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  • jodyrrr
    ... [snip] ... What is of little use are your grandiose stylings designed to aggrandize your deluded sense of self as an incarnation of God. Meditation is an
    Message 1 of 10 , Jul 5 10:40 AM
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      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "surya" <dattapr2000@...> wrote:

      [snip]

      > Meditation is continuous thinking of such knowledge and other interpretations are
      > either useless or of little use.

      What is of little use are your grandiose stylings designed to aggrandize your deluded sense
      of self as an incarnation of God.

      Meditation is an effort to engender clarity. Musing about your divinity brings clarity the
      way the winter runoff clarifies the Mississippi River.
    • daniel peter
      Dear , It s better for you to meditate upon this word of God. BIBLE MEDITATION: “Only rebel not ye against the LORD, neither fear ye the people of the land;
      Message 2 of 10 , Jul 6 4:27 AM
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        Dear ,
        It's better for you to meditate upon this word of
        God.
        BIBLE MEDITATION:
        “Only rebel not ye against the LORD, neither fear ye
        the people of the land; for they are bread for us:
        their defense is departed from them, and the LORD is
        with us: fear them not.” Numbers 14:9

        DEVOTIONAL THOUGHT:
        Joshua and Caleb faced formidable foes in the promised
        land, and yet what was their response to their
        enemies? “They are bread for us” (Numbers 14:9). What
        is bread? It is the staff of life. What happens when
        you eat bread? You are strengthened by it and you grow
        by it. Paul even said, “For a great door and effectual
        is opened unto me, and there are many adversaries” (1
        Corinthians 16:9). Why isn’t the door to victory easy?
        Because if it were easy, then you would become weak in
        your effort to work out your faith in God. God places
        obstacles in your path to give you strength. Wheaties
        is not the breakfast of champions, giants are. God
        wants you to feed upon your difficulties and depend
        upon Him to make you a conqueror.

        ACTION POINT:
        What does it take to strengthen your body? What does
        it take to build your intellect? What does it take to
        grow love in relationships? Work. Read Philippians
        2:12-13 and apply it to your life today.


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      • troy galloway
        Thank you for sharing this. I am new to this group but not to the practice. You are right on and would love to hear more jodyrrr wrote:
        Message 3 of 10 , Jul 6 6:46 AM
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          Thank you for sharing this. I am new to this group but not to the practice. You are right on and would love to hear more

          jodyrrr <jodyrrr@...> wrote:
          --- In meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "surya" <dattapr2000@ ...> wrote:

          [snip]

          > Meditation is continuous thinking of such knowledge and other interpretations are
          > either useless or of little use.

          What is of little use are your grandiose stylings designed to aggrandize your deluded sense
          of self as an incarnation of God.

          Meditation is an effort to engender clarity. Musing about your divinity brings clarity the
          way the winter runoff clarifies the Mississippi River.



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        • jodyrrr
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          Message 4 of 10 , Jul 6 9:31 AM
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            --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, troy galloway <trgallo12000@...>
            wrote:
            >
            > Thank you for sharing this. I am new to this group but not to the practice. You are
            > right on and would love to hear more

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          • jodyrrr
            ... Er... That s just one of the billions of words of God. They fall from each being s lips everyday. The Bible is no more God s word than the front page of
            Message 5 of 10 , Jul 6 9:33 AM
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              --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, daniel peter <princedanirock@...>
              wrote:
              >
              >
              >
              > Dear ,
              > It's better for you to meditate upon this word of
              > God.

              Er... That's just one of the billions of words of God. They fall from
              each being's lips everyday. The Bible is no more God's word than
              the front page of the New York Times or the centerfold text in Playboy.

              > BIBLE MEDITATION:
              > "Only rebel not ye against the LORD, neither fear ye
              > the people of the land; for they are bread for us:
              > their defense is departed from them, and the LORD is
              > with us: fear them not." Numbers 14:9
              >
              > DEVOTIONAL THOUGHT:
              > Joshua and Caleb faced formidable foes in the promised
              > land, and yet what was their response to their
              > enemies? "They are bread for us" (Numbers 14:9). What
              > is bread? It is the staff of life. What happens when
              > you eat bread? You are strengthened by it and you grow
              > by it. Paul even said, "For a great door and effectual
              > is opened unto me, and there are many adversaries" (1
              > Corinthians 16:9). Why isn't the door to victory easy?
              > Because if it were easy, then you would become weak in
              > your effort to work out your faith in God. God places
              > obstacles in your path to give you strength. Wheaties
              > is not the breakfast of champions, giants are. God
              > wants you to feed upon your difficulties and depend
              > upon Him to make you a conqueror.
              >
              > ACTION POINT:
              > What does it take to strengthen your body? What does
              > it take to build your intellect? What does it take to
              > grow love in relationships? Work. Read Philippians
              > 2:12-13 and apply it to your life today.
              >
              >
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            • prakki surya
              Authority in Spiritual Concepts: Whenever you make any decision, you have to follow three authorities: 1) Shruti i.e., Veda, Bible, Gita; 2) Yukti i.e., logic;
              Message 6 of 10 , Jul 7 8:17 AM
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                Authority in Spiritual Concepts:

                Whenever you make any decision, you have to follow three authorities: 1) Shruti i.e., Veda, Bible, Gita; 2) Yukti i.e., logic; 3) Anubhava i.e., experience.
                 
