[Meditation Society of America] Another look at Re: Realisation ...not Salvation
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Reynold Wingate
> Jodyji, please keep posting your views. I have not
> missed anything you wrote so far. It helps people like
> me from being swept away by a deluge of writings, no
> matter how well intentioned they are.
I'll keep posting as long as Bobji lets me.
I can't seem to escape my compulsion to tell
these grandiose egoists anything else, anyway.
> --- jodyrrr <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
> --- In email@example.com,
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > "The delusion that you are God is more
> > > > evolved than the delusion that you are not God."
> > > > Kir Li Molari
> > Jody wrote:
> > > The delusion that one is the incarnation of
> > > God is like the delusion that one is Jesus Christ.
> > >
> > > Neither claim would be made by a spiritually
> > > person, in my opinion.
> > In answer to an email about "Why is Jody after this
> > Datta? And why does he care at all?"
> > IMHO, at least semi-seriously, humility and
> > are the foremost characteristics one would see in a
> > spiritualized person, and any claim of Divinity is
> > over the top of the humility barrel that it makes
> > it easy to be suspect of the claimant. I feel that
> > Jodyji shows his compassion in action by pointing
> > those who he feels may be a wrong turn in seekers
> > quest for Truth. And it is up to the readers to take
> > his advise or not. Personally, I appreciate the
> > and am sure it is all well intended.
> > Peace and blessings,
> > Bob
> Thanks, Bob. But it's not really about Datta's
> qualifications as a guru. It's about the idea that
> he is an incarnation of God more than anyone else.
> Datta represents all that is wrong with spiritual
> culture: the idea that spiritual understanding
> makes you anything more than a human being who knows
> who they are. There is no magic, miracles, special
> visions or visitations involved. *Any* of these are
> objects of the senses.
> **Higher than the senses are the objects of the sense.
> **Higher than the objects of sense is the mind;
> **And higher than the mind is the intellect.
> **Higher than the intellect is the Great Self.
> --Katha Upanishad
> Everything Datta is talking about are objects
> of the sense. His supposed status as that who
> incarnated as Jesus, Buddha, etc, and his supposed
> access to the infinite power of God, which he
> refuses to demonstrate, of course.
> Datta's claims about himself are perfectly
> preposterous. That's why I care about what
> he says here, and I want him and everyone
> else to know it, until you ask me to cease
> and desist that is.
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