate) comfort with
        > life.
        >
        > For those bent over pilgrims:
        >
        > There may be those who sell
        > snake oil and seek only self-
        > aggrandizement,
        >
        > but..
        >
        > there are also those among us
        > who offer guidance from mystic
        > hearts and sacred eyes, from
        > pure compassion.
        >
        > In the Buddhist tradition,
        > these are Boddhisattvas.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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      • Jeff Belyea
        Beautiful, Sean. Being present in all moments and the gifts unfold for you. is exquisite. To call the realization of this high teaching found in most, if not
        Message 3 of 6 , Mar 1, 2007
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          Beautiful, Sean.

          "Being present in all moments
          and the gifts unfold for you." is
          exquisite.

          To call the realization of this
          high teaching found in most, if
          not all, sacred writings, "nothing
          special" speaks to the wisdom
          that you know naturally.

          This is not common knowledge,
          certainly not commonly comprehended
          knowledge. It may be parroted
          intellectually, but to Know it
          is a different matter.

          Those who have not been graced
          with this wisdom are the
          "bent over pilgrims" needing
          compassion, that Bill Tremblay
          (the poet I mentioned earlier)
          wrote about.

          They are crippled by fear
          and doubt, and spend their
          time in regret for the past
          and in fear of the future.

          The bodhisattva Knows and yet
          vows not to enter fully into
          enlightenment (nirvana) until
          all sentient beings come to
          this knowledge experientially.

          Such is their compassion.

          About paying: a fine line
          between selfless help and
          greedy unfeeling exploitation.

          But for some, too frightened
          to run alone, there is an exchange
          of energy (money paid to the guide
          for guidance - running along side
          until they overcome the fear)
          that creates value for them and
          enhances their (a word from your
          earlier writings) faith - that they
          can come out of the dark fear into a
          marvelous light (end the trance),
          and enjoy life...being present in
          every moment, realizing that they
          need not fear or strive, and that
          the gifts will unfold...by grace.

          Thanks.


          --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, sean tremblay
          <bethjams9@...> wrote:
          >
          > There is nothing special here Jeff, it's just a matter of being
          present at all moments and the gifts unfold for you. It's available
          to everybody. example : I was asked once to take a class of people
          out on runs I thought why would they want to pay me to go running
          when all they have to do is open the door and go run.
          >
          > Jeff Belyea <jeff@...> wrote: They may be your teachers.
          > You may be an old soul,
          > blessed with uncommon
          > vision.
          >
          > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, sean tremblay
          > <bethjams9@> wrote:
          > >
          > > I've seem mystic hearts in Indonesian street kids and sacred eyes
          > in my hound dog.
          > >
          > > Jeff Belyea <jeff@> wrote: A friend of mine of from
          > > the 70s, who was the most
          > > gifted poet I ever met in
          > > person, spoke of those who look
          > > down from their ivory towers
          > > with no compassion for the
          > > "bent over pilgrims" (those
          > > lost and in dark despair).
          > >
          > > There is a "trance" that
          > > socialization imposes on
          > > virtually all people. There is
          > > also a means of trance-ending,
          > > for those who are desperate
          > > for release from its grip.
          > >
          > > Many may be "successfully"
          > > socialized and look no
          > > further, but I agree with
          > > Thoreau that "most live
          > > lives of quiet desperation."
          > > And some will not settle...
          > > and become seekers.
          > >
          > > Yes, there is a danger in
          > > seeking. But once the intuitive
          > > stirring begins, few can turn
          > > back from the seeking of
          > > the elusive "something more".
          > >
          > > No one can "teach" transcendence,
          > > but there are massive bodies of work
          > > that report on its enlightening
          > > power. The authentic reports are from
          > > experiential knowledge.
          > >
          > > Neither not knowing about
          > > transendence, nor disdaining
          > > any talk of it, negates it.
          > > Either there is an interest
          > > and a passion to seek, or
          > > there is a relative (or even
          > > passionate) comfort with
          > > life.
          > >
          > > For those bent over pilgrims:
          > >
          > > There may be those who sell
          > > snake oil and seek only self-
          > > aggrandizement,
          > >
          > > but..
          > >
          > > there are also those among us
          > > who offer guidance from mystic
          > > hearts and sacred eyes, from
          > > pure compassion.
          > >
          > > In the Buddhist tradition,
          > > these are Boddhisattvas.
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
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