                Ex:1) To learn philosophy, the world gives the real picture. Books may contain faulty knowledge, but the world contains only the truth. To know whether the concept in the book is right or not you must refer to the world. Any concept in the scripture should be discussed with logic and finally approved only through its experience in the world. So the purest love can be seen in the world. Suppose somebody loves and serves you without aspiring anything in return and his love is pure by all your tests, you imagine how much you are pleased! You will do anything for him. It applies to God also. If you serve Him without aspiring anything in return from Him and if your pure love passes all His severe tests, He will do anything for your sake. Love is proved only through service. Mere words and feelings are of no use. Service can be associated with words and feelings, like a plate of rice is associated with curry and pickles.
                 
                2) In the case of idol and image worship, the Shruti says ‘Natasya Pratima Asti’ (Lord will not enter statues). The Yukti is that one cannot make any inert object alive by any technique. A dead body cannot get life by the chanting of the Vedic hymn which is recited in the Prana Pratishta (life initiation). If you say that life has entered the statue by such Prana Pratishta, why can’t you make the dead body alive by the same? The experience is that by any technique, we do not experience life in any inert object including a dead body. Therefore if you say that the life enters the statue, it cannot be accepted. Then what is the meaning of this Prana pratishta? Since you are rigid in not accepting the human form of God due to your egoism and jealousy there is no other way than to teach you like this. Thus, Prana Pratishta is teaching you that the human form with life alone should be worshipped by the sixteen modes.
                 
                3) An employee does service for the whole month and he does not have to put in a formal request to the government to give his monthly salary. The salary is put into his account automatically. He does not beg for his salary by singing songs and weeping. Similarly, Hanuman participated in the service of Lord Rama in human form and got the fruit of His service, which was the post of the future creator of the Universe. He did not sing bhajans, chant hymns, meditate or shed tears etc., for the fruit. Therefore what is the use of these things without the service? An elephant is fed with sugar cane in a dignified way. The elephant does a lot of work in carrying big logs etc. A dog does not do any service and it begs for food by wagging its tail, by crying, by falling at the feet of people but it is not given food or at the most it is given leftovers. Therefore the knowledge and devotion should lead to service, which are like the degrees acquired by you. Merely for your degree, no salary will be given. With the help of the degree you have to get a job and do service for which alone you can get the salary. The degrees will only help you to get a job but they cannot give you the salary directly. With the help of knowledge you can recognize the human incarnation. With the help of devotion you will come near Him and become dear to Him so that you can participate in His service. You get the fruit for your service and not for your knowledge and devotion.
                 
                Conclusion: It is always great to give God that which you cannot give to anybody. What is the greatness in giving that which you can give to anyone? People easily give words and mind and there is no greatness in sacrificing such things. It is very difficult to sacrifice the fruit of work (money). Therefore the greatness lies in sacrificing work or the fruit of work. The Gita emphasized on Karma Phala Tyaga in view of the nearing Kali Yuga. Soon after the Mahabharata war, Kali entered. Since the Lord knows that in the Kali age, money, which is the fruit of the work, is going to be the topmost item, He emphasized the sacrifice of money (Karma Phala Tyaga) everywhere in the Gita.
                 
                At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami
                surya


                troy galloway <trgallo12000@...> wrote:
                Thank you for sharing this. I am new to this group but not to the practice. You are right on and would love to hear more

                jodyrrr <jodyrrr@...> wrote:
                --- In meditationsocietyof america@yahoogro ups.com, "surya" <dattapr2000@ ...> wrote:
                > Meditation is continuous thinking of such knowledge and other interpretations are  either useless or of little use.
                What is of little use are your grandiose stylings designed to aggrandize your deluded sense of self as an incarnation of God.
                Meditation is an effort to engender clarity. Musing about your divinity brings clarity the way the winter runoff clarifies the Mississippi River.


