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[Meditation Society of America] Another look at Re: Realisation ...not Salvation

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  • jodyrrr
    ... Thanks, Rey. I ll keep posting as long as Bobji lets me. I can t seem to escape my compulsion to tell these grandiose egoists anything else, anyway.
    Message 1 of 14 , Jan 1, 2006
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      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Reynold Wingate
      <reystar99@y...> wrote:
      >
      > Jodyji, please keep posting your views. I have not
      > missed anything you wrote so far. It helps people like
      > me from being swept away by a deluge of writings, no
      > matter how well intentioned they are.
      >
      > Rey

      Thanks, Rey.

      I'll keep posting as long as Bobji lets me.
      I can't seem to escape my compulsion to tell
      these grandiose egoists anything else, anyway.

      --jody.

      > --- jodyrrr <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
      >
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      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
      > medit8ionsociety
      > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
      > >
      > > > > "The delusion that you are God is more
      > spiritually
      > > > > evolved than the delusion that you are not God."
      > > > > Kir Li Molari
      > >
      > > Jody wrote:
      > > > The delusion that one is the incarnation of
      > > > God is like the delusion that one is Jesus Christ.
      > > >
      > > > Neither claim would be made by a spiritually
      > evolved
      > > > person, in my opinion.
      > >
      > > In answer to an email about "Why is Jody after this
      > > Datta? And why does he care at all?"
      > >
      > > IMHO, at least semi-seriously, humility and
      > compassion
      > > are the foremost characteristics one would see in a
      > > spiritualized person, and any claim of Divinity is
      > so
      > > over the top of the humility barrel that it makes
      > > it easy to be suspect of the claimant. I feel that
      > > Jodyji shows his compassion in action by pointing
      > out
      > > those who he feels may be a wrong turn in seekers
      > > quest for Truth. And it is up to the readers to take
      > > his advise or not. Personally, I appreciate the
      > effort
      > > and am sure it is all well intended.
      > > Peace and blessings,
      > > Bob
      >
      > Thanks, Bob. But it's not really about Datta's
      > qualifications as a guru. It's about the idea that
      > he is an incarnation of God more than anyone else.
      >
      > Datta represents all that is wrong with spiritual
      > culture: the idea that spiritual understanding
      > makes you anything more than a human being who knows
      > who they are. There is no magic, miracles, special
      > visions or visitations involved. *Any* of these are
      > objects of the senses.
      >
      > **Higher than the senses are the objects of the sense.
      > **Higher than the objects of sense is the mind;
      > **And higher than the mind is the intellect.
      > **Higher than the intellect is the Great Self.
      > --Katha Upanishad
      >
      > Everything Datta is talking about are objects
      > of the sense. His supposed status as that who
      > incarnated as Jesus, Buddha, etc, and his supposed
      > access to the infinite power of God, which he
      > refuses to demonstrate, of course.
      >
      > Datta's claims about himself are perfectly
      > preposterous. That's why I care about what
      > he says here, and I want him and everyone
      > else to know it, until you ask me to cease
      > and desist that is.
      >
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