- ... and ... nature ... some ... you ... ignore/destroy ... a ... nature ... concept/path ... will ... and ... Higher ... the ... the ... creatures of ... veryMessage 1 of 4 , Mar 28 7:24 AMView Source--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Jeroen"
> Dear all,
> I think this enlightenment and spirituality-business is dangerous
> destructive. It leads us away from and destroys what is of vitalnature
> importance to ourselves, that is, nature.
> What I mean is that anything we experience, is an experience of
> (or the cosmos). In short, all there is, is nature. Nature is notsome
> external thing. As you are never separate from nature, nature andyou
> are one: it is impossible to say where a human 'ends' andignore/destroy
> nature/cosmos 'begins'. To ignore/destroy nature is to
> humans, to straightjacket nature is to straightjacket yourself, anda
> vice versa. Nature is one.
> Nature is a (comm)unity and everything that occurs in nature (f.e.
> human being) is a form of that (comm)unity.nature
> So it's not Shiva, Shakti, (para)Brahma(n), God, Allah, Buddha-
> or whatever other spiritual, mystical, or transcendentalconcept/path
> that was, is or will be making your day: it all is, has been andwill
> be nature. Hence there is no high and mighty plain of Detachment,and
> Happiness and Bliss where the Enlightened dwell: every one of us is
> here, in/with nature, as nature. And I assure you, we all suffer
> tremendously from the wars that are being waged on nature.
> So instead of searching for ((y)our) Happiness and ((y)our)
> Enlightenment, we/you should better start minding and fighting for
> what we are and what we were from the very beginning, viz. nature
> her (comm)unity.Higher
> Notice that, I, that is, nature, am being destroyed while you are
> searching for Enlightenment. In other words, the search for a
> State of Being (Enlightenment, Liberation, Extinction) is one ofthe
> terrors of the contemporary world. We do not need Enlightenment, wethe
> need nature, and we need it now!
> Other terrors that haunt our world are the terrorism of the Higher
> Being (cfr. Abrahamic God), the terrorism of the Higher
> Community/Leader(s) (cfr. states, kingdoms), and the terrorism of
> Higher Reason (cfr. Western Enlightened Reason).creatures of
> The terrorism of the Higher Being (God) turns humans into
> this Being on a mission to spread His Message and Love. This is avery
> tough terrorism as it is purely rooted in the belief in this Being,Reason)
> whose existence can not be proven or disproven.
> The terrorism of the Higher Reason (cfr. Western Enlightened
> turns humans into civilised, developed people who (are made to)to)
> believe in the High/Developed value of democratic states, science,
> industry,.. with all the political, economic, industrial,
> (neo)colonial, social, cultural, ecological consequences thereof.
> The terrorism of the Higher Community/Leader(s) (states, kingdoms)
> turns people into subjects, civilians or followers who (are made
> believe that this Higher Community/Leader(s) is more important thanhuman
> their own natural (comm)unity.
> The terrorism of the Higher State of Being (Enlightenment) turns
> beings into seekers of spirituality/enlightenment who (are made to)tear
> believe that (people with) this Higher State of Being is(are) more
> important/valuable than (people with) other states of being.
> All these searches for Higher Goals terrorise/straightjacket human
> beings. Being ignorant that nature is one, these straightjackets
> nature into pieces (creatures, civilised/developed people, ..) andthe
> destroy the (comm)unity of nature.
> Let's face it: we are not really creatures, civilised/developed
> people, labour-units, subjects, civilians, followers or
> spiritual/enlightenment seekers. Let's stop terrorising and
> straightjacketing ourselves: we are nature!!
> The goal of nature is not to be holy/divine, civilised, obedient or
> enlightened, but to live and enjoy her/our (comm)unity/ies.
> Therefore, we must (learn to) support, conserve and live in/as/with
> our natural (comm)unity/ies with love and wisdom, and help stopping
> the denial, straightjacketing and destruction of nature/ourself in
> name of some Higher Goal.electromagnetic,
> The only energy/power humans need is not nuclear or
> but energy/power that is naturally available. The fusion humansneed
> is not a nuclear fusion, but a fusion of natural/human energies.Yes.
> I wish us the best of luck!
Buddhism is firmly rooted in humanity/nature. Albert Einstein said
that if there is a religion of the future it would be a cosmic
religion - it would be Buddhism. Meditation (essential to Buddhism)
isn't a search for some lofty Enlightenment - it's getting in touch
with reality, letting go of all illusion, it's being awake & aware
that everything is one.
May all sentient beings be released from suffering.
- ... dangerous and destructive. It leads us away from and destroys what is of vital importance to ourselves, that is, nature. ... Large snip ... Yo Sri Jeroen,Message 2 of 4 , Mar 28 9:38 AMView Source"Jeroen" <sphurna@...> wrote:
>dangerous and destructive. It leads us away from and
> Dear all,
> I think this enlightenment and spirituality-business is
destroys what is of vital importance to ourselves,
that is, nature.
> I wish us the best of luck!Yo Sri Jeroen,
I think that everything "leads us away from and destroys
what is of vital importance to ourselves, that is, nature"
except "this enlightenment and spirituality-business".
Peace and blessings,
- ... Great response, Bob.Message 3 of 4 , Mar 28 2:41 PMView Source--- In email@example.com, medit8ionsociety
>Great response, Bob.
> "Jeroen" <sphurna@> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I think this enlightenment and spirituality-business is
> dangerous and destructive. It leads us away from and
> destroys what is of vital importance to ourselves,
> that is, nature.
> Large snip
> > I wish us the best of luck!
> > Greetings,
> > Jeroen
> Yo Sri Jeroen,
> I think that everything "leads us away from and destroys
> what is of vital importance to ourselves, that is, nature"
> except "this enlightenment and spirituality-business".
> Peace and blessings,