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              • jodyrrr
                Swami Datta is the authority on Spiritual Conceits, his own.
                Message 7 of 10 , Jul 7 10:16 AM
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                  Swami Datta is the authority on Spiritual Conceits, his own.
                • trgallo12000
                  To your thoughts they are indeed insightful. As to your conclusion to this you state that it is always great to give to God that which we can not give to
                  Message 8 of 10 , Jul 8 2:39 PM
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                    To your thoughts they are indeed insightful. As to your conclusion
                    to this you state that it is always great to give to God that which
                    we can not give to others, and I ask how can this be? The bible
                    states that to give is to give to God. This would make sense being
                    we all our of God and we all our Gods. So the greatest gift is to
                    give to all beings and to all life and open up and allow ourselfs
                    to recive that which is God





                    --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, prakki surya
                    <dattapr2000@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Authority in Spiritual Concepts:
                    > Whenever you make any decision, you have to follow three
                    authorities: 1) Shruti i.e., Veda, Bible, Gita; 2) Yukti i.e.,
                    logic; 3) Anubhava i.e., experience.
                    >
                    > Ex:1) To learn philosophy, the world gives the real picture.
                    Books may contain faulty knowledge, but the world contains only the
                    truth. To know whether the concept in the book is right or not you
                    must refer to the world. Any concept in the scripture should be
                    discussed with logic and finally approved only through its
                    experience in the world. So the purest love can be seen in the
                    world. Suppose somebody loves and serves you without aspiring
                    anything in return and his love is pure by all your tests, you
                    imagine how much you are pleased! You will do anything for him. It
                    applies to God also. If you serve Him without aspiring anything in
                    return from Him and if your pure love passes all His severe tests,
                    He will do anything for your sake. Love is proved only through
                    service. Mere words and feelings are of no use. Service can be
                    associated with words and feelings, like a plate of rice is
                    associated with curry and pickles.
                    >
                    > 2) In the case of idol and image worship, the Shruti
                    says `Natasya Pratima Asti' (Lord will not enter statues). The Yukti
                    is that one cannot make any inert object alive by any technique. A
                    dead body cannot get life by the chanting of the Vedic hymn which is
                    recited in the Prana Pratishta (life initiation). If you say that
                    life has entered the statue by such Prana Pratishta, why can't you
                    make the dead body alive by the same? The experience is that by any
                    technique, we do not experience life in any inert object including a
                    dead body. Therefore if you say that the life enters the statue, it
                    cannot be accepted. Then what is the meaning of this Prana
                    pratishta? Since you are rigid in not accepting the human form of
                    God due to your egoism and jealousy there is no other way than to
                    teach you like this. Thus, Prana Pratishta is teaching you that the
                    human form with life alone should be worshipped by the sixteen
                    modes.
                    >
                    > 3) An employee does service for the whole month and he does not
                    have to put in a formal request to the government to give his
                    monthly salary. The salary is put into his account automatically. He
                    does not beg for his salary by singing songs and weeping. Similarly,
                    Hanuman participated in the service of Lord Rama in human form and
                    got the fruit of His service, which was the post of the future
                    creator of the Universe. He did not sing bhajans, chant hymns,
                    meditate or shed tears etc., for the fruit. Therefore what is the
                    use of these things without the service? An elephant is fed with
                    sugar cane in a dignified way. The elephant does a lot of work in
                    carrying big logs etc. A dog does not do any service and it begs for
                    food by wagging its tail, by crying, by falling at the feet of
                    people but it is not given food or at the most it is given
                    leftovers. Therefore the knowledge and devotion should lead to
                    service, which are like the degrees acquired by you. Merely for your
                    degree,
                    > no salary will be given. With the help of the degree you have to
                    get a job and do service for which alone you can get the salary. The
                    degrees will only help you to get a job but they cannot give you the
                    salary directly. With the help of knowledge you can recognize the
                    human incarnation. With the help of devotion you will come near Him
                    and become dear to Him so that you can participate in His service.
                    You get the fruit for your service and not for your knowledge and
                    devotion.
                    >
                    > Conclusion: It is always great to give God that which you cannot
                    give to anybody. What is the greatness in giving that which you can
                    give to anyone? People easily give words and mind and there is no
                    greatness in sacrificing such things. It is very difficult to
                    sacrifice the fruit of work (money). Therefore the greatness lies in
                    sacrificing work or the fruit of work. The Gita emphasized on Karma
                    Phala Tyaga in view of the nearing Kali Yuga. Soon after the
                    Mahabharata war, Kali entered. Since the Lord knows that in the Kali
                    age, money, which is the fruit of the work, is going to be the
                    topmost item, He emphasized the sacrifice of money (Karma Phala
                    Tyaga) everywhere in the Gita.
                    >
                    > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami
                    > surya
                    > http://www.universal-spirituality.org
                    >
                    >
                    > troy galloway <trgallo12000@...> wrote: Thank you for
                    sharing this. I am new to this group but not to the practice. You
                    are right on and would love to hear more
                    >
                    > jodyrrr <jodyrrr@...> wrote: --- In
                    meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "surya" <dattapr2000@>
                    wrote:
                    > > Meditation is continuous thinking of such knowledge and other
                    interpretations are either useless or of little use.
                    > What is of little use are your grandiose stylings designed to
                    aggrandize your deluded sense of self as an incarnation of God.
                    > Meditation is an effort to engender clarity. Musing about your
                    divinity brings clarity the way the winter runoff clarifies the
                    Mississippi River.
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